Stalled SR-SAM: Parrikar Briefed Twice In A Month

[koushik]

LOL. What is the reaction time required for the SR-SAM ? Why can't a SAM of 30 km range not be used for 15 km range ? ........ what has VLS or being bulky got anything to do with Land based SAM ?

Reaction time in the range of SPYDER SR SAM.....
Bulky nature will create problems especially if it's mounted on Naval Ships and the SR-SAM has been envisaged as a Tri-Services missile as a result compact missiles are the way to go on ships plus a VLS lauching mechanism has its own advantages such as a significantly lower RCS as compared to an open twin arm or Tri - arm launcher and VLS configuration allows the operator to have greater number of weapons to be simultaneously......
Then coming to the Radar - Rajendra radar of the Akash Missile is a PESA radar whereas say the SPYDER SR uses the Elta EL/M 2106 ATAR which is an ASEA 4th Gen Radar
Plus the Akash missiles lack seekers, they rely on command guidance whereas quick-reaction SAMs must have inbuilt seekers ( IIR or Active-Radar) coupled with Lock-on Before Launch ( LOBL) or Lock on after launch ( LOAL) plus they must have high off-boresight capability.....

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Reaction time in the range of SPYDER SR SAM.....
Bulky nature will create problems especially if it's mounted on Naval Ships and the SR-SAM has been envisaged as a Tri-Services missile as a result compact missiles are the way to go on ships plus a VLS lauching mechanism has its own advantages such as a significantly lower RCS as compared to an open twin arm or Tri - arm launcher and VLS configuration allows the operator to have greater number of weapons to be simultaneously......
Then coming to the Radar - Rajendra radar of the Akash Missile is a PESA radar whereas say the SPYDER SR uses the Elta EL/M 2106 ATAR which is an ASEA 4th Gen Radar
Plus the Akash missiles lack seekers, they rely on command guidance whereas quick-reaction SAMs must have inbuilt seekers ( IIR or Active-Radar) coupled with Lock-on Before Launch ( LOBL) or Lock on after launch ( LOAL) plus they must have high off-boresight capability.....

What a croak of rubbish.

You do not even know the required reaction time and you have declared Spyder SAM as the winner

IN has already settled on Barak 1/8, so any discussion on that is pointless.

VLS has NOTHING to do with operating multiple missile simultaneously ..... it has everything to do with the Radar and fire control system. Some thing which Akash can already do.

RCS has nothing to do with this either.

What advantage does and AESA offer over an PESA ? Where does it say Rajendra cannot be upgraded IF required ?

Active seeker is currently being tested on Akash, It is already operational on Astra. So no advantage to Spyder either.

 

[koushik]

What a croak of rubbish.

You do not even know the required reaction time and you have declared Spyder SAM as the winner

IN has already settled on Barak 1/8, so any discussion on that is pointless.

VLS has NOTHING to do with operating multiple missile simultaneously ..... it has everything to do with the Radar and fire control system. Some thing which Akash can already do.

RCS has nothing to do with this either.

What advantage does and AESA offer over an PESA ? Where does it say Rajendra cannot be upgraded IF required ?

Active seeker is currently being tested on Akash, It is already operational on Astra. So no advantage to Spyder either.

Like I said the Maitri SR SAM was envisaged as a "point defence short range quick reaction missile " to be used by all three services including the Navy and in order to be used in ships it needs to be compact and light here is a comparison for you
Akash weighs 720kg has a length of 5.78m whereas other short range SAMs such as the Barak-I has a length of 2.8m weighs 98kg only or the 57E6 missile of the Pantsyr S1 weighs 65 kg and has a length of 3.1m only
The Akash is twice as longer as these missiles and weighs 8-11 times more than each of these missiles.....and these are all SR-SAMs...
And as far as the Radar goes an AESA Radar can scan faster and engage a lot more targets simultaneously compared to a PESA plus it is almost immune to Enemy EW attacks as well as its not prone to be a target of Anti-Radiation Munitions since the signals emitted from an AESA are impossible to detect....
An AESA will scan,track,guide and even act as a high powered Jammer...!!

Coming to the launchers when used on Ships having a VLS SAM has various advantages....it doesn't take up huge chunks of space as compared to an open launcher.....then the ability to carry out Ripple-Fire ( 6-8 missiles in one go as seen in the Evolved Sea Sparro Missile) - a necessity for Quick Reaction SR SAMs to engage targets at very close range...!!!

Akash by no means is comparable to a quick reaction SR SAM it's a medium range SAM

What a croak of rubbish.

You do not even know the required reaction time and you have declared Spyder SAM as the winner

IN has already settled on Barak 1/8, so any discussion on that is pointless.

VLS has NOTHING to do with operating multiple missile simultaneously ..... it has everything to do with the Radar and fire control system. Some thing which Akash can already do.

RCS has nothing to do with this either.

What advantage does and AESA offer over an PESA ? Where does it say Rajendra cannot be upgraded IF required ?

Active seeker is currently being tested on Akash, It is already operational on Astra. So no advantage to Spyder either.

AKASH SAM will not fit as a VSHORAD a fair comparison would be the MBDA MICA VL or the Rafael C-DOME

And the reason I mentioned the SPYDER-SR was because it is arguably the best SR Quick Reaction SAM available currently..!!

What a croak of rubbish.

You do not even know the required reaction time and you have declared Spyder SAM as the winner

IN has already settled on Barak 1/8, so any discussion on that is pointless.

VLS has NOTHING to do with operating multiple missile simultaneously ..... it has everything to do with the Radar and fire control system. Some thing which Akash can already do.

RCS has nothing to do with this either.

What advantage does and AESA offer over an PESA ? Where does it say Rajendra cannot be upgraded IF required ?

Active seeker is currently being tested on Akash, It is already operational on Astra. So no advantage to Spyder either.

AKASH SAM will not fit as a VSHORAD as it is not possible to fit a 720kg,6m tall missile in a VLS Cell.......a fair comparison would be the MBDA MICA VL or the Rafael C-DOME

And the reason I mentioned the SPYDER-SR was because it is arguably the best SR Quick Reaction SAM available currently..!!