Sri Lankan tourists sent back home

[Saradiel]

@Gibbs and @HeinzG
machan methana BBS eka gana katha karanna epa, meka ekata niyama thana nemei .. btwn i' l answer all ur qns later

 

[HeinzG]

@Gibbs and @HeinzG
machan methana BBS eka gana katha karanna epa, meka ekata niyama thana nemei .. btwn i' l answer all ur qns later

Hmmm...... adagena naanna one naa ne!

 

[Saradiel]

Hmmm...... adagena naanna one naa ne!

eka thamai mamath kianne, therenawanam

 

[Rocky25]

Why don’t they release the meta data of the pics to support their claim? If meta data is released, we can find whthr it is the same camera. Also a single photo did nt come from gove

I don't know their concerns.

So u cant prove SLA killed the boy.

No one had the motives except SLA.

Soldiers can and will kill boys as long as they hold a gun targetting u at battlefront. Btwn u FAILED to prove SLA killed the boy.

Between this 12 year old boy did not have any gun and Channel 4 has proofs and it is for UN and US and other nations to decide.

How is ur comment related to my comment. Were u trying for an opportunity to say indian soldiers have to fight in cold enviros? After all it was u being babish here crying for civilian deaths. That is why I told u to grow up. Don’t get disheartened. Civillian deaths do happen and normal in a war. It becomes a crime only they are deliberately targetted. have no idea abt humantarian laws? Well I can understand.

If you cannot understand simple comparison then I leave it there for other to decide. Ward do happen... but war crimes should be punished! By your Logic Hitler did everything correct.

But UN doesn’t care abt CH4 video. Why is that? Cos lack of evidences to make a proper claim.

But they are bring the motion against SL... That is the difference!

But u previously said the resolution is abt CH4 video and war crimes. So this means u accept u were wrong and being stupid

So were you sure that CH4 made no impact upon the UN? No one really knows... May be the CH4 acted as catalyst!

I saw and didn’t see any relation. So don’t be arrogant and tell us how it relates. Will u darling?

If your genius brain could not understand, I can't help.. Lets move on! Between I was never arrogant towards anyone!

So TN police or people cant control it?

If TN People and Police can control everything then there will be NO courts and Jails and infact there is NO need for Police in the first place... Anyway travelling to TN is dangerous... better refrain from it.

So u accept u make things difficult for SL to do reconciliation? Are u proud of that? Isnt it contradictory u speak for it in other posts and do something else.
Creating havoc is anyone’s ability nothing to be proud in it. After all where did I say that?

We are just asking you to do which you promised on your own. Nothing more, Nothing less! Let peace prevail!

 

[Rocky25]

So GOSL is responsible for LTTE killing people? U people have a remarkable ability of being a complete idiot!

Hey dumb ***.... I wrote this.

"Nope, It is responsibility of the civilian government, If they would have provided safe passage then thousands of people would have survived... then it is NOT called as collateral damage but as Human rights violations! They did NOT got killed by LTTE fire but by SL Army fire!"

Where did I say that LTTE killed the civilians... Crystal clear proof that you are tweaking what others say!

GOSL provided safe package that is why many left (300000+). On 13/14 April 2009 GOSL issued a unilateral ceasefire for remaining civilians to come to government side but LTTE held them at gun point and used that time to build defences to delay SLA advances. Talk abt some thing u knw.
LTTE shot at the ones who fled. There are eyewitnesses, and HR reports.

2 days wow... There also HR reports that SLA was involved in gross violations... for that reason the US and UN are moving a motion!

When u start war u lose peace. U cant have it both ways. And it is not ur ethnic people they are lankan people.
What interests? Are u threatening us? India stopped supporting LTTE or seperatism for a reason. That is still there. I told u earlier we have our own trump cards. After all SL n Ind have gud relations so ind gove see no reason to go against SL and we too have none. u did it last time too, what effect?

Pray that you talked sense this time! Let peace prevail and economy flourish! But we consider the SL, Malaysian, Singaporean Tamils as our ethnic population and we care for them!

There is noithing brilliant abt Lankans in that comment but again u failing to understand that no surprise! Do u really knw what that motion is abt? U laughing stock! U really want me to believe dead bodies of LTTE cadres to be bodies of civilians?

You can believe that all the dead bodies are LTTE Terrorist, and there is NOT even a single civilian killed! Opinion differs! Hai Saradiel!

I didn’t oppose u honey bunny. I said urs is not news at all. It is known by every1. Go back and see wht u said earlier. That might help u from this embarrassment.

No one can make me feel inferior without my consent... I never tweak others responses.

Why should I provide any source when I allege no case? It is the one who accuses who should bring sources not vise versa u idiot.
The same reason Indian tamils come to SL

You piece of ****.... I provided you the proofs via links... Now you should debunk it with proofs to counter them! Not show your big **** mouth to the whole world... Between I never wanted personal attacks... But you need this treatment!

 

[Rocky25]

Do u think countries pay hard cash before buying foreign stuff? Do u think it is like u going to a nearest shop and buying dosai or whtever paying ‘hard cash’? never have any experience or knwlege on import export? I pity u!

I will leave it to others to decide on what is the difference between Hard cash and soft load arms!

So we bought radar equipment. Whats wrong in it? Actually the indian radar was not satisfactory we moved on to chinese ones when we use chinese ones u ppl complain, when we use indian ones u ppl still complain. Funny stuff!
SL intelligence and Indian intelligence coordinated with each other. It is not something new. Training is not a secret, it is in papers everywhere. And it is mainly as a cooperation betwn two countries. Actually we did it showing TN middle finger India provided some info on LTTE routes our navy finished them off.

If india helped us, we made india help us. That is part of our strategy too. [/QUOTE]

Sorry you cannot make India dance to your tune... RAW is not that defunct!

Yes one have to read a lot, not a single piece.

The Way Forward | B. Raman

Btwn this is written by B.Raman who was in IA and RAW. I guess he has more credentials than ur someone srivastav.
The Way Forward
The unhappiness in Sri Lanka over the Indian vote in favour of the resolution in the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) on the question of the human rights of the Sri Lankan Tamils--action in respect of past violations during the counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operations against the LTTE and to safeguard their human rights in future in the form of a political solution to the grievances and aspirations of the Tamils-- is understandable.

This unhappiness is unlikely to turn into bitterness. Even in the past, the Sinhalese were unhappy over what they perceived as the Indian support to the LTTE in the years before its assassination of Rajiv Gandhi in May 1991. This unhappiness never turned into bitterness and hatred for India.

Anyone who knows Sri Lanka and the Sinhalese well would be aware of their genuine goodwill for India. There were instances in the past when Sri Lankan governments had taken steps which were detrimental to Indian interests. A typical example was before the 1971 India-Pakistan war when they allowed Pakistani Air Force planes carrying men and supplies to East Pakistan to refuel in Sri Lankan airports. When Indira Gandhi strongly objected to this, they discontinued it.

Some lessons abt diplomacy,
Speeches by diplomats are not mere speeches on an occasion. It is done to convey a signal to a certain party. This is the Pakistani way of doing that. The aim may have been to convince the Indian gov they do have excellent relationship with Lanka.

So why India supported LTTE before RG assasination... Food for thought!

But u boasted abt bloodbath while acting like anti terrorism. U cant take back ur words btwn is it a threat? SL have good relationship with india it is just TN being a thorn.

No TN is your worst dream!

Yes our leadership, diplomacy, war strategy, commitment and bravey, dedication everything are needed

Nope it is Indian support.... It does not takes great 'Bravery' to fight with MBRL against simple AK-47...

But we made sure India wont be able to throw the weight behind LTTE. We could win and won without india’s support it was LTTE which was defeated without india’s support.

That is your dreamt fact!

 

[Rocky25]

Thank you for confirming TN is like tribal areas in pakistan ..however lanka consider india to be a friendly country, so SLG may have been reluctant to have a travel advisory on india. Not every 1 in India is an idiot like u.

If some one gives examples... It is for understanding... You should not think the example and the scenario at hand are exactly same.

Thank u for accpeting ur stooges. But u couldn’t do the same in SL for the past 30 yrs. That says something right? Indian army found SL condition extremely difficult having a casualty rate of 400 per week (the highest in indian history). SL is not Pakistan.
We have our own trump cards and india knows it very well, though u are unaware of it. Do u knw the contents of the resolution?

There is LOT of difference between COULDN'T and WOULDN'T! Between don't compare yourself with Pakistan! You are better this way for yourself in the first place!

But always gives a non related answer. In his comment Skyline mentioned SLA as the one who gave refuge and protection for Prabhakaran’s parents. Then u mistook it as IA and went on boasting. Normally a sensible person would read the comment again if faced with such a situ, seems like u rn't one like that.

You yourself told I mistook... But it is much better that tweaking to make it completely different meaning.

however lanka consider india to be a friendly country, so SLG may have been reluctant to have a travel advisory on india.

I can tell that it is hot and be cautious... If you disregard.. then feel the burn!

But kashmir has nt been used to bring resolution in UN. Why should SL be singled out? SL is one of the last countries to be quetioned by UN. No one has a right to point at SL. Also the war in SL is over while violence in Kashmir is continuing. I saw in a different thread this man make some derogatory remarks against a certain religion. Wonder why the mod are keeping him still.

I made derogatory remarks against a certain religion??? Wow, can you kindly point out... if it turns out to be true, I will correct myself! Between... You can try bring in a motion against if you want in UN!

you accepted u re
Why don’t u answer my qn? How do u deduce the killer of the child with two photographs where one is a live child and the other is a dead body? Why CH4 is reluctant to release meta data of photos? U are NOT answering this.
What are those evidence? I ask u again how is US resolution related to “evidence”? I knw u have difficulty in comprehension, so I l answer it for u. The resolution is abt implementing the LLRC and CH4 video has no connection with that.

I never told that 'just' because of that two photos.... the Americans are bringing in the motion.... Implement the 13th Amendment which you promised.. Unless that time you will be followed up!

You ask the same qn again when it is not answered first time, not when ure a stupid Pls take a class to develop ur comprehension abilities and english.

Between 'English' is a proper noun, This is a lesson in Std II (7 years kid knows it)

U don’t have a right to push anything on us just because ur ethnic populace live here, or just because u have interest in our issues. You can influence us but not force us. That is exactly what GOI is telling u which ur ppl find hard to grasp. The reality is Lankan gov wouldn’t care for two hoots how much u dance in ur streets or immerse ur self in petrol.
Lanka and India are two countries, just because u speak tamil and some of us speak tamil doesn’t make u eligible to meddle in our affairs. U re an indian the tamils here are lankan. Actually Tamils here consider themselves to be different from ur lot.

Thank you... If you think that UN resolution does NOT affect you! They why cry hell here! Be a happy camper!

 

[Rocky25]

If u want to keep prestige then act like some adults without throwing stones at others. It is that simple. SLG declare travel advisory to any place they think that is unsafe to Lankans. If u don’t want to be labelled as that then act like that. I told u once y these lankan catholics visit Tamil nadu. I guess I m correct when I say “u don’t read before u reply”. I will visit tamil nadu if I want, we arent scared. But we don’t want our poor devotees harmed. When SLG issued travel advisory it was GOI requested to lift it promising to provide safety. So it is ur state’s failure.
Also I heard SLG is starting to strengthen its defence network in TN so don’t think we ll have problem any longer Also we ve seen many indian tamils in SL both tourists and employees. So be mindful.
I am sorry if u don’t knw much abt TN, but here in SL the last refuge of drug dealers and underworld gangs is TN. U attract very nice people, don’t u think.

Still you cannot understand the simple thing.... I advice NOT to come to TN till the heat cools down! Every one takes risks in life... You can bet on your risks... Between I rest my case here.

PS: I don't understand what you had written(Highlighted in bold)!

 

[GoodBoy]

Expect worse when Modi/BJP come into office.

A Modi/BJP victory will take Indian diplomacy back 50 years.

After Indophobia you are having MODIPhobia.

 

[Saradiel]

too longer to read...answer! so I'll answer to your major points.

My stance on devolution never change. Devolution should not be based on one ethnic or religion or region. That's it.

It doesn’t matter whether ur stance change or not, that is required by this country for progress. It is required when two different cultures amalgamate. There are many countries who have achieved many things with proper power devolution. Also there are many countries which has suffered a lot because their leaders and ppl didn’t have the wisdom to come up with proper power devolution.
Also GOSL has promised tamil ppl and international community to bring a power devolution. Therefore we can’t reject it now. And it is not bad for SL but good for it.

Every province should have a same system, just like we have now. Sinhalese also living in these areas, why you forget them in that solution you're mentioning?

Where have I said Sinhalese can’t live in these areas? It is the power devolution I am talking abt. Also I wonder how many Sinhalese would like to go to these areas abandoning their traditional villages, unless economic conditions forced them to.

Entire island is native land of Sinhalese. Different races joined to our society in different stages..No one can deny rights of Sinhalese any where in the island.

Sinhalese too joined in a different stage no. SL is the native land of Sinhalese, tamils, SL moors and burgher, veddha. In south Sinhala civilization flourished while in north Tamil did. Every one is a native.

Ape aya hindi sindu kiyanne, hindi danagenada? demala sindu kiyanne demala danegenada? Sinhala kiyanne Sinhalayenge language eka unata lankawe vadi pirisakata puluwan language eka.

Its not like singing a song, u sing the anthem with emotions and love and pride of ur country. When u sing it with a totally alien lang u don’t feel it. The thing is Tamil has a long history in the island as much as Sinhalese language. So it is totally acceptable to have an anthem in two languages. Tamils are NOT recent immigrants who joined later.
Scrapping Tamil national anthem is a signal by the gov that tamils are not part of SL culture which is dead wrong.

Indian Tamil national anthem eka mokada kiyala dana ganna kamathie. mama nam ahala na.

there is an Indian Tamil national anthem. u can google it.

haven't taken your driving licence yet?

How does my driving license relate this? Don’t have any other worthy argument?

Never have seen UN meeting or something? We do use these methods, we have to improve all 3 language usage more and more.

So u want to conduct meetings in SL provincial council halls the way they do in UN? Are u real? That is exactly why I said u have no iota of understanding what administration is. Administration is there to serve the people. So it has to be in the language ppl speak.
What is the use for an average Sinhalese in learning tamil? And for a tamil in learning Sinhala? They can learn each other’s languages if they want. It never should be a national policy. The tamils in SL already distrust Sinhala ppl and gov. So such a step would make them believe Sinhala lang is forced on them.
Also look at the practicability. Ppl spend a lot of money and time to learn English still many are not comfortable in that. Do u want them to learn a 3rd lang? what is the use?

All the comments of yours based on North and East provinces. dude, rest of Tamil and Moor community does not face any issue? or all their issues get solved when North & East provinces Tamils get power devolution? lol

How can u say they do not face any issue when ure not one? Have u ever read a newspaper? Go and talk to a tamil in Colombo.
Moors don’t ask for power devolution cos they are not concentrated in any place. Also they don’t have traditional villages here, more like scattered all over. And they don’t ask for it, it is the tamils. Just read a book or a news paper before going around sayin tamils outside N&E don’t want power devolution or u can use internet. Yes power devolution would solve many of the problems faced by them while giving them the authority to find solutions on their own.
In time just go through power devolution in other countries. (India, Britain, Netherland, USA, )

patalava ganna epa, rate identity eka majority eke identity eken thamai pilibibu wenne. ae ae community walata identity thiyenava namuth rate identity eka Sinhala buddhists kiyana eka wenne me rata mulika samajaya e aya nisa. Sinhala/sinhalese kiyanne lankavata vitharak unique una jathiyak, sinhalayo wena rataka jeevath una paliyata unge culture ekata unique wenne na ban.

Just because Sinhalese are unique in SL, it doesn’t give them a monopoly on SL. This is the country of S/M/T/B and many others. If a country has an identity it should be inclusive of all the ppl living in it. Otherwise u have to segregate. Malaysian Sinhalese, Aus Sinhalese will adopt to their respective countries. They will only have memories of roots here. That is how many ppl migrate from country to country. Once they adopt they will become a community there.
That is exactly why I say read more newsppr and a book cos I see ure lazay. If ure gonna talk abt lankan issues at least have some understanding of the issues in SL.

(I'm lazy to reply for too longer comments.)

That is exactly why I say read more newsppr and a book cos I see ure lazay. If ure gonna talk abt lankan issues at least have some understanding of the issues in SL.

I want to know something from Indian members. India has different national anthems?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_Gana_Mana

 

[Saradiel]

You should understand that it was the same yellow robed thugs that went to Mavila aru to protest against LTTE actions, it was the same yellow robed thugs that went to Monkey-bridge to protest the illegal LTTE camps based their. It is the same yellow robed thugs that created the resolute ideology to give fight back to end LTTE. It was the same yellow robed thugs who went to Vavuniya during the notorious Wanni debacle to chant pirith. So Mr.Gibbs get your facts correct.

So u believe we won the war because monks chanted pirith, went to protest at mavil aru? We won because of our army and MR, GR and SF. Do u really believe gov waited until monks go and protest in mavil aru to go to war? Gov has been getting ready for war. SF and GR made the defence and military ready and MR and BR made the international forces read. Once the military and diplomatic fronts were made ready they went to war. Mavil Aru was just an excuse. I know monks try to use the war victory for their own advantages. That is to deceive the gullible public like u.

The soldiers in battle front did far more service than a monk with a placard.

Sri Lankan identity is Buddhism. SL shaped itself and Sinhalese developed their culture around Buddhism. So their is no issue in calling Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country.

Their is no difference races in SL (maybe I don't know what Muslims think about themselves). All people in SL share same genes. We are only separated by cultures.

SL began in 1948. The country that began in 48 is a country of many communities. Don’t relate pre existing historical conditions. There were many Buddhist kingdoms in SL, also hindu kingdoms. Once the country got independent it is a new country of S/T/M/B. Sri Lanka is not a Buddhist country, it is a multi religious country. Not sure? Have a walk around SL.
By race I meant the tamil, Sinhala, moor…cos we were discussing it Also Muslim is not a race. Moor is a race.

Sri Lanka is the umbrella identity of many religions and ethnicities. If to remain as one Sri Lankan identity should reflect all ethnicities and be all inclusive. Naththam venveema thamai. Kawada hari lankawa dekata kadanne koti nemei ogollo wage Sinhala ayama thamai.

 

[Saradiel]

Indians accepted Bengali as the language of national anthem because it was composed by a renown Bengali poet IMO. Not because they are so secular that they tolerate everything. And furthermore Indians aren't divided on linguistic lines as Sri Lankans. Therefore they can BE A INDIAN as anywhere else in the world. I think some Indian member could shed some light on this issue.

Our national anthem is composed by a Sinhalese poet hence the national anthem is in Sinhalese, just like India. Then why is this fuss?

NO. It is by power devolution that several linguistic people can be united.

 

[HeinzG]

So u believe we won the war because monks chanted pirith, went to protest at mavil aru? We won because of our army and MR, GR and SF. Do u really believe gov waited until monks go and protest in mavil aru to go to war? Gov has been getting ready for war. SF and GR made the defence and military ready and MR and BR made the international forces read. Once the military and diplomatic fronts were made ready they went to war. Mavil Aru was just an excuse. I know monks try to use the war victory for their own advantages. That is to deceive the gullible public like u.

The soldiers in battle front did far more service than a monk with a placard.

Who readied the people to vote for Mahinda? Who readied the people for the war? You have clearly stated that "SF and GR made the defence and military ready and MR and BR made the international forces read." But you failed to mention who made the general public ready for the war. The monks may not have 100% responsible but they played a vital role. At least accept it.

And do you think chanting pirith at a battlefield is a small thing? Dude you should understand that it was this pirith that saved Vavuniya in 1999/2000.

SL began in 1948. The country that began in 48 is a country of many communities. Don’t relate pre existing historical conditions. There were many Buddhist kingdoms in SL, also hindu kingdoms. Once the country got independent it is a new country of S/T/M/B. Sri Lanka is not a Buddhist country, it is a multi religious country. Not sure? Have a walk around SL.
By race I meant the tamil, Sinhala, moor…cos we were discussing it Also Muslim is not a race. Moor is a race.

Sri Lanka is the umbrella identity of many religions and ethnicities. If to remain as one Sri Lankan identity should reflect all ethnicities and be all inclusive. Naththam venveema thamai. Kawada hari lankawa dekata kadanne koti nemei ogollo wage Sinhala ayama thamai.

SL is began in '48? What the F.. are you talking about? Bugger listen you may want to forget the past. But I don't because there is no future without the past.

Accept the reality. I don't want my country to be like Thailand. Understand.

NO. It is by power devolution that several linguistic people can be united.

That's because those people in India have a historical relationship to India. But in SL it is not the case. The majority of Tamils are recent arrivals from India as well as other minority ethancities. If this is the case Sri Lankans living in Melbourne should have a separate political body to govern themselves.

 

[HeinzG]

Where have I said Sinhalese can’t live in these areas? It is the power devolution I am talking abt. Also I wonder how many Sinhalese would like to go to these areas abandoning their traditional villages, unless economic conditions forced them to.

Economic devolution is what we want. Not power devolution. You understand? Can you understand why Tamils are moving into Sinhalese areas. Do you think they do if their economy is good. Dude we need to strength our economy, then there will be no issue of separation.

Sinhalese too joined in a different stage no. SL is the native land of Sinhalese, tamils, SL moors and burgher, veddha. In south Sinhala civilization flourished while in north Tamil did. Every one is a native.

It's not who joined when. It's the culture they protected and preserved. I being Malayalam origin myself is Sinhalese now because my ancestors adopted Sinhalese culture.

How do you say Tamil culture flourished while in north? Show me how SL Tamil culture is differed from Indian Tamil culture?

Just because Sinhalese are unique in SL, it doesn’t give them a monopoly on SL.

yeah right. Britons don' have monopoly in England. Franks don't have it in France. Germans don't have it in Germany..... Machan..... kunuharupa nokiya hitapan!

 

[Gibbs]

Who readied the people to vote for Mahinda? Who readied the people for the war? You have clearly stated that "SF and GR made the defence and military ready and MR and BR made the international forces read." But you failed to mention who made the general public ready for the war. The monks may not have 100% responsible but they played a vital role. At least accept it.

You need a dose of reality mate.. Maybe you're drunk with nationalist propaganda and chest beating just because our valiant troops defeated one of the most ruthless terror groups in the world.. They did it for the love of the country not for some retarded notion of Sinhala Buddhist hegemony..Ofcause Maha Sanga played a vital role in it.. But not these recently sprouted up racist yellow robed thugs.. Where were these cardboard patriots when border villages were hacked to death by the LTTE?? When brave Moorish intelligent officers and LRRP commandos fought hand to hand combat in the jungles of Vanni along side their brothers??..Were they hiding under their robes?? And also remember we wouldn't have suffered this curse if not for the same kind of militant political monks who all started this nationalist crap in the 1950's..Those people were no worse than racist Ealmists sprouting Dravidian superiority with violence everywhere

And do you think chanting pirith at a battlefield is a small thing? Dude you should understand that it was this pirith that saved Vavuniya in 1999/2000.

How the Fark did chanting pirith save Vavuniya you bugger?? I'm wondering if it's even worth discussing anything sane with a person clearly living in a lala land.. And it's insult to claim such a thing for the brave soldiers that defended the place

SL is began in '48? What the F.. are you talking about? Bugger listen you may want to forget the past. But I don't because there is no future without the past.

Accept the reality. I don't want my country to be like Thailand. Understand.

Ofcause SL began in '48..Before that it was Ceylon,Zeylan,Taprobane,Serendip,Ilangei,Lanka and Thambapanni..You actually need to learn the real history before trying to chest beat about it

That's because those people in India have a historical relationship to India. But in SL it is not the case. The majority of Tamils are recent arrivals from India as well as other minority ethancities. If this is the case Sri Lankans living in Melbourne should have a separate political body to govern themselves.

Let me tell you something nobody can divide SL but the Sinhalese..You're the 75% of the population of this country..And i'm afraid with likewise people like you..That separation campaign may have already begun..You and your militant monks will succeed what LTTE couldn't for 30 years

Think with your brain bro..It's still not too late for Sri Lanka.. Lets not make it a religo facist failed state