Sri Lankan Govt. to amend Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act

[Godman]

I never justified any rape, you just threw out the accusation. You legitimately don't know what rape means lol.

You made a hypothetical scenario of a 12 year old girl marrying a man older than 18. So I made my own scenario of two 12 year olds marrying.

You were trying to justify your stance by saying it will prevent muslim girls from committing suicide and being burnt alive by their husbands. You probably don't have a good view of Islam or Muslims anyway since you view us as oppressors of women.

I legitimately don't care what you think of us. We are Muslims and you are not. You will never accept some of our beliefs and we will never accept some of yours. Ultimately this will result in arguments.

Learn the meaning of statutory rape without showing your idiocy.
You even shamelessly said statutory rape is alright as there are contraceptives to stop pregnancies of minors.

It is you who are accepting that statutory rape, pedophilia and child marriages are an integral part of Islamic belief. You are saving the time of Islamophobes when you willingly become an example for all of their arguments against Islam.

 

[namefield_empty]

You are instantly starting this with a very bias mindset and trying to frame yourself as a defender of girls and women.

OTOH, i am discussing with you from a scientific standpoint. Risks of pregnancy related diseases and disorders like eclampsia, endometritis, puerperal and systemic infections is manifold higher in those under 18 years of age compared to those above 20.

For the baby too, prevalence of low birth weight, pre term delivery and maturation disorders is higher than older age group.

Nutritional deficiencies manifest earlier in such adolescent, often causing miscarriages and congenital malformations in the newborn.

There are of course, economic and social consequences like i have said before; like educational underachievement, adverse economic effects in the family leading to domestic violence and abuse.

Cats and dogs lose half their litters to early pregnancy, human beings in the 21st century mustn't be put through such torture.

 

[Numerous]

Learn the meaning of statutory rape without showing your idiocy.
You even shamelessly said statutory rape is alright as there are contraceptives to stop pregnancies of minors.

It is you who are accepting that statutory rape, pedophilia and child marriages are an integral part of Islamic belief. You are saving the time of Islamophobes when you willingly become an example for all of their arguments against Islam.

My example was of two 12 year old so technically it's not statutory rape as that would be between a minor and a non-minor.

Lol come to the west. These guys here are mostly fine with their 12, 13, 14 year old kids dating and having (safe) sex. These are the people who you guys emulate.

OTOH, i am discussing with you from a scientific standpoint. Risks of pregnancy related diseases and disorders like eclampsia, endometritis, puerperal and systemic infections is manifold higher in those under 18 years of age compared to those above 20.

For the baby too, prevalence of low birth weight, pre term delivery and maturation disorders is higher than older age group.

Nutritional deficiencies manifest earlier in such adolescent, often causing miscarriages and congenital malformations in the newborn.

There are of course, economic and social consequences like i have said before; like educational underachievement, adverse economic effects in the family leading to domestic violence and abuse.

Cats and dogs lose half their litters to early pregnancy, human beings in the 21st century mustn't be put through such torture.

I don't knowwhat OTOH is but you certainly weren't talking about science in that previous post, you asked about legislation and then made the insult about baby factories etc...

Don't worry, we're in the 21st century now. We have condoms and other contraception. Plenty of people below 18 have sex and don't get pregnant. If pregnancies are your problem than you as a non-Muslim can push things like contraception without preventing young people from having sex.

Plenty of western non-Muslims can handle being in a relationship at young ages. Are you inferior to them? So much so that your people can't do it.

 

[namefield_empty]

Don't worry, we're in the 21st century now. We have condoms and other contraception.

Yes, i forgot to include that in my earlier post. Numerous studies have revealed that the use of contraceptives is lowest in the age group of under 18, hence the most unwanted pregnancies in that group. I could start by listing the causes thereof, but there is no use explaining such intricate details to a headstrong individual.

 

[Godman]

My example was of two 12 year old so technically it's not statutory rape as that would be between a minor and a non-minor.

Lol come to the west. These guys here are mostly fine with their 12, 13, 14 year old kids dating and having (safe) sex. These are the people who you guys emulate.

Yeak let's justify laws allowing statutory rape by taking another example without statutory rape.

You are showing your lack of intelligence by claiming humans learning about human relationships and sexuality as an excuse to push them into marriage. I guess if a child enters school they should be suddenly pushed to university entrance exams and thrown to a job because they started education.
They are learning about society and relationships and that doesn't make them suitable to be suddenly thrown into long term commitments. You are unable to understand that and you claim to have gone to medical school? Explains the wacky doctors like the HIV/AIDS guy in Pakistan

 

[Numerous]

Yes, i forgot to include that in my earlier post. Numerous studies have revealed that the use of contraceptives is lowest in the age group of under 18, hence the most unwanted pregnancies in that group. I could start by listing the causes thereof, but there is no use explaining such intricate details to a headstrong individual.

It's oright those pregnancy numbers aren't substantially high. Increasing access to contraceptives and more education about contraceptives will lower the number if you're worried about it. Whether you increase them or not, either way, young teens are going to having sex, way more so in countries that are non-Muslim and are becoming more liberal over time. So it's a problem you'll have to deal with.

The main bad thing about that is the two people are normally just in a non-committed relationship so the baby throws a spanner in the works. Whereas in a marriage, an unwanted pregnancy will have less negative impact, both for the couple & their family.

 

[halupridol]

@Axomiya_lora
Ihotok koi bujai labh nai,,such ppl use religion, pseudoscience n trivial logic to justify thr inner lust as morally correct.
Just luk at how this guy is trying to justify child marriage/pedophilia.
it seems marriage for this guy is only n solely abt SEX. he is on abt how 12yrs old r having sex in West,,no point engaging,,,, baad dia be,,, ihotor eku nohobo.

 

[Numerous]

@Axomiya_lora
Ihotok koi bujai labh nai,,such ppl use religion, pseudoscience n trivial logic to justify thr inner lust as morally correct.
Just luk at how this guy is trying to justify child marriage/pedophilia.
it seems marriage for this guy is only n solely abt SEX. he is on abt how 12yrs old r having sex in West,,no point engaging,,,, baad dia be,,, ihotor eku nohobo.

You're from India, you can call me morally corrupt but I'm pretty sure most indians are way more morally corrupt than me lol.

My point is that normally people who oppose young teens marrying, come from countries where they are perfectly fine with their own young teens being in relationships or having sex etc... These are the countries who you are seeking to emulate. If the west didn't have similar marriage age laws, then you wouldn't either, you are simply following them.

These boyfriend girlfriend relationships that people have, they have many of the same things as marriage does - love, companionship, intercourse etc... So why do these people allow one thing (relationships) but suddenly become uncomfortable when someone says let them marry?

Of course marriage is far superior than a bf/gf situation.

 

[namefield_empty]

@Axomiya_lora
Ihotok koi bujai labh nai,,such ppl use religion, pseudoscience n trivial logic to justify thr inner lust as morally correct.
Just luk at how this guy is trying to justify child marriage/pedophilia.
it seems marriage for this guy is only n solely abt SEX. he is on abt how 12yrs old r having sex in West,,no point engaging,,,, baad dia be,,, ihotor eku nohobo.

Hosakoi ihotor mur'ot gubor humai ase , thik koise apuni, mur phalor pora baad dilu

They want 12 year olds to get married and then resist the temptations to give in to their urges and use contraception. Vabi sauk ebar...

 

[halupridol]

You're from India, you can call me morally corrupt but I'm pretty sure most indians are way more morally corrupt than me lol.

My point is that normally people who oppose young teens marrying, come from countries where they are perfectly fine with their own young teens being in relationships or having sex etc... These are the countries who you are seeking to emulate. If the west didn't have similar marriage age laws, then you wouldn't either, you are simply following them.

These boyfriend girlfriend relationships that people have, they have many of the same things as marriage does - love, companionship, intercourse etc... So why do these people allow one thing (relationships) but suddenly become uncomfortable when someone says let them marry?

Of course marriage is far superior than a bf/gf situation.

Yes,,im from India,,moreover a hindu,,,still in darkness,u know, ignorant of many things. So kindly bear with me.
What u said is true, , I agree.
It's already corroborated scientifically, allowed religiously n proven logically tht 12yrs olds shud be allowed to be married off,, otherwise they may have SEX, n become prostitutes. Ekdum solid way of thought
U r one intelligent bhayya.
Let's end it here.
My view on the topic- there country, there rules

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Do you mean, you are in medical profession and still beleive that girl should marry at 13 to avoid pre marital sex???

If educated peoplw like you have opinion of such kind, i feel bad that we are blaming poor talibanis..
@Peaceful Civilian

Serious religious people can easily fall in this. No shortage of people.

 

[halupridol]

Serious religious people can easily fall in this. No shortage of people.

Not religious ppl but ppl who twist everything including religion to suit thr agenda

 

[CHN Bamboo]

Making marriage harder just makes zina easier.

I imagine those Muslim woman organisations are filled to the brim with feminists.

In China, the law stipulates that only men over 22 and women over 20 can get married.
This is not what feminists do.
Prohibiting Child Marriage is a must for any modern government.

Girls at this age should devote all their attention to learning, not marriage.
Only then can they make greater contributions to economic development.

 

[Numerous]

Yes,,im from India,,moreover a hindu,,,still in darkness,u know, ignorant of many things. So kindly bear with me.
What u said is true, , I agree.
It's already corroborated scientifically, allowed religiously n proven logically tht 12yrs olds shud be allowed to be married off,, otherwise they may have SEX, n become prostitutes. Ekdum solid way of thought
U r one intelligent bhayya.
Let's end it here.
My view on the topic- there country, there rules

I don't think all hindus would oppose my view. I think the problem is that as you're becoming liberalised, you're taking up more laws from the goray and attempting to be like them because you view them as the higher civilisation.

I never said anything about prostitutes etc. You should try reading what I type rather than using your imagination.

In China, the law stipulates that only men over 22 and women over 20 can get married.
This is not what feminists do.
Prohibiting Child Marriage is a must for any modern government.

Girls at this age should devote all their attention to learning, not marriage.
Only then can they make greater contributions to economic development.

And what have your marriage laws and child policies resulted in?
Chinese men resulting to depravity such as trafficking women from all across asia to China. Mass abortions. A gender ratio which is one sided.

Don't get me wrong but communists are literally no better than feminists. They are both wrecked up groups who noone should be taking social policy laws from.

There are greater things in life than economic development.

 

[Godman]

And what have your marriage laws and child policies resulted in?
Chinese men resulting to depravity such as trafficking women from all across asia to China. Mass abortions. A gender ratio which is one sided.

There are greater things in life than economic development.

Statutory rape and child marriages are not depraved?