Sri Lanka to rename Indian origin Tamils as Sri Lankans

[doremon]

srilankans u can rename ur citizens with whatever name u like ..no prob

 

[A1Kaid]

Prove it?!!
Enough of ur BS, just like your statements. Malaysian Indians are one of the High income groups in Malaysia. YOur words are absolute BS here.
You might be refering to various labourers working in Malaysia from India.

Wrong Rajaraja, the Malay and Chinese communities in Malaysia are prosperous the Indian community is poor and discriminated.

Malaysian Indians committing suicide due to low income: High Indian suicide rate because low income Indians excluded from national mainstream development of Malaysia by UMNO. | Human Rights Party Malaysia

Forgotten Community - Many of Malaysia's poor are Indians

Like many Indians, the family lives in a rented plywood shack in Kampung Lindungan, a crime-ridden squatter colony 10km south of the city. The children attend school intermittently and one son, 14, has spent time in the police lock-up after a gang fight.

Malaysia's upward mobility is the bane of Indian poor | South China Morning Post


In fact in Malaysia Indians are regarded as the "Third class race".

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Wrong Rajaraja, the Malay and Chinese communities in Malaysia are prosperous the Indian community is poor and discriminated.

Malaysian Indians committing suicide due to low income: High Indian suicide rate because low income Indians excluded from national mainstream development of Malaysia by UMNO. | Human Rights Party Malaysia

Forgotten Community - Many of Malaysia's poor are Indians





Malaysia's upward mobility is the bane of Indian poor | South China Morning Post


In fact in Malaysia Indians are regarded as the "Third class race".

Making me laugh really. I have lots of relatives, citizens of malaysia, working over there. Ha ha..!! There is discrimination towards labourers from India, i kniw that. But what u say is I am unheard of. I don need links to know the truth there.

 

[IndoCarib]

Good move by SL. A step towards equal rights to Tamils and imbibing them into national mainstream.

 

[Gibbs]

Good move by SL. A step towards equal rights to Tamils and imbibing them into national mainstream.

This is not a question about equal rights.. Every single Sri Lankan is equal under the constitution, It has always been, Certain short sighted discriminatory policies of certain govts is another matter which can happen in any country
that deals with popular politics

Plantation Tamils(Indian origin) has always been in the national mainstream it's them that the PM is talking about NOT Ethnic Tamils who's certain segments are for separation.. So there is no question of them been "imbibed"

 

[kurup]

Good move by Sri Lanka ......

 

[nair]

This is one of the smart moves i have seen from Srilanka..... Hope this move gives good results....

 

[Saradiel]

so
1) the separatist movement was not from indian origin tamils but ethnic tamils
2) the ethnic tamils treated the indian origin tamils as lesser caste

kind of puts a new twist on my understanding of the SL LTTE issue.

there are a lot of grey areas dude...media never give a true picture rather a truth that is beneficial to them

For your info , Dravida nadu didnt have many takers even within their party and among the people of TN. And Dont blame your problems on us. Sinhalese chauvinist created a problem that made indian politicians to intervene? Are u just refusing that?

And Tamils in Malay, Singapore are living good enough. If people in the past hadnt done mistakes, am sure LTTE wouldnt have formed as well

in Malaysia they have Bhoomiputhra law favoring native Malays. They may have their own reasons for that.
In Singapore ppl are ruled by an iron hand, actually SL is a better democracy than Singapore.
And also Tamils in Singapore didnt claim a historical habitat and a part for them like they did in SL. SO SL and Singapore cannot be compared when it comes to Tamils.

Hindraf was a peacefull organisation of protest group! Can u prove one news they are involved in terrorism? Pls dont spread BS here. I have lot of relatives over in Malaysia and Singapore over Generations and they had their challenges, but everything is good now.
You need to save that holier than thou facade. Dont comment on things you dont know.
Another info, Singapore had their President as Tamil till a few years ago, he just retired to give other members in his party a chance. So there is no way, they could control with Iron fist there. There is a sense of equality there. But not here in SL, and unfortunately, not in TN as well.

In Singapore there is as much as equality as in a members of a big corporate org.

I welcome the initiative of the Prime Minister Shri DM Jayaratne of Sri Lanka to bring the Indian origin plantation workers as Sri Lankan citizens. South Asians are very conscious of skin colour to the extent using face lightening cream.To me all Singalese and Tamils whichever part of Sri Lanka are the same- when I was there in the 1980's , I mixed with Sri Lankans of all ethnic group-no distinction whatever in skin colour except Jaffna Tamils have a higher ego. Income,education and social makeup leads to discrimation.
ALL SHOULD WELCOME THE PM'S INITIATIVE.Big Thanks.God Bless Sri Lanka

That also was a part of the problem!

Making me laugh really. I have lots of relatives, citizens of malaysia, working over there. Ha ha..!! There is discrimination towards labourers from India, i kniw that. But what u say is I am unheard of. I don need links to know the truth there.

And i can show you many well of Tamil businessmen, professionals from SL.

 

[HeinzG]

so
1) the separatist movement was not from indian origin tamils but ethnic tamils
2) the ethnic tamils treated the indian origin tamils as lesser caste

kind of puts a new twist on my understanding of the SL LTTE issue.

There's no ethnic Tamils in Sri Lanka..... for the most part..... all most all are immigrant from India for the past 500 years.

For you second point if they consider state Tamils lesser caste there's no wonder how they treat Sinhalese.

 

[Sliver]

There's no ethnic Tamils in Sri Lanka..... for the most part..... all most all are immigrant from India for the past 500 years.

For you second point if they consider state Tamils lesser caste there's no wonder how they treat Sinhalese.

The opening post clearly states a tussle between "ethnic" tamils and indian tamils. You say there are no ethnic tamils. I am at a loss. Please explain.

Also, the opening post says SL tamils (or ethnic tamils) treat indian tamils as lower castes and not vice versa.

500 years is a long time to consider someone to be non-ethnic. If you go back long enough time, almost everyone is an immigrant. What is your decision point to call someone "not a sri lankan" even after staying in the place for 500 years.

 

[Gibbs]

The opening post clearly states a tussle between "ethnic" tamils and indian tamils. You say there are no ethnic tamils. I am at a loss. Please explain.

Also, the opening post says SL tamils (or ethnic tamils) treat indian tamils as lower castes and not vice versa.

500 years is a long time to consider someone to be non-ethnic. If you go back long enough time, almost everyone is an immigrant. What is your decision point to call someone "not a sri lankan" even after staying in the place for 500 years.

That's a personal opinion.. Without much factual evidence.. There is indeed a ethnic Sri Lankan Tamil population.. They have been living mainly in the northern Jaffna peninsular for over a millennia.. and through the passing centuries more arrived through invasions and migration

But majority of the current Tamil population in the North(mainland not the peninsular) and East are descended from indentured labor bought over by the Dutch for Tobacco plantations in the 16th century mainly consists of Malayali and Telingu people who were later assimilated or "Tamilised"

The so called Indian origin Tamils or Plantation Tamils that this thread focus's on are Later arrivals in the British colonial era from Tamil Nadu, Mainly as slave labor for the coffee and tea plantations in the central highlands of then Ceylon.. These particular Tamils never participated in the separatist campaign of the northern Tamils

Hope this clarifies

FYI if the above argument goes even the Sinhalese are not ethnic to the island because they too arrived 2500 years ago according to written, oral and physical archeological evidence

In any case that argument in void because anybody born on the soil of the country invariably becomes ethnic to the nation, It does not matter if they're born yesterday or a thousand years ago

 

[kurup]

FYI if the above argument goes even the Sinhalese are not ethnic to the island because they too arrived 2500 years ago according to written, oral and physical archeological evidence

Sinhalese arrived from where ??

 

[HeinzG]

Sinhalese arrived from where ??

Sinhalese didn't arrive from anywhere. It was different types of elasticities that ultimately made Sinhalese in Sri Lanka. So Sinhalese didn't arrive from any where there ancestors arrived from India. (those ancestors weren't Sinhalese)

 

[kurup]

Sinhalese didn't arrive from anywhere. It was different types of elasticities that ultimately made Sinhalese in Sri Lanka. So Sinhalese didn't arrive from any where there ancestors arrived from India. (those ancestors weren't Sinhalese)

OK but your friend @Gibbs was telling otherwise .

So who arrived first in Srilanka ?? Ancestors of sinhalese or ancestors of ethnic Srilankan tamils ???

 

[Gibbs]

Sinhalese arrived from where ??

Well according to the written, oral and genealogical evidence the forbearers of the Sinhalese race first migrated from what's now Gujarat and Punjab.. But it's plausible that much larger migrations later was primarily from what's now Eastern India Bengal and Orissa.. But this is not to say that there was a race of aboriginals already on the island when these settlers arrived