Su-27, Su-37, Su-47, Su-57, the long line of superb twin engined fighters from Sukhoi design agency

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

there are other defense program is going on like Bori class submarine project, Yasin class submarine project, PAK-DA bomber project, SARMAT ICBM project, Nimtiz class aircraft carrier project, all delayed to 2025, over all Russian economy is bad in shape, and this not a proof at all, and also remember lots of civilian project is also going, so they have not funds for Su-57 production or it will be delayed when the funds will available @undertakerwwefan

Russia military hardware are in house. Russia spends money to itself. It's not like they buy anything from another country. Russia does not lose money when Russia pays Russia to build planes and all that.

That's why Canada was building its own planes and missiles and engines.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Russia military hardware are in house. Russia spends money to itself. It's not like they buy anything from another country. Russia does not lose money when Russia pays Russia to build planes and all that.

That's why Canada was building its own planes and missiles and engines.

What a crap logic you have, these project will take billions of $$$$$$ if they don't get extra hard cash (export) these project doom sooner than later @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

What a crap logic you have, these project will take billions of $$$$$$ if they don't get extra hard cash (export) these project doom sooner than later @undertakerwwefan

Russia does not have trade deficit like America does. America loses like 500 billion a year to trade deficit. On top of that, Russia sells lots of aircraft to other countries and uses the money earned to help fund aircraft production for itself.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Russia does not have trade deficit like America does. America loses like 500 billion a year to trade deficit. On top of that, Russia sells lots of aircraft to other countries and uses the money earned to help fund aircraft production for itself.

What is the Proof that russia isn't trade deficit like America is @undertakerwwefan i want a statistic figures not wording from your big liar mouth @undertakerwwefan ,yes they sell lots of defense equipments in 90s and early 2000 but their defense export getting dried up after 2010 they only 2 relatively big deals, 1 18 Su-30MKM for Malaysia and the latest deals is 4 S-400 and 24 Su-35 for china, and do research befor you post @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

What is the Proof that russia isn't trade deficit like America is @undertakerwwefan i want a statistic figures not wording from your big liar mouth @undertakerwwefan

Russia's trade surplus widened by 75.5 percent to USD 15.15 billion in May 2018 from USD 8.63 billion in the same month a year earlier, but still below market expectations of a USD 18.06 billion surplus.

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/balance-of-trade

 

[Ultima Thule]

Russia's trade surplus widened by 75.5 percent to USD 15.15 billion in May 2018 from USD 8.63 billion in the same month a year earlier, but still below market expectations of a USD 18.06 billion surplus.

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/balance-of-trade

These 15.5 billions & 8.63 billions $$$ will drain in those defense/civilian projects like a child swallow a candy at once @undertakerwwefan poor russian @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

These 15.5 billions & 8.63 billions $$$ will drain in those defense/civilian projects like a child swallow a candy at once @undertakerwwefan poor russian @undertakerwwefan

Maybe. But at least Russia don't have tens of millions of illegals like America does draining America's funding with social welfare. Oh, and Russia's military hardware are made by state agencies, not by public companies like in the US. Most of America's arms exports are drained away by foreign shareholders. All of Russia's arms exports are collected by the Russia government. BIG difference.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/how-many-illegal-immigrants-are-in-us

 

[Yaseen1]

Maybe. But at least Russia don't have tens of millions of illegals like America does draining America's funding with social welfare. Oh, and Russia's military hardware are made by state agencies, not by public companies like in the US. Most of America's arms exports are drained away by foreign shareholders. All of Russia's arms exports are collected by the Russia government. BIG difference.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/how-many-illegal-immigrants-are-in-us

social welfare increases money and country spending money for human welfare is given more money by GOD ALMIGHTY ALONE .i think spending money for human welfare is one of the main reason u.s is super power

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

social welfare increases money and country spending money for human welfare is given more money by GOD ALMIGHTY ALONE .i think spending money for human welfare is one of the main reason u.s is super power

Absolutely I agree social welfare is important. But I do not accept spending money on illegals, only on citizens.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Maybe. But at least Russia don't have tens of millions of illegals like America does draining America's funding with social welfare. Oh, and Russia's military hardware are made by state agencies, not by public companies like in the US. Most of America's arms exports are drained away by foreign shareholders. All of Russia's arms exports are collected by the Russia government. BIG difference.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/how-many-illegal-immigrants-are-in-us

That another topic but defense most of defense export money remains in USA @undertakerwwefan and how many defense/civilian big export deals is done by Russia @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

That another topic but defense most of defense export money remains in USA @undertakerwwefan and how many defense/civilian big export deals is done by Russia @undertakerwwefan

America labor cost is far higher than Russia labor cost. What's your point? How about number of units sold? How many planes have Americans sold? How many planes have Russians sold? I think Russians have sold more than Americans have, no?

 

[Ultima Thule]

America labor cost is far higher than Russia labor cost. What's your point? How about number of units sold? How many planes have Americans sold? How many planes have Russians sold? I think Russians have sold more than Americans have, no?

yes you're right on the spot there is 0 plane (fighter jet ) sold by USA in recent years but Russian sell 42 fighter jets in total in recent years (18 for maylasia, 24 for China) @undertakerwwefan

 

[khansaheeb]

Every know the history of SU-27 series of jets here on PDF, you bring nothing new on PDF @undertakerwwefan

I found it fascinating, never seen all these top Russian jets in one go before.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I found it fascinating, never seen all these top Russian jets in one go before.

if you don't see it i see those jets videos many time on youtube @khansaheeb

 

[!eon]

Su-47 is ahead of its time. It needs 90% composites to hold the swept wings. Maybe Su-47 can serve as a basis for 6th gen if there is going to be one.

Su-57 is not canceled. American propaganda.

It's explained here by the deputy prime minister.

That docu is from 2015 my dear friend from Byzantine Empire