Story of MBT 80- Arjun

[Skull and Bones]

Lol that should be enough evidence for you
Broadsword: Army to order more Arjun tanks
Arjun’s design is based on German Leopard 2A4. German designers Krauss Maffei were contracted for the design of Arjun MBT.

That's a blog, i said something 'Concrete'. The term 'Concrete' means 'Existing in a material or physical form; real or solid; not abstract'.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

That's a blog, i said something 'Concrete'. The term 'Concrete' means 'Existing in a material or physical form; real or solid; not abstract'.

You are proving yourself to be deluded. Ajai Shukla is a Indian defence analyst and his knowledge is 1000 times better then a source from any Indian news channel about Indian defence.
Im not gonna waste my time proving you this well established point. go do a futher research on your own.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

When ever you change the design the Release changes.

Suppose I am making Windows OS V1, in 6 months client comes and ask me to change the basic design, I will branch it a New version, Windows 1.1 or Windows 2.0...

If we see FC1 project , the project was started in 60s or 70s, When PAF gave new requirement , the Project name was changed to FC1, and machine was delivered in 5-6 years...


I think the real time frame of current version of Arjuna is 2000-2010 ...

My personal view..


.

What a stupid personal view

The name is JF17 not FC1 that PAF operates and the project was started in early 90s after abounding Sabre II project which itself was started in the 80s.

What a poor standard of assessment!!!!!!!.

 

[killerx]

still the Russian T-90 has won the war in Indian army for the front line tank this proves lot the DRDO is working on version 2 already
why waste money and time to build some tank that takes 4 decades to built when it takes year to set up the production time of the T-90

 

[ramu]

BEML aims at cashing in on defence projects

New DelhiJune 23Bharat Earth Movers Ltd, a market leader in earth moving and excavating machinery in India, is looking at cashing in on the various defence projects that are in the offing.

"The defence projects in the next four to five years that we are looking at would be anywhere between Rs 10,000 crore and Rs 12,000 crore. We have few projects in hand and are looking at developing a few more in the next couple of years," Mr V. Mohan, Director (Defence Business), BEML, told

Business Line

on the sidelines of a press conference here on Friday.
The public sector `Mini Ratna' company has recently developed an upgraded engine for the T72 tank and has sent it the concerned officials for evaluation.

"Instead of the existing 780 hp engine, we have developed a 1,000 hp engine for the tank which makes it more powerful. We have given the proposal and it is currently under evaluation. The total cost of the project (upgrading the entire fleet of tanks) could be anywhere between Rs 4,500 crore and Rs 5,000 crore spread over the next four to five years," he said.

Another project that the company has undertaken is developing around 280 wheels and track driven vehicles for the Army. According to Mr Mohan, the delivery is to commence from 2009.

Currently the defence business contributes around 30-32 per cent to the company's total turnover and the company expects the same contribution during the current fiscal also. For the financial year ended March 31, 2007 its turnover touched Rs 2,600 crore.


Topline growth

"We expect the topline to grow by around 12 per cent to around Rs 3,000 crore with a net profit between Rs 350 crore and Rs 380 crore," Mr Mohan said.

Last year, the export revenue of BEML was at Rs 110 crore and this year the company expects it to touch Rs 150 crore. The company, which makes equipment for mining and construction, is now planning to venture into coal mining and hopes to bag contracts for at least two coal blocks by the year-end.


Public issue

BEML is also tapping the capital markets with a follow-on public offer from which it expects to raise about Rs 450 crore. The proceeds will be utilised mainly to part-finance its Rs 900-crore capex programme over a period of three years. The issue, opening on June 27, would constitute 11.77 per cent of the fully diluted post-issue equity capital of the company.

(This article was published in the Business Line print edition dated June 24, 2007)

 

[ramu]

Homegrown Tank Engine Project Begins

"It is proposed to take up a project on Development of 1500 HP Engine in the XI Five Year Plan. Preliminary Design Work has already commenced."

This was the testimony provided by the Defence Ministry on behalf of DRDO to the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence for its fourteenth report, tabled in March this year and was in response to questions on the MBT Arjun programme. And, according to this piece in DefenseNews, work has begun.

The 1400 HP engine manufactured by MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH (photo ©Copyright MTU) will power the first 124 Arjun tanks, though the Combat Vehicles R&D Establishment has, according to the DefenseNews report, floated a "domestic and global expression of interest (EoI)" on October 31 for the co-development of a "1,500-horsepower Compact High Specific Power Output Diesel Engine". Officials at the laboratory had alluded to this when I was at Avadi for the Arjun MBT special report a few weeks ago, so it's finally now in motion.

This is good news. The MTU powerpack, coupled with the gunner's main sight (GMS) and tracks account for 58 per cent of the cost of a single Arjun tank. It seems reasonable to assume that MTU itself will offer to build the 1,500HP engine with DRDO, though there will of course be other, possibly more efficient, competitors.

Here's what the MoD had to say in March to the House Panel on Defence about manufacturing tank powerpacks in India: "Suitable indigenous power Packs are not available for application in MBT. Indigenous production of power pack through license production is feasible with enhanced production order for MBT Arjun considering the economy of scale. A project for developmentof indigenous power pack is planned in XI Five Year Plan."

Not much headway has been made on an indigenous GMS -- an indigenous laser range finder, day sight, thermal imager and fire control computer won't be part of the Arjun until beyond the hopeful second batch order. Here's what the MoD had to say about it: "There are few vendors in the world who can manufacture gunner’s main sight. DRDO is developing indigenous gunner’s main sight. It is likely to mature and be available beyond 124 tanks."

And finally, the tracks -- when I was at Avadi, I got the picture about why we're still importing tracks: the indigenously made rubber-coated metal pins that hold the indigenous track links together couldn't withstand the friction. The rubber would fray quickly allowing the pin's metal to come into contact with the track's metal, thereby quickly distorting it and resulting in a mobility breakdown. Since DRDO is still developing resistant rubber for those pins, we're importing the entire track assembly. Shouldn't take long though -- the CVRDE has apparently asked for this technology as well from some specialist agencies abroad. And this is what the MoD said in March: "Indigenoustrack is in advanced stage of development. It will be available for Arjun production tanks beyond 124 Nos."

Livefist: Homegrown Tank Engine Project Begins

 

[Black Widow]

Lol that should be enough evidence for you
Broadsword: Army to order more Arjun tanks
Arjun’s design is based on German Leopard 2A4. German designers Krauss Maffei were contracted for the design of Arjun MBT.

Take this word and never bring this issue again...


Indian organization buy technical assistance from many countries for its projects. We pay money for it, Its most like training project for engineers. Almost for all Indian projects we have contacted experts from various countries...

Isrea, USA, French, Russians are our major trainers... And nothing comes free. We pay for assistancew...

 

[Yogi]

@sancho @SpArK or any other Senior member

There was a member who was saying that Russia didn't proved full tot for T90s can any of u clarify....

 

[IND151]

still the Russian T-90 has won the war in Indian army for the front line tank this proves lot the DRDO is working on version 2 already
why waste money and time to build some tank that takes 4 decades to built when it takes year to set up the production time of the T-90

The IA was demanding changes inearly desgines.

OP clearly states that The Army designated the XV PPS tank as the reference tank for production.


This PPS tank was produced after 1995 which means time taken by DRDO to develop actual production vesion Mk1 and reactifying all mejor problems in it was less than 15 years.

IA inducted Arjuns in significant numbers in 2011. These Arjuns replaced T 55 tanks


http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...54CoDg&usg=AFQjCNHoEDyKbr8AbmDMrYKXpSStRNtILg

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/land-warfare/223188-story-mbt-80-arjun.html#ixzz2ESEE1vjd

 

[gslv mk3]

Lol that should be enough evidence for you
Broadsword: Army to order more Arjun tanks
Arjun’s design is based on German Leopard 2A4. German designers Krauss Maffei were contracted for the design of Arjun MBT.

^^^Usual BS...arent you the guy who started a thread saying 'SLV-3 is a copy of Scout Rocket'while they use different fuels???

 

[IND151]

Homegrown Tank Engine Project Begins

"It is proposed to take up a project on Development of 1500 HP Engine in the XI Five Year Plan. Preliminary Design Work has already commenced."

This was the testimony provided by the Defense Ministry on behalf of DRDO to the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defense for its fourteenth report, tabled in March this year and was in response to questions on the MBT Arjun programme. And, according to this piece in DefenseNews, work has begun.

The 1400 HP engine manufactured by MTU Friedrichshafen GmbH (photo ©Copyright MTU) will power the first 124 Arjun tanks, though the Combat Vehicles R&D Establishment has, according to the DefenseNews report, floated a "domestic and global expression of interest (EoI)" on October 31 for the co-development of a "1,500-horsepower Compact High Specific Power Output Diesel Engine". Officials at the laboratory had alluded to this when I was at Avadi for the Arjun MBT special report a few weeks ago, so it's finally now in motion.

This is good news. The MTU powerpack, coupled with the gunner's main sight (GMS) and tracks account for 58 per cent of the cost of a single Arjun tank. It seems reasonable to assume that MTU itself will offer to build the 1,500HP engine with DRDO, though there will of course be other, possibly more efficient, competitors.

Here's what the MoD had to say in March to the House Panel on Defence about manufacturing tank powerpacks in India: "Suitable indigenous power Packs are not available for application in MBT. Indigenous production of power pack through license production is feasible with enhanced production order for MBT Arjun considering the economy of scale. A project for developmentof indigenous power pack is planned in XI Five Year Plan."

Not much headway has been made on an indigenous GMS -- an indigenous laser range finder, day sight, thermal imager and fire control computer won't be part of the Arjun until beyond the hopeful second batch order. Here's what the MoD had to say about it: "There are few vendors in the world who can manufacture gunner’s main sight. DRDO is developing indigenous gunner’s main sight. It is likely to mature and be available beyond 124 tanks."

And finally, the tracks -- when I was at Avadi, I got the picture about why we're still importing tracks: the indigenously made rubber-coated metal pins that hold the indigenous track links together couldn't withstand the friction. The rubber would fray quickly allowing the pin's metal to come into contact with the track's metal, thereby quickly distorting it and resulting in a mobility breakdown. Since DRDO is still developing resistant rubber for those pins, we're importing the entire track assembly. Shouldn't take long though -- the CVRDE has apparently asked for this technology as well from some specialist agencies abroad. And this is what the MoD said in March: "Indigenoustrack is in advanced stage of development. It will be available for Arjun production tanks beyond 124 Nos."

Livefist: Homegrown Tank Engine Project Begins

Thanks for info

 

[bloo]

You are proving yourself to be deluded. Ajai Shukla is a Indian defence analyst and his knowledge is 1000 times better then a source from any Indian news channel about Indian defence.
Im not gonna waste my time proving you this well established point. go do a futher research on your own.

wow sometimes the hypocrisy with some PDF members just reaches legendary status.
A mod actually claims that the word of Ajai Shukla is not believable and here is another Pak member who'll believe it as long as it has something negetive to say.

 

[Yogi]

@indianrabbit @Indian Army
Mastan Khan was telling in
some other thread that India
was developing a 1400 or 1000
hp engine but was able to 500
hp engine as it was our first
time, can u shed some time on it...
n is there any project for
indigenous 1400 hp engine
currently running in India?

One more thing, There was a member who was
saying that Russia didn't proved
full tot for T90s can any of u
clarify....

 

[Hulk]

@indianrabbit @Indian Army
Mastan Khan was telling in
some other thread that India
was developing a 1400 or 1000
hp engine but was able to 500
hp engine as it was our first
time, can u shed some time on it...
n is there any project for
indigenous 1400 hp engine
currently running in India?

One more thing, There was a member who was
saying that Russia didn't proved
full tot for T90s can any of u
clarify....

@Yogi I do not have information. I do have contacts with senior Army official but he is patriotic and does not reveal anything. Also MI taps their cellphone and internet all the time.

 

[Azazel]

What bullsh1t No where is the mention of the involvement of German engineers and technology! Arjun is a variant of German Leopard II designed by Krauss Maffei!

He was just a design consultant.There are plenty of foreign firms involved in the development of Arjun.Most of their involvement are classified.