Strong under-current against India in Kashmir, warns IPS officer

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Strong under-current against India in Kashmir, warns IPS officer

Senior IPS officer NC Asthana of CRPF was on Tuesday at the centre of a controversy over his remarks that there was a ‘strong under-current against India’ in Kashmir, prompting the home ministry to say that action would be taken, if required.

Fifty two-year-old Asthana, a 1986 batch IPS officer from Kerala, has penned down a book India’s Internal Security: The Actual Concerns along with his wife Anjali Nirmal, which speaks about his tenure in the Valley during 2010 unrest.

When contacted, a spokesperson of the ministry of home affairs said, “MHA is seized of the matter. We are examining the content of the book. If required, action will be taken.”

Though security honchos in Jammu and Kashmir were taken aback by his comments, separatists have hailed his remarks as a ‘realistic’ assessment of the situation.Leading the charge is Hurriyat hawk Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who has asked New Delhi to pay heed to ‘people full of conscience’ and solve the Kashmir issue as per the wishes and aspirations of the people of the state.

“Asthana’s assessment is based on facts which New Delhi is not able to come to terms with. New Delhi can rule the people but it cannot win their hearts. New Delhi should accept the truth on Kashmir because it will not only help in solving the riddle but will directly and indirectly benefit crores of people,” said Ayaz Akbar, Hurriyat spokesman.

Independent MLA from Langate Sheikh Abdul Rasheed aka Engineer Rasheed called Asthana a brave officer who has made ‘realistic’ observations on Kashmir. “There have been several examples when retired civil and police officers have shown the bravery by speaking truth on Kashmir. He is the first serving officer who has spoken out truth and made the realistic observation on Kashmir,” he said.

The ruling National Conference (NC) however termed Asthana as ‘non-entity’ and refused to comment on his remarks. “Kashmir is a political issue and only politicians can put forth their comments. Asthana is no body and his remarks merit no comments,” Tanvir Sadiq, NC spokesman told DNA.

Nayeem Akthar, PDP chief spokesman, told DNA, “It is one of the views that have come from senior officer who has been handling situation at ground zero.”

 

[karan.1970]

another one on the Arundhatti roy band wagon.. Nothing sells a book better than a controversy

 

[Paan Singh]

then let it be.....

 

[Developereo]

India is hoping that the rising economy will lure Kashmiris towards Indian rule. However, India's economic rise is matched by the rise of extremism and jingoism, which is a recipe for disaster in the long run, not just for domestic peace, but also foreign relations.

 

[Paan Singh]

India is hoping that the rising economy will lure Kashmiris towards Indian rule. However, India's economic rise is matched by the rise of extremism and jingoism, which is a recipe for disaster in the long run, not just for domestic peace, but also foreign relations.

explain this...

 

[Developereo]

explain this...

Leaving aside published statistics on rising sectarian violence in India, the evidence can be seen on the net itself. From the rise of "Internet Hindus" (and I don't mean moderate Hindus, but the unapologetically extremist fringe) to the openly "us v/s them" view of minorities in India (code-word: "vote bank appeasement"), the trend is clear.

In terms of foreign policy, India's relations with Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have seen better days, and the media finds easy takers for its anti-Chinese rhetoric.

While the new attitude is somewhat understandable -- success and power have their perks -- it opens the door to excesses and unintended consequences.

 

[RazPaK]

Leaving aside published statistics on rising sectarian violence in India, the evidence can be seen on the net itself. From the rise of "Internet Hindus" (and I don't mean moderate Hindus, but the unapologetically extremist fringe) to the openly "us v/s them" view of minorities in India (code-word: "vote bank appeasement"), the trend is clear.

In terms of foreign policy, India's relations with Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have seen better days, and the media finds easy takers for its anti-Chinese rhetoric.

While the new attitude is somewhat understandable -- success and power have their perks -- it opens the door to excesses and unintended consequences.

Basically:

 

[Paan Singh]

Leaving aside published statistics on rising sectarian violence in India, the evidence can be seen on the net itself. From the rise of "Internet Hindus" (and I don't mean moderate Hindus, but the unapologetically extremist fringe) to the openly "us v/s them" view of minorities in India (code-word: "vote bank appeasement"), the trend is clear.

In terms of foreign policy, India's relations with Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have seen better days, and the media finds easy takers for its anti-Chinese rhetoric.

There are extremist wings of hindus too and they have been forced to become neutral now these days due to lack of support among people..For ex-Bjp who used to project itself as hindutva party is looking to change its policies for minority appeasement and they gave tickets to many muslim candidates to shed its uniform.

and congress is same but with different uniform which is hidden or which muslims dont want to see..

I mean to say that indian voter is getting intelligent day by day..and rest of job will be done by education..

so india have bright future with economic growth if it goes well...(as these days we are fked up due to scams..)

Anti pak news is more famous among indians and anti chinese news are hard to sell among indians as indians dont have negative view towards china

 

[Secur]

another one on the Arundhatti roy band wagon.. Nothing sells a book better than a controversy

Yeah , all are lying except your Govt , cm'on if past is any indication , Kashmiris do not even remotely have a desire to live with you hence the daily protest and demonstration , continued violence ( Have you ever seen protests in our administered Kashmir against Pakistani rule ? ) ...

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Leaving aside published statistics on rising sectarian violence in India, the evidence can be seen on the net itself. From the rise of "Internet Hindus" (and I don't mean moderate Hindus, but the unapologetically extremist fringe) to the openly "us v/s them" view of minorities in India (code-word: "vote bank appeasement"), the trend is clear.

In terms of foreign policy, India's relations with Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have seen better days, and the media finds easy takers for its anti-Chinese rhetoric.

While the new attitude is somewhat understandable -- success and power have their perks -- it opens the door to excesses and unintended consequences.

Leaving aside your Hindu comments (since I don't believe that Hindus regard India as their homeland), I am prone to agree with you on your remaining comments. But the reality is that you are pointing out the obvious. With economic growth comes a lull in diplomatic relations with most countries. The cause is the need for resources and economic lebenstraum. China for example faces the same dilemma. With its burgeoning economic muscle comes skirmishes over boundaries with nations which were once its diehard allies. The issue of sectarian violence domestically offcourse is an issue which India will find difficult to address. Political parties in a democracy will find any message to sell to win votes and get more of the state funding for political parties according to the size of the party. Pakistan for example is regularly a victim of that process. Hindu, Muslim, dark skinned, light skinned, tall , short , medium policy advocates are just in it for the money. The issue which must concern the planning bhabus in India is to what extent is the growth in the economy benefitting the people in the sense that actual wealth is being filtered down to grasssroots. If that is not being addressed then only will an implosion be inevitable.

 

[Secur]

“Asthana’s assessment is based on facts which New Delhi is not able to come to terms with. New Delhi can rule the people but it cannot win their hearts.

Well Said !

You cant win people's heart with money ... To say the least , improving economy in India clearly isn't luring Kashmiris like many here hoped / thought ...

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Yeah , all are lying except your Govt , cm'on if past is any indication , Kashmiris do not even remotely have a desire to live with you hence the daily protest and demonstration , continued violence ( Have you ever seen protests in our administered Kashmir against Pakistani rule ? ) ...

Nope we haven't. Then again we never saw Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan until the Yanks did a dodo on him. The point is your media isn't as free on political issues as Indian media is

 

[Secur]

Nope we haven't. Then again we never saw Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan until the Yanks did a dodo on him. The point is your media isn't as free on political issues as Indian media is

How exactly is the OBL killing by USA in Pakistan related to your assumed information censorship in the first place ? ... Can you differentiate the case between a hiding person and thousands of protesters protesting against something ? ... Lost all rationality , have you ? My media is more free than you Indians can imagine with your bias , it forced a president to quit his office , it reports all discontent and violence regardless of the outcome in the country and almost on a daily basis criticizes the Army and Govt ... And if i accept for the sake of argument that our media isn't free , then how come any protest against Pakistan rule ( which do not happen at all in the first place ) aren't reported by International media or Indian one ... A few months ago , people protested due to loadshedding in Neelum Valley , Azad Kashmir and Indian media went all gaga over it , do you think they would have missed an opportunity if those people were protesting against Pakistani rule ? ... Why there is no news of HR violation if GB or AJK ?

Figure it out and we can move on ...

 

[rockstarIN]

India is hoping that the rising economy will lure Kashmiris towards Indian rule. However, India's economic rise is matched by the rise of extremism and jingoism, which is a recipe for disaster in the long run, not just for domestic peace, but also foreign relations.

Check the rush of thousands to join army in recruitment time.


Now dont tell me that is because of poverty...if so much under current is there, nobody will come to join the evil army.

 

[KS]

then let it be.....

Exactly. Even if there is, which I doubt it is, LET IT BE.

Not everyone is satisfied in India anyway. Still the world doesn't stop spinning and India doesn't vanish into thin air.

Leaving aside published statistics on rising sectarian violence in India, the evidence can be seen on the net itself. From the rise of "Internet Hindus" (and I don't mean moderate Hindus, but the unapologetically extremist fringe) to the openly "us v/s them" view of minorities in India (code-word: "vote bank appeasement"), the trend is clear..

Etymology of the word "internet Hindu" - coined by a unapologetically pseudo-secular media woman (who would come in the category of 'liberal fascist' used so often by yours truthfully) who got cornered by an articulate speaker on why there is gross double-standards in media reporting on issues pertaining to different religions and in the laws itself and that too in the name of 'secularism'.

Now you can carry on with your 'discussion'.