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Why should I be blamed for somebody else's actions. Make sense dude.
If you sell yourself as Muslim and show identify with muslim community then any actions within that diverse community will impact you. It's simple logic. So if a Afghan or a Indian Muslim ora Somali do something crazy your gonna get the can for it. However if you identify yourself as Pakistani then what they do has no bearing on you.

It's like when that Groid convert Richard Reid the shoe bomber did his crazy thing I told all my English colleagues "noffin to do with me, he is a Groid and I am Pakistani". I told them if a crazy Christian Rwandan does something or some Brazilian gangsta or Jamaican Yardie do I look at them for explaination just because they are Christians??
 
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Sad incident ... What is this a terrorist from outside or within?
US should start enlist and declare such person on terrorists list in UN as well as in her own list. This is the writing on the wall.
 
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If you sell yourself as Muslim and show identify with muslim community then any actions within that diverse community will impact you. It's simple logic. So if a Afghan or a Indian Muslim ora Somali do something crazy your gonna get the can for it. However if you identify yourself as Pakistani then what they do has no bearing on you.

It's like when that Groid convert Richard Reid the shoe bomber did his crazy thing I told all my English colleagues "noffin to do with me, he is a Groid and I am Pakistani". I told them if a crazy Christian Rwandan does something or some Brazilian gangsta or Jamaican Yardie do I look at them for explaination just because they are Christians??



My sentiments exactly. Although I am a Muslim myself, I no longer use Muslim/Islam as my identity. I personally identify with Pakistan or "Pakistani". Islam/Muslim is too diverse to be used as an identity. Hence it shouldn't. Islam itself is a religion and way of life, not a label or discerning factor.
 
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My sentiments exactly. Although I am a Muslim myself, I no longer use Muslim/Islam as my identity. I personally identify with Pakistan or "Pakistani". Islam/Muslim is too diverse to be used as an identity. Hence it shouldn't. Islam itself is a religion and way of life, not a label or discerning factor.
I am Pakistani. My faith is Islam. I am brown. I am male. etc The defining aspect is being Pakistani. rest just qualify the first.
 
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Is freedom of possessing firearms worth more than tens of thousands of human live being killed by guns every year in US?

I am not a gun nut, I've actually never shot a gun in my life, but blaming guns on these mass killings is like blaming cars for the all those mass rammings. China has strict gun controls, but there have been mass stabbings and even recently some pissed off guy drove into a crowd. The USA is an ultra violent culture, how can it not be when their government threatens countries, either obey or we'll bomb you back to the stone age. Mix with all the rightwing conspiracies, a President who tells his followers to attack opponents, he'll cover the legal fees, and you're bound to have a bunch of violent nutjobs. Unfortunely, 'Murica is the global hegemon and its violent culture spreads throughout the globe.
 
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RIP to the victim

People here seems to ignore two thingss.

Muslim Extremistism, or what you called "Brown Terrorist" is no where near the number of terrorist incident report by the FBI per decade.

Have you heard of Cesar Sayoc? He is a Hispanic Anarchist terrorist which mailed 11 pipe bomb to federal and political office last week, chances are you probably never even heard of him unless you follow US local news.

Or name like Jerry and Joseph Kane, Joe Stack and so on, you probably don't know all these people but they are all afflicated to domestic terrorism. Just that becuase they didn't kill many people, you probably never heard of them internationally.

Muslim Terroristism is on the rise, but still no where near the level of Domestic Terrorist group such as Anarchist movement and anti-government movement.

Second thing I want to say is that the right to bear arms is not an issue here, many country allowed what US allowed in term of procession of weapon, many more country have a even lax law than the US, but you don't see them (Canada, Sweden, Norway, France, Netherland) having mass shooting event like America.

The underlying problem with this is the people, not the guns, you can take away the guns and as long as these people and their grievance and their problem are not going away, you will still have Mass Casualty Event

Focus on the people, not the gun.
 
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If you sell yourself as Muslim and show identify with muslim community then any actions within that diverse community will impact you. It's simple logic. So if a Afghan or a Indian Muslim ora Somali do something crazy your gonna get the can for it. However if you identify yourself as Pakistani then what they do has no bearing on you.

It's like when that Groid convert Richard Reid the shoe bomber did his crazy thing I told all my English colleagues "noffin to do with me, he is a Groid and I am Pakistani". I told them if a crazy Christian Rwandan does something or some Brazilian gangsta or Jamaican Yardie do I look at them for explaination just because they are Christians??
Well your human so you'd better start apologising for this guy, he was human too.

Utter tosh.
 
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RIP to the victim

People here seems to ignore two thingss.

Muslim Extremistism, or what you called "Brown Terrorist" is no where near the number of terrorist incident report by the FBI per decade.

Have you heard of Cesar Sayoc? He is a Hispanic Anarchist terrorist which mailed 11 pipe bomb to federal and political office last week, chances are you probably never even heard of him unless you follow US local news.

Or name like Jerry and Joseph Kane, Joe Stack and so on, you probably don't know all these people but they are all afflicated to domestic terrorism. Just that becuase they didn't kill many people, you probably never heard of them internationally.

Muslim Terroristism is on the rise, but still no where near the level of Domestic Terrorist group such as Anarchist movement and anti-government movement.

Second thing I want to say is that the right to bear arms is not an issue here, many country allowed what US allowed in term of procession of weapon, many more country have a even lax law than the US, but you don't see them (Canada, Sweden, Norway, France, Netherland) having mass shooting event like America.

The underlying problem with this is the people, not the guns, you can take away the guns and as long as these people and their grievance and their problem are not going away, you will still have Mass Casualty Event

Focus on the people, not the gun.

I got to read a report few years ago, who explained US drastic shift to "Islam related Terrorism" in the past 2 decades, whatever in Manpower or/And Budget, That drained the "Minds"/"Assets" etc... from the good old US Terros services.
That report spoke about the resurgence of those same local Terro groups, who took that shift as an opportunity to regroup/Adapt their Ideology and get Positive "Public" perception.
They compared them with ISIS 's "Traversée du Desert" and their resurgence phase.

The Conclusion highlights the same problems that was facing the US/Europe services with ISIS take over in SY/IQ and those groups. Where reorganization of those past US Security Services will take almost a Decade if Everything goes as planned.

As for your "Arm bearing" Opinion, I may give a Different opinion. Having no guns, will decrease drastically the number of causalities. Drastically Tightening the access to bear a gun will Decrease the probability to end up in the wrong hands.
Yes, The work should be focused on People But the problem is not with the sane one, who will not act... or not have a gun but the minority pool who could get pass the net. It's almost impossible with the available manpower/budget to check individually every citizen who wish to get a permit, many are prone to act in certain situation in their life while never been involved in an event that will require them to get redirected to X or Y medical/Psychological services and therefore not being put in that " Black List".

And Last. The causalities involved with a Rifle is Different from a Gun who is also Different from a Knife. If you can't stop X or Y individual to act, you can decrease the casualities.
As for your Examples, like Sweden/Norway/France etc... Most of them banned Rifle ownership and a HandGun/Carabine permit is extremely difficult to get, You also have multiple checkups/Formations/Training as long as you've got your permit. But ofc it isn't perfect, But I think it's working according to the "almost" non existent event involving "Legal" Arms.

The US, shall change her Gun Laws, their is no debate about it... If ofc they want things to change. But it's a Difficult task, since it isn't just a "Lobby" thing or a Political conspiracy... But US citizen themselves, even those who do not have arms see that Guns transcend Laws and therefore put it into the "Cultural" Realm. And as every Way of Life... You can't impose a Drastic view, neither a Complete removal in a short period of Time.
 
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I know. But I was making the point to "Mr Muslim". If one of those Rakia drinkers went awol Mr Muslim would be there to pick the blame.

lol. Ask the world what comes to mind when you mention Pakistan.

*terrorism*

I am Pakistani. My faith is Islam. I am brown. I am male. etc The defining aspect is being Pakistani. rest just qualify the first.

Bosnians do love their Rakia I live close to a Sports Bar owned by a Croatian dude and whenever there is match from one the Balkan states or Bosnia all those Rakia and beer drinkers there anyways I get your point

And not all Pakistanis are Brown tho lol
 
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I am not a gun nut, I've actually never shot a gun in my life, but blaming guns on these mass killings is like blaming cars for the all those mass rammings. China has strict gun controls, but there have been mass stabbings and even recently some pissed off guy drove into a crowd. The USA is an ultra violent culture, how can it not be when their government threatens countries, either obey or we'll bomb you back to the stone age. Mix with all the rightwing conspiracies, a President who tells his followers to attack opponents, he'll cover the legal fees, and you're bound to have a bunch of violent nutjobs. Unfortunely, 'Murica is the global hegemon and its violent culture spreads throughout the globe.
It's true that there are mentally sick people everywhere and China also has a fair share of them, but think about what if the knife attacking become mass shooting, the casualties will soar through the ceiling, how many people are stabbed to death in China and how many killed by guns in US every year?
It's not right to compare cars with guns, cars are designed to drive while guns are designed to kill.
 
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