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Stamp on passport bodes well for India-China talks

With the bang of a stamp into a passport, a visa issued by a Chinese consulate has made headline news across India as a good omen during the start of talks between the world’s two most populous countries.

The Asian giants will have plenty to discuss, including trade, currency exchange rates and regional arms deals, when Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna spends four days in Beijing this week. One of the major items will be passport rules, something that could have been a footnote on the agenda if it weren't so highly symbolic. It's called the “stapled visa issue,” an infamous paperwork problem in countries already encumbered with layers of bureaucracy.

In recent years, China has refused to stamp passports from Indian-controlled Kashmir, a region on India’s northern border that is claimed by Beijing’s ally Pakistan. People from Kashmir who wanted to visit China received a separate visa page stapled into their passport. Those pages proved useless for direct travel from India to China, however, because Indian authorities would not allow people to leave the country without a stamped visa.

India wanted stamps, China wanted staples. Neither side backed down because of what the difference meant: New Delhi felt a stamped passport reflected the Indian citizenship of residents of Kashmir, while the Chinese were loath to do anything that might be taken as an acknowledgment of India's claim to the disputed territory.

It was a travel nightmare for Kashmiris such as Shakil Romshoo, an associate professor at the University of Kashmir, who was stopped at the Delhi airport in November while trying to fly to China to collect an academic prize for his research on Himalayan lakes. The stapled – not stamped – Chinese visa in his passport prevented him from picking up his medal, citation and cash award.

That experience made him skeptical when one of his colleagues, Professor Mufeed Ahmad, tried a similar trip on the weekend. To the surprise of the entire faculty, he said, the professor of management studies received a stamped – not stapled – visa at the Chinese consulate, and sent home a triumphant e-mail upon arrival.

“He is very excited, because he wasn't sure he'd make it to Beijing,” Dr. Romshoo said. “It's a sign of hope. I feel something will change.

This is good, because it's an issue between China and India, not about us.”

Even in the Indian capital, where the issue does not directly affect anyone, analysts said the problem cannot be dismissed as a minor part of this week's meetings. Media reports have described the stapled visas as a “core concern” for the Foreign Minister, who is making his first visit to China and leads the highest-level delegation to the country since his government took power last year. The fact that China issued a stamped visa to Dr. Ahmad was widely reported in the Indian media, which quoted Indian diplomats musing about whether it was a clerical error, or reflected a change in policy in Beijing.

Either way, the Indian delegation must push hard on the issue this week, said Alka Acharya, chair of the Chinese studies program at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi.

“This is difficult for China, because recognizing our passports may be seen as breaching its impartiality on the Kashmir issue,” she said. “But it's one of those things that make a big storm in this country. It cannot be left hanging in the air.”

The passport issue is among a number of items on Mr. Krishna’s agenda that relate to Pakistan. The delegation also hopes to dissuade China from assisting with construction projects in the part of Kashmir controlled by Pakistan, and plans to object to China selling fighter aircraft to India's rival. Such items could strain the conversation on other topics, such as obtaining China's support for a seat at the United Nations Security Council, but analysts say this fits the historical pattern of Sino-Indian relations.

“Pakistan has been in the middle of our relations with China since the 1960s,” Ms. Acharya said.

For ordinary people in the border regions who carry Indian passports, it remains unclear whether they will get stamped or stapled if they apply for a Chinese visa. Until the dispute between China and India is resolved, the only certain method of getting around the problem is to make a side trip to a country where authorities don't mind allowing passengers on flights with stapled visa pages. Many travellers cannot afford such a trip, however.

“It costs money and time,” said Dr. Romshoo at the University of Kashmir. “It can affect their livelihoods.”

Stamp on passport bodes well for India-China talks - The Globe and Mail
 
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Justin , i love reading posts by you.... but this title of your thread my man is an invitation to blame game , trolling..... you know pakistani `patriotism` towards china... can U pls change the title of ur thread mate?
BTW Happy Easter :)
 
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First of all, please accept my strong criticism for such low level title of thread. This only tells us about false ego. Had China not agreed to Indian request, what options does India has. I understand India can put some pressure on China through diplomatic channels. However the success of such move is matter of speculation.

Frankly speaking, China played its cards well. It gave visa on "Indian" passport implying it considers Kashmir a part of India. But it altered the type of visa to make it confusing and to satisfy Pakistan. Anyways, now issue should have been resolved.

This will certainly increase the trust level between India and China. Both govts are mature and active wisely.
 
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India, China should shun competitive approach: Krishna

India and China should show “maturity” in managing their differences, including the boundary dispute, and avoid viewing each other as competitors, External Affairs Minister S. M. Krishna said today, arguing that strong India-China ties would have global consequences.

Presenting an upbeat picture of India-China ties, Mr. Krishna said the bilateral issues are “under total control” and the two countries have evolved a mechanism to find a solution to issues like boundary demarcation.

“We have to accept that there will be outstanding issues between the two countries even as our relationship forges ahead. This is in the very nature of global politics and we should not get discouraged as a result,” he said in his address at a function here.

He said as rising powers, India and China are often projected to have a “competitive relationship” but it depends on the two neighbours to craft out their own course.

“In the final analysis, we all are what we want to be. It is upto us to disprove such scenarios, not through platitudes and wishful thinking, but by concrete examples of cooperation,” he said.

On his maiden visit to China, Mr. Krishna said the effective cooperation forged by the two countries on climate negotiations in Copenhagen should be extended to other global issues, including fighting terrorism.

“A strong and stable relationship between India and China has consequences for the entire world. Because we are different, our divergences are often exaggerated. If truth be told, there are vested interests at work too”.

“India and China must not just cooperate; they must be seen to be doing so by the rest of the world,” he said pointing out that their cooperation at Copenhagen had decisively sent out a message to the world that “here are two developing economies who are coming together for the purpose of making the world a better place“.

“India and China have only begun to impact seriously on the world. Just as we advanced de-colonisation and independence movements in the fifties, today we are striving to rewrite the rules of the world a little more in our favour,” he said.

In his speech, Mr. Krishna said the bilateral cooperation forged by the two countries specially on climate change negotiations should be extended to the issue “concerning the instability in our neighbourhood” and to face the challenges in the “immediate periphery” of the two countries.

The Hindu : News / National : India, China should shun competitive approach: Krishna
 
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justin ......it seems u want a bashing thread.......u couldn\'t thought of any other meaningful title.....
if u want proper discussion then ....please change thread title.....,
 
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I dont think china has bowed down to any pressure from India...this gesture from China comes as a sign of developing relation between india and China..it should be appreciated...thus the title seems a little provoking...however its a great news.
 
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The title of this thread is very inappropriate ..Mods/Justin please delete the first part of the sentence.
 
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The title of this thread is very inappropriate ..Mods/Justin please delete the first part of the sentence.

okey deleted that line. but one has to remember the titles given by some chinese and pak members. And it is related to the topic.

anyways changed it for you.
 
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Justin , i love reading posts by you.... but this title of your thread my man is an invitation to blame game , trolling..... you know pakistani `patriotism` towards china... can U pls change the title of ur thread mate?
BTW Happy Easter :)


deleted the headline. don't know how to change title.

Thnx for wishes. God Bless u.
 
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but one has to remember the titles given by some chinese and pak members.

hey justin,I like your posts man...and all your posts reflect your maturity...and you very well know why they use those provocative titles ...are you going to do the same??
i hope you gt my point...:cheers: Anyways that was a nice news.
 
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thank you justin.....i think thread title can only be changed by mods......
let others write what they want n show there mental capacity,don\'t stoop to there level....
n...HAPPY EASTER..... :)
 
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When a chinese needs security clearance to come to India then what is wrong If China issue a staple visa instead of stamped one..
I saw million Indian goes to Gulf countries with stapled visa and they dont have any problem with it...
 
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so far no chinese and pakistani members had responded,but by the way the title goes,very soon we can hear abt indian toilets,no water in it,200 % poverty,1 cent annual income,50000 times rise in indian defense budget,LCA,ARJUN TANK etc:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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