STUPID IDEA

[Neo]

Neo, I know that, that's why I said a one time option.

Same what US does from time to time (with illegal aliens).
However, I suggested on the theme of the Canadanian immigration process, simple and easy, yet effective.

Do you see what I'm saying now?

I know what you mean Shehz. But even Canada has its limitation, atleast you have to adapt to their society and atleast learn the language, same as in most European countries.
Afghanis have not done that, to be hinest government has also failed to give them the opportunity to do so.
But these aliens came to seek shelter when the country was being invaded. Its considered safe as the (hostile) occupiers have left...they should leave now!

I also agrre with Asim here.

 

[dabong1]

When the US or Dubai, Saudi Arabia, UK, or even Qatar talks about deporting Indians/Pakistani's, how do you feel?

Honestly, we need to fill NWFP and Balauchistan with skilled labour and entrepreneurs. We need to collect tax there to make the provinces grow.

I think, all, even Kashmiris (Indian) and stranded Biharis should be given this one time option, like Canada, same principles, to apply for immigration, but limited to the 2 provinces.

No, no racism, but rather controlling population growth and unemployment.
For 3 years, untill they are naturalized, they have to contribute to one of those provinces.
After 3-4 years, once they become Pakistani's, they may relocate to any province of their choice, but untill then, they will pay taxes to those provinces, and give employment and start small busineses there.

I totally agree,some of these afganis are 3rd generation pakistani born.We need to bring them into the mainstream and not have them wasting there lifes in camps and being recruited by afghan intelligence.
People complaing about the loyalty of afgans and the the potential for them to become militants the same can also be said about european/american muslims,does that make it right for blair/bush to deport all muslims.

 

[Muradk]

There are plenty of things the afghans have done for pakistan ,like stopping the commies from invading.
A few million died afghanis died but it saved us.
The refugees own a lot of business in pakistan that if we gave them ID cards we could tax.
They have bought the price of common goods in the market place down the level that the average man can afford it.
Every buliding/road in my town in pakistan AJK was or is being built by afghan/pathaan labour.
I could go on but you get my drift.

Dabong saving us from the commies???. If I am not wrong a lot of our people went in to help them ( Civilians) not to mention Operations done by the PAK Armed Froce.
Yes there is a way to send them back but it cannot be done in a few months it will take couple of years.

 

[Neo]

Friday, May 11, 2007

Pakistan to close two refugee camps in Balochistan

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani government has announced the closure of two refugee camps in Balochistan. The Jungle Pir Alizai camp will be closed by June 15, whereas the Girdi Jungle camp will be closed by August 31.

This leaves the affected Afghan refugees with two options. They can either voluntarily move back to Afghanistan with the UNHCR’s assistance or they can relocate to the Ghazgai Minara camp, which is situated in the Loralai district of Balochistan.

However, it should be noted that the UNHCR would only offer assistance to registered Afghans, with unregistered Afghans being subjected to the law of the land.

Afghans, who wish to move back to their homeland, have been asked to contact the UNHCR’s scheduling centres in Ghousabad or Sabzal Road. They also have the option to approach the Baleli Voluntary Repatriation Centre (VRC) on the Quetta-Chaman Road. The Afghans must bring their proof of registration cards as well as two coloured family photographs. Furthermore, all those above five years of age must pass the IRIS test in order to receive UNHCR assistance in Afghanistan. The entire cost of this process is expected to be $ 100 per person.

On the contrary, those wishing to relocate to the Ghazgai Minara camp have been asked to provide their names to the district administrators and the staff of the commissioner for afghan refugees. A copy of the list of will then be sent to the UNHCR, who will be responsible to provide basic necessities to the refugees on their arrival to the camp. The camp itself is 345 kms away from Jungle Pir Alizai camp and 675 kms away from Girdi Jungle camp. It is currently home to 392 registered families with around 2,500 Afghans.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\05\11\story_11-5-2007_pg7_37

 

[Janbaz]

Lol Afghanis openly hate on Pakistanis, btw.

So much!

They blame us for the state Afghanistan is in. It's not just because of Taliban, they've been attacking long before that.

True when Pakistan came into being the opposed us openly and still do. Tons of them.

I think PAF has some kills against Afghan air force as well.

Yes in the 80's when Soviet was in there. We even came clost all out war in the late 1950's and 60's!

 

[HAIDER]

In every terrorist act,it ends up some afgan national living in Pak territory.....They are nationally traitors.....Even NWFP people hate them. Ruined the peace and beauty of Peshawar.

 

[Cheetah786]

dabong1;67484]There are plenty of things the afghans have done for Pakistan ,like stopping the commies from invading.

lol afghans stop the communist from coming to Pakistan.last i checked it was afghans that invited the Russians to Afghanistan.

A few million died Afghanis died but it saved us.

Again they weren't fighting for Pakistan.they were fighting for there own country.please stop with this nonsense of creating storied to make afghans look like hero's.

The refugees own a lot of business in Pakistan that if we gave them ID cards we could tax

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yeah thats a good one.most use to pay taxes in Afghanistan.wait they didn't.
how bout look at it this way.
they smuggle goods into Pakistan costing the CBR billions in lost revenue.
costing Pakistani jobs.
costing Pakistani manufacture in lost production.
bringing drugs into Pakistan.
guns into Pakistan.

They have bought the price of common goods in the market place down the level that the average man can afford it.

are u kidding me.Thats called smuggling.

Every building/road in my town in Pakistan AJK was or is being built by afghan/pathaan labor.

so what you are saying is these people have taken away jobs from Pakistanis.and i should get your drift as you are OK with that.so what we suppose to do with Pakistanis that cant get jobs.
do u get my drift.or should i go on.
what about those people doing heroin.what we suppose to do with them.
please stop making up stories.

 

[dabong1]

lol afghans stop the communist from coming to Pakistan.last i checked it was afghans that invited the Russians to Afghanistan..:.

Last i checked the mujahdeen did not invite the russians but the anti pakistani afghan government did.
I think you forget to mention we armed and trained the afghanis...why if it had nothing to do with us.


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they weren't fighting for Pakistan.they were fighting for there own country.please stop with this nonsense of creating storied to make afghans look like hero's.

The threat does not exist anymore thats why your so smug.If the soviet union was still about am sure you would be the first onto a battlefield...you hero.


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yeah thats a good one.most use to pay taxes in Afghanistan.wait they didn't.
how bout look at it this way.
they smuggle goods into Pakistan costing the CBR billions in lost revenue.
costing Pakistani jobs.
costing Pakistani manufacture in lost production.
bringing drugs into Pakistan.
guns into Pakistan..

What a stupid argument.Blame the govt for not guarding the border.
The drugs came about with pakistani help to finance the war.
Go google BCCI gokal CIA afghan heroin and tell me what you think about pakistans involvment.




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so what you are saying is these people have taken away jobs from Pakistanis.and i should get your drift as you are OK with that.so what we suppose to do with Pakistanis that cant get jobs.
do u get my drift.or should i go on.
what about those people doing heroin.what we suppose to do with them.
please stop making up stories.

Learn some history first about the afghan war and then contribute something postive rather then the same old crap you hear from anti afghans......you get my drift

 

[Cheetah786]

dabong1;69409]Last i checked the mujahdeen did not invite the russians but the anti pakistani afghan government did.
I think you forget to mention we armed and trained the afghanis...why if it had nothing to do with us.

I believe i haven't forgotten any thing.but you lack the brains and the knowledge to argue.
YOU might wanna pick up a book or 2 if u can read.not written by Taliban(that would be a miracle since they don't believe in education).
let me help you in that.uncle SAM armed them.uncle SAM and Middle eastern countries provided the funds for them.

The threat does not exist anymore thats why your so smug.If the soviet union was still about am sure you would be the first onto a battlefield...you hero.

SO i guess u no me personally that u can make that judgement.
the ones who bark dont bite.
what have you done for pakistan share with us all.

What a stupid argument.Blame the govt for not guarding the border.
The drugs came about with pakistani help to finance the war.
Go google BCCI gokal CIA afghan heroin and tell me what you think about pakistans involvment.

So government of Pakistan and USA sold drugs to finance the war in Afghanistan.
yet long after the russians are gone.you can still buy drugs and weapons from a friendly afghans near you.

Learn some history first about the afghan war and then contribute something postive rather then the same old crap you hear from anti afghans......you get my drift

Iam convinced.
Banging my head against the wall. i am the only one thats going to get hurt.


if you are so convince that bunch of rag tag afghans beat the Russians let me ask all pro talliban a simple question.

if the Russians were to attack Afghanistan now.and uncle SAM isn't providing jack all.how long would it take Russians to win.
or as most think so called Mullahs think in pakistan.do you honestly think if the americans were to really start a war in afghanistan bunch of mullahs will have even a chance. LET me tell ya in simple reality NO

 

[dabong1]

I believe i haven't forgotten any thing.but you lack the brains and the knowledge to argue.
YOU might wanna pick up a book or 2 if u can read.not written by Taliban(that would be a miracle since they don't believe in education).
let me help you in that.uncle SAM armed them.uncle SAM and Middle eastern countries provided the funds for them.

You must be the only genius with an IQ of 60.
You know nothing of the taliban expect for what you have read the press.
The education point is strange if you consider the leadership of the taliban are all graduates of madrassas and where against mixed education and not as reported against education.
Yes you are correct that the american sent the arms and the ME funded the war but pakistan did all the work with the afghans.The arms and money did not drop from the sky onto afghan land it all went through pakistan..

SO i guess u no me personally that u can make that judgement.
the ones who bark dont bite.
what have you done for pakistan share with us all..

I would love to share with you what i have done for pakistan in my own little way but its a bit hard for me to prove it to you.

So government of Pakistan and USA sold drugs to finance the war in Afghanistan.
yet long after the russians are gone.you can still buy drugs and weapons from a friendly afghans near you...

Taliban government was instrumental in 2000-2001 in implementing a successful drug eradication program, with the support and collaboration of the UN.

Implemented in 2000-2001, the Taliban's drug eradication program led to a 94 percent decline in opium cultivation. In 2001, according to UN figures, opium production had fallen to 185 tons. Immediately following the October 2001 US led invasion, production increased dramatically, regaining its historical levels.

if you are so convince that bunch of rag tag afghans beat the Russians let me ask all pro talliban a simple question.
if the Russians were to attack Afghanistan now.and uncle SAM isn't providing jack all.how long would it take Russians to win.
or as most think so called Mullahs think in pakistan.do you honestly think if the americans were to really start a war in afghanistan bunch of mullahs will have even a chance. LET me tell ya in simple reality NO

I don't know if its failed your attention but the taliban are already kicking *** under the circumstances you have mentioned above.

 

[Cheetah786]

dabong1;69549]You must be the only genius with an IQ of 60.
You know nothing of the taliban expect for what you have read the press.
The education point is strange if you consider the leadership of the taliban are all graduates of madrassas and where against mixed education and not as reported against education.
Yes you are correct that the american sent the arms and the ME funded the war but pakistan did all the work with the afghans.The arms and money did not drop from the sky onto afghan land it all went through pakistan..

if you consider IQ 60 to be a genius.i suggest don't waist your time going to school learn a trade.wait at that IQ that would be hard 2 well you can always join Afghan army.
how silly of me not to recognize Madrassahs as educational institution.(i also herd Yale is considering hiring Madrassah graduates as professor of science and space.Harvard university is also considering giving all the Madrassahs graduates admissions).
Pakistan did a lot for afghans no doubt but in the end all we got from them was back stabbing.i belive afghans days in pakistan are numbered or shell we say done more like it.

I would love to share with you what i have done for pakistan in my own little way but its a bit hard for me to prove it to you.

Iam not intrested in knowing what you have done.i can pretty much get that from your posts.

Taliban government was instrumental in 2000-2001 in implementing a successful drug eradication program, with the support and collaboration of the UN

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Yes they also replaced those farmers income with ohhh nothing.

Implemented in 2000-2001, the Taliban's drug eradication program led to a 94 percent decline in opium cultivation. In 2001, according to UN figures, opium production had fallen to 185 tons. Immediately following the October 2001 US led invasion, production increased dramatically, regaining its historical levels

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what did they do to create jobs for locals.

I don't know if its failed your attention but the taliban are already kicking *** under the circumstances you have mentioned above

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suicide bombing isn't considered winning.be glade Americans are not Russians and are being civilized if they were to use there force. winning i doubt you will not find person who will name himself tali.
Taliban and likes them have given a Bad name to my religion.And thats nothing to be proud of.

 

[dabong1]

Cheetah786 "if you consider IQ 60 to be a genius.i suggest don't waist your time going to school"

I don't know what makes you so stupid but it really works.

how silly of me not to recognize Madrassahs as educational institution.(i also herd Yale is considering hiring Madrassah graduates as professor of science and space.Harvard university is also considering giving all the Madrassahs graduates admissions)..

I don't think i mentioned anything about the taliban becoming science teachers at yale/harvard.
You where stating that they where against education and i was reminding you that they can all read and write.

Pakistan did a lot for afghans no doubt but in the end all we got from them was back stabbing..

No what we got what was a stable pro paskistani govt on our western border when the taliban was in charge.
Now that karzai in power its all anti pakistani stuff coming from the afghans.
So tell me who do you prefer.... karzai or the taliban.

Yes they also replaced those farmers income with ohhh....nothing
what did they do to create jobs for locals....

"In 2001, according to UN figures, opium production had fallen to 185 tons. Immediately following the October 2001 US led invasion, production increased dramatically, regaining its historical levels"

Strange logic you go by.The taliban bring opium down to 185 tons in 2001 but are invaded in the same year.
Explain to me how you can judge them over a period of months on the issue of replacing the farmers crop or creating jobs.
Going of the track record of the taliban they are the best thing for afganistan.The got control of the law and order problem as soon as they took power.
The got rid of herion.
If they had been given time say a 10 year period then we could have judged the job creation record.

suicide bombing isn't considered winning..

Who said it was?
Bombing from the sky is also not considered winning.

be glade Americans are not Russians and are being civilized .

Abu Ghraib Bagram Guantanamo

Taliban and likes them have given a Bad name to my religion.And thats nothing to be proud of.

Just for one moment think how the media had pakistan as the bogey man before sep 11th and how they spun it round .
The media can make the good look bad or the other way round.