Sukmawati Sukarnoputri, daughter of former Indonesia president, converts to Hinduism from Islam

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We are born free of tyranny under the unseen God. God judges humans, including the wannabe-God tyrant who seeks to deprive people of their God given rights.

Who am I to deprieve you with your God given rights ? I just don't want any such rights and I don't want to be in illusion of seperation too..

 

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Who am I to deprieve you with your God given rights ? I just don't want any such rights and I don't want to be in illusion of seperation too..

Political ideologies seek to deprive people's rights. It can be fascism, communism, or nationalism. It escapes you that I am telling you that you are free to disbelieve with clear backing from the Book of God, and it is actually you arguing against and confronting belief.

 

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The visible universe is 95 billion light years across and much bigger beyond. We are not the creator of the universe and life. This is a factual statement. True religion is about the truth.

You forgot to add it's expanding too ...Your creator has not yet completed his creation ..As far as your world is concerned its just appears in your consciousness and merges back to same .

 

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You forgot to add it's expanding too ...Your creator has not yet completed his creation ..As far as your world is concerned its just appears in your consciousness and merges back to same .

You ended it with mumbo-jumbo, loosey-goosey talk.

When I mentioned much bigger beyond the visible, I meant the universe is expanding, and it is stretching way faster than the speed of light beyond the visible.
67-3 [And] who created seven heavens in layers. You do not see in the creation of the Most Merciful any inconsistency. So return your vision [to the sky]; do you see any breaks?
67-4 Then return your vision twice again. [Your] vision will return to you humbled while it is fatigued.

 

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You ended it with mumbo-jumbo, loosey-goosey talk.

When I mentioned much bigger beyond the visible, I meant the universe is expanding, and it is stretching way faster than the speed of light beyond the visible.
67-3 [And] who created seven heavens in layers. You do not see in the creation of the Most Merciful any inconsistency. So return your vision [to the sky]; do you see any breaks?
67-4 Then return your vision twice again. [Your] vision will return to you humbled while it is fatigued.

Ya I intentionally ended it like that ..We often ignore the window through which we observe this vast universe ..
Isn't it 8 days it took to complete creation ?
Are you going against religious scholars by showing unrelated verses ?

 

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Ya I intentionally ended it like that ..We often ignore the window through which we observe this vast universe ..
Isn't it 8 days it took to complete creation ?
Are you going against religious scholars by showing unrelated verses ?

Six Days. According to me, one Day in this context corresponds to 100 million years. In the Quran, the length of day is not necessarily 24 hours. It varies by context. For example, it says one day on the Day of Judgement is 50,000 years and one Day in Heaven is 1000 years. Six days are the phases or milestones in which the Earth and the Solar system were created following the ignition of the Sun 4.6 billion years ago. As far as religious scholars, there are no priests in Islam. 9-31 They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah [which is a Sin].

 

[not_two]

Political ideologies seek to deprive people's rights. It can be fascism, communism, or nationalism. It escapes you that I am telling you that you are free to disbelieve with clear backing from the Book of God, and it is actually you arguing against and confronting belief.

You forgot religion is mother of all in depriving those rights to practicing one as well as minority ..In modern society religion should be personal affair as much as possible..

 

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You forgot religion is mother of all in depriving those rights to practicing one as well as minority ..In modern society religion should be personal affair as much as possible..

42-6 And those who take as allies other than Him - Allah is [yet] Guardian over them; and you are not over them a manager.

I am posting it again. What you said sounds like an excuse. Belief is the individual's relationship to his Creator, indepedent of what others may say or do. Disbelievers can manipulate or exploit ideologies for the sake of power, wealth status. They can use anything, including religion. That is why at the heart of religion is belief which has faith accountable to God.

 

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Six Days. According to me, one Day in this context corresponds to 100 million years. In the Quran, the length of day is not necessarily 24 hours. It varies by context. For example, it says one day on the Day of Judgement is 50,000 years and one Day in Heaven is 1000 years. Six days are the phases or milestones in which the Earth and the Solar system were created following the ignition of the Sun 4.6 billion years ago. As far as religious scholars, there are no priests in Islam. 9-31 They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah [which is a Sin].

Good you are interpreting it in your own way ..That's a positive development ..You know I can ask many questions on above ..I will refrain from it as you are trying it in your own rational way ..Never try to fool yourself, a request..

 

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Good you are interpreting it in your own way ..That's a positive development ..You know I can ask many questions on above ..I will refrain from it as you are trying it in your own rational way ..Never try to fool yourself, a request..

You fooled yourself with infactual statement that the Creator and the created are the same. Did you create the universe? The sun? The solar system? The Earth? Mountains? Life?

 

[not_two]

42-6 And those who take as allies other than Him - Allah is [yet] Guardian over them; and you are not over them a manager.

I am posting it again. What you said sounds like an excuse. Belief is the individual's relationship to his Creator, indepedent of what others may say or do. Disbelievers can manipulate or exploit ideologies for the sake of power, wealth status. They can use anything, including religion. That is why at the heart of religion is belief which has faith accountable to God.

Ok ..good but make sure it's not the case from start

You fooled yourself with infactual statement that the Creator and the created are the same. Did you create the universe? The sun? The solar system? The Earth? Mountains? Life?

I have answered it ..If you don't want to go deep then it's your choice..

 

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I have answered it ..If you don't want to go deep then it's your choice..

I don't need you for the answer because truth is universal. We are creations. We did not create the universe. Somebody did.

 

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I don't need you for the answer because truth is universal. We are creations. We did not create the universe. Somebody did.

Fishes in your aquarium too are guessing like you about their aquarium world ..but we know the fact that it's man made..

 

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Fishes in your aquarium too are guessing like you about their aquarium world ..but we know the fact that it's man made..

Mumbo jumbo, loosey goosey, feel good talk. I know for a fact that humans did not create the universe. This is the reason the word for God exists across the world.

 

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Mumbo jumbo, loosey goosey, feel good talk. I know for a fact that humans did not create the universe. This is the reason the word for God exists across the world.

May be God is behind the big bang but I doubt he cares for insignificance..