Stop the salesman's lies and propaganda

[Foinikas]

I don't know why you tolerate and favor the "salesman" so much. He's been the cause of countless flame wars and he's been banned numerous times,yet he always comes back and does the exact same thing. He keeps posting propaganda and lies about my country and instead of setting him straight,you stop me from replying to threads concerning Greece.

Now here's his rant again,that I can't reply to the thread,so I will have to reply here:

Greece has only 25 PHZ-2000 Howitzers
Turkiye has its own 350+154 T-155 Howitzers

Greece has only 40 km R-70 unguided MLRS
Turkiye has its own 40-70-120 km TRLG-122 , TRLG-230 and TRG-300 guided MLRS

Greece doesn't have "only 25 PzH-2000" and "70 R-70" (which is RM-70 actually)

Greece has no 5th gen Anti-Tank Missile
Turkiye has its own OMTAS and KARAOK 5th gen Anti-Tank Missil

Greece is close to getting SPIKE and/or Javelin
Turkey has OMTAS,however in what number? And Karaok isn't in service yet.

Greece has no Air refueling Tanker
Turkiye has 7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers

Why would we even need it? We're not planning on invading anyone. Besides,we have the islands

Greece has 4 R-99 AEWCS
Turkiye has superior 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC

@Akritas and some others I think,replied to you on this already.

Greece has only 5 Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts
Turkiye has 12 Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts

Greece has:

Greece has no strategic transport Aircraft
Turkiye has 10 Airbus A400M strategic transport Aircrafts

Greece has only 23 transport Aircrafts
Turkiye has 84 transport Aircrafts

Greece has enough transport aircraft for defence.

Greece has 90 SCALP air launched Cruise Missile
Turkiye has 400 SOM , SLAM-ER and POPEYE Cruise Missile

Greece has AT LEAST 90 SCALP. More were included in the Rafale deal with France.

Greece has PATRIOT , S300 , TOR AD Systems
Turkiye has superior S400 , HISAR-0 , SIPER AD Systems

Check again:

For the Air Force

For the Army

Greece has only 28 AH-64 Attack Helicopters
Turkiye has 83 T-129 and 10 AH-1W Super Cobra Attack Helicopters

28 Apache and 60 Kiowa Warrior,don't underestimate them.

Greece has no Light Aircraft Carrier
Turkiye has TCG ANADOLU Light Aircraft Carrier

Where's the Anadolu? Is it in active service?

Why would we need an aircraft carrier? We have the islands.

Greece has no Corvette
Turkiye has 4 ADA class stealth Corvette

Greece might be getting corvettes,but still we have 7 Roussen Class Fast Attack Craft,which a good match for your "stealth" corvettes.

Greece has 13 Frigates armed with 208 SAMs
Turkiye has 16 Frigates armed with 672 SAMs

Turkish frigate SAM :

Greece has no Land based EW Systems
Turkiye has its own KORAL , REDET-II , VURAL , MILKAR-A3 , SANCAK Land based EW Systems

Yes,we saw KORAL in Al Watiyah

Greece buys 24 Rafales ... nothing else to threat against the Turkish Armed Forces

and 24 Rafales can not win a war ....

24 Rafale F3R
84 F-16V
3+1 FDI HN

And probably:

SPIKE NLOS
Upgrade of Leopard 2A4s to Leopard 2A7
205 Lynx
40-100 Marder 1A3/A5
24 F-35

By the end of the year,we will have 12 Rafale and some 6 F-16Vs.

At the same time,the Turkish Air Force hasn't received a single screw from USA ever since the sanctions.

If 24 Rafale were not a threat to the Turkish Armed Forces,then Hulusi Akar wouldn't have been complaining about them non-stop since we got them.

And I ask the mods and admins again:


Why do you still tolerate the salesman? He has fought with every nationality on the forum,he has been rude to serious and respected members of the forum,he has badmouthed admins,mods and think tanks. He has been banned numerous times,he has an alt account and he is constantly being rude and provoking people with his nationalistic rants. Apart from all that,he has been spamming the same things again and again in threads.

Please consider this. Dozens of members complain about him,but he still remains and starts flame wars.

 

[Tornado23]

@MMM-E

Fight fight fight

 

[MMM-E]

Greece doesn't have "only 25 PzH-2000" and "70 R-70" (which is RM-70 actually)

Waiter Foinikas ... stop lying and dont change my words
You have banned 2 times in this month , still you are lying , trolling , provoke me and terrorize forum

You have no brain and military knowledge to understand my posts

Greek M-270 fire ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missiles
and I said that Greece has only 165 km ATACMS Block1
Turkiye has its own 150-280-850 km YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN Ballistic Missiles
and Turkiye has also 165 km ATACMS Block1

Greece has only 40 km R-70 unguided MLRS
Turkiye has its own 40-70-120 km TRLG-122 , TRLG-230 and TRG-300 guided MLRS

Turkish Army has more MLRS and Ballistic Missiles
than French+German+British+Greek Armies combined


I said only most modern Howitzers 45 PHZ-2000 vs 350+154 T-155 FIRTINA1/2

Turkiye also doesnt have only T-155 FIRTINA Howitzers

Turkish Army has also

400 PANTHER 155 mm Howitzers
363 modernized M-52T 155 mm Howitzers
219 modernized M110A2 203 mm Howitzers

Also Turkish YAVUZ truck mounted 155 Howitzer

Greece : 590 Howitzers
Turkiye : 1.332 Howitzers

Turkish Army has more Howitzers than French+German+British+Greek Armies combined


Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce its own guided MLRS , Ballistic Missiles , Land based Cruise Missile and Howitzers

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[MMM-E]

Greece is close to getting SPIKE and/or Javelin
Turkey has OMTAS,however in what number? And Karaok isn't in service yet.

When Greece get SPIKE orJAVELIN , Then talk

I am not talking future protects ....

Turkiye has developed 5th gen OMTAS Anti Tank Missile and in service since 2018
and as of 2022 , KARAOK shoulder launched Anti Tank Missile enter the inventory


Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce its own OMTAS , KARAOK and MIZRAK Anti Tank Missiles with top attack capability

Turkiye : OMTAS , KARAOK
Usa : JAVELIN
France : MMP

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[MMM-E]

Why would we even need it? We're not planning on invading anyone. Besides,we have the islands

Greece is so tiny-weak country without power projection

on the other hand Turkiye is regional power and Turkish Air Force has large scale operation capability all around the world

7 Boeing KC-135 air refueling Tankers and 140 F-16 Fighter Jets

.... Turkish military Bases in Libya , Qatar and Somali


btw the NATO campaign against Serbia during Operation Allied Force in 1999

Turkish F-16 Jets had previously patrolled Balkan airspace, providing protection for attacking aircraft. During this allied air campaign, Turkish F-16s set a world CAP record by patrolling for 9 hours and 22 minutes above the Balkan theatre. Normally, CAP missions last between 3 and 4 hours

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[MMM-E]

Greece has:

I am talking about Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts

Turkiye : 12
Greece : 5

Turkish Navy has also 24 SEAHAWK ASW Helicopters , while Greece has only 11 SEAHAWK ASW Helicopters

Turkish Navy has also 12 Bell AB-12 Naval Helicopters , while Greece has only 7 Bell AB-12 Naval Helicopters


also Turkiye has developed its own T-625 multi-purpose Helicopter
but Greece produce nothing

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[MMM-E]

Greece has enough transport aircraft for defence.

Greece is so tiny-weak country without power projection

on the other hand Turkiye is regional power and Turkish Air Force has 10 Airbus A400M Strategic Transport Aircraft

in one sortie of 10 Airbus A400M
TURAF can deploy 20 T-129 Attack Helicopters in Turkish military bases in Libya or Qatar or Somalia within hours

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[MMM-E]

Check again:

For the Air Force

Now Turkiye has better Air Defense capability to compare with Greece


Greece
PATRIOT
S300
TOR-M1
CROTALE
SKYGUARD-II
MIM-23B
SA-8 GECKO
ARTEMIS-30 mm


Turkiye
S400
HISAR-A
HISAR-O
SUNGUR
KORKUT
ŞAHIN
NAZAR-KARA
ATILGAN with 8 x STINGER
Modernized HAWK XXI
Modernized OERLIKON
RAPIER
IGLA

And SIPER as of december 2022

also KORAL and REDET-II Radar EW Systems
and 600 km Radars , BIG BIRD , EIRS and E-7T AEWC's PESA


Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce its own
-- SUNGUR , KORKUT , HISAR-A , HISAR-O , SIPER AD Systems
-- KORAL and REDET-II Radar EW Systems
-- 600 km EIRS Early warning AESA Radar

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[MMM-E]

Greece has AT LEAST 90 SCALP. More were included in the Rafale deal with France.

I am talking about current situation

As of 2022
Greece : 90 SCALP
Turkiye : 400 SOM , SLAM-ER , POPEYE

İf we are talking about ongoing projects , then Turkiye produce 415 SOM Cruise Missiles
so 415 SOM , 95 POPEYE and 50 SLAM-ER

also 150 km CAKIR and 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ air launched Cruise Missiles


Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce its own SOM , also soon CAKIR and KUZGUN-TJ


Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[Maula Jatt]

@MMM-E

Fight fight fight

Definitely makes it in the top 10 moron lists of this forum

 

[MMM-E]

28 Apache and 60 Kiowa Warrior,don't underestimate them.

Then

Greece
28 AH-64
60 KIOWA

Turkiye
83 T-129
10 AH-1W Super Cobra
42 AH-1 Cobra

also 200+ TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs to hunt enemy Tanks

Turkiye has the best fire power in NATO after USA to hunt enemy Tanks



Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce its own Attack Helicopters and UCAVs


Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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Foinikas : 0

 

[MMM-E]

Where's the Anadolu? Is it in active service?

Why would we need an aircraft carrier? We have the islands.

Greece is so tiny-weak country without power projection

on the other hand Turkiye is regional power ... TCG ANADOLU to help the Turkish Navy for high sea operations ... for example Libya

TCG ANADOLU enter service as of december 2022

Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce its own Naval platforms ( Corvette , Frigate , FAC ,OPV , Patrol Boat , Super Tanker , LCT , LST , LHD )


Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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[Foinikas]

Definitely makes it in the top 10 moron lists of this forum

Conclusion of all of MMM-E's threads and comments:

"Turkey strongest country in the world"

He posted what,8 replies on this thread? To say what?

"Tiny Greece..."

What I wonder is,why do the admins and mods keep him when he has caused so many flame wars and nationalistic rants.

 

[MMM-E]

Greece might be getting corvettes,but still we have 7 Roussen Class Fast Attack Craft,which a good match for your "stealth" corvettes.

Keep dreaming dream is free ... might be , might be .. no any deal

Greece : 0
Turkiye : 4 ADA class stealth Corvettes

as of Turkish Navy has 22 FACs which a good match for 7 Roussen Class FACs

also Turkiye has started producing HISAR class OPV ( 10 OPV to be produced )
also 10 new FACs

even Turkish Unmanned Vessels can be enough for 7 Roussen Class FACs

70-150 km TRLG-230 and 250 km ATMACA land based Anti-Ship missiles to turn all Hellenic Navy into crap of metal


Greece produce nothing
on the other hand Turkiye produce its own Naval platforms ( Corvette , Frigate , FAC ,OPV , Unmanned Vessel ) also Anti-Ship missiles


Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

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Foinikas : 0

What I wonder is,why do the admins and mods keep him when he has caused so many flame wars and nationalistic rants.

You opened a stupid thread to deflect the facts and personal attack on me with your lies

MODS very well knows about your dirty game .....

 

[Foinikas]

Know your place with your weak-tiny Greece

MMM-E : 9
Foinikas : 0

Sure buddy,whatever you say

You opened a stupid thread to deflect the facts and personal attack on me with your lies

MODS very well knows about your dirty game .....

Sure buddy,give more points to yourself. 11-0.