oh its clear now you have exactly
ZERO idea of what you are taking about, a flanker, such as the su-30 or su-27 or its chinese variants, j--11/B, has 3000-3500 km range, more than enough to take off from hainan and have sufficient loiter time over the scs(distance of about 1000 km). now vietnam has 34(su-30 and su-27) current with 12 more (su-30) on order, PLAAF on the other hand flys close to 300 flanker variants, and the PLAN as an additional 70ish(and increasing). China can
easily put a sizable fleet in the air over the SCS, and it doesn't even have to be all of them, not even close, just 20% of the chinese flanker force is more than twice of what vietnam operates. therefore you claim is completely wrong.
The distant between Hainan to the Spatly is about 1500 km while the combat range of the Flankers and its variants is 2000 km; 3000+ km is just ferry range. Yes, you will need serious refuel to go to Spratly. Hence, you can only put a limited # of jets all in once at the same time which will limit your numerical superiority over us. And get real please, you have more jets but many more enemies to deal with and more territory to guard. If there is military conflict, it will be between the Guangzhou Military District's airforce at most. My estimate is that at best you can put 10 jets all in once at the same time.
Does it look to you like we're losing sleep over your airforce having any kind of advantage over us in the Spratly? Had we converted 6 submarines into 60 Flankers, we would have had 96 Flankers at the moment but we chose not to because your airforce was never viewed as the biggest threat to us.
who on earth said, they would fly close to the vietnamese coast? and the chinese navy can sink the entire vietnamese navy then have your air force for dessert. with a large number of 054A and 052C and soon 052D which far out ranges the KH-59ME(export) version which vietnam operates,(~120km range), the hhq-9 on the 052c max range is 200km in other words, those su-22s would never get close enough to launch any missiles worth worrying about. ur migs are even more laughable, mig-21/j-7 are known for their short legs, they can at best go 500km before having to turn back, if u wanna get into battle at all, the range is far shorter than 500km, which makes then good for point defence, not so good for attacking out to sea.
Who told you that the Kh-59MK is 120 km?. The Russian sold us the Yakhont at 300 km so you would better believe that the Kh-50mk is 285 km. The Migs21 can carry two a2a missiles to attack you while you are doing refueling or on your one way mission back to base, my friend
Do you know how the curvature of the earth blocks radar detection range? If our Su22 fly at 200 meters above sea level, your radar can only pick us up at 80 km. At that range, we're already in the range of the KH-31 missiles to launch at your ship http://members.home.nl/7seas/radcalc.htm You want to talk about how your navy can sink our navy in a ship to ship engagement? Sorry to disappoint you but the curvature of the earth won't allow your radar to pick us up earlier and vice versa. In a ship to ship engagement, our missile boats can fire 16 kh-35 missiles at you and God helps you if you can engage those missiles from all directions
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oh lol. is that what you think? the subs are 1000x more survivable in a naval war with china than any of your jets, because if those jets take off, they're not going back home. while the subs at least have a chance if they keep quiet, and china still has a weak link in the form of its asw capabilities compared with its advances in other areas.
Ok, our subs can use to launch anti-ship missiles then.
hahah, you are getting funnier and funnier, you plan to use a land based rocket system with 150km range to strike at targets 500km+ away? just how delusional are you? the reason china can park a s-300/hq-9 system in the islands is because its safe from other forms of attack, namely attacks from naval ships, given the vast PLAN superiority over the vietnamese navy, any s-300 system you park on an island is going to be toast, not by planes but by attacks from ships, and china doesnt need to park any such system really, cause the 052c carrys the naval version of the hq-9 anyways.
Since you mention that you're going to put your SAMs on the Spartly reefs, I can tell you that a 150km rocket can take them out with ease because all the reefs/islands in this area are very close to each other, sometimes just a few nautical miles apart. We can park our S-300 on the Spratly to provide extra air cover for our airforce while you hopelessly trying to park your SAM on a congested reefs; good luck with that
so to sum it up.
vietnam has about zero advantages once we are 300km or so away from its coast
your missiles dont have the range
you navy cant protect your islands
your airforce cant achieve any kind of air supirority
ps: stop confusing what the soviet/russians operate with what they export(downgraded) to vietnam, there is a huge difference.
