South China Sea Forum

[Star Expedition]

Little man is good at skipping his own comment when pointing at Chinese
But one thing i finally agree with him China is proud of the Millennium Domination of VN (totally agree)

There are 2 kinds of histories on the earth： the real one and the created one.
We are really not good at the latter.

 

[terranMarine]

There are 2 kinds of histories on the earth： the real one and the created one.
We are really not good at the latter.

You are right, when Viets claimed they kicked the Americans out or won the Vietnam War, you know it's a fabrication. The World knows the Americans went home by themselves, they did not surrender all due to Chinese assistance.

Please be careful with your choice of words. Thank you.

Absolutely, I totally understand the frustrations are too much for these poor fragile souls to bear. I shall try to seal the truth as tight as possible but they will have to cooperate otherwise I can't promise the onslaught -> truth unleashed upon their sanity (what's left of it that is after what the mighty one had inflicted upon them during those 2 dreadful decades)

 

[Radical101]

There was a documentary about an island in South China Sea in 1960s when Vietnam tried to defend it by placing aggressive 89 Vietnam soldiers. So the story goes one day Chinese might of military came confronted them & killed all of them in one hour. Now who is Vietnam to bully south China Sea even with all coalition trouble monger's stirring up?

 

[cochine]

You are right, when Viets claimed they kicked the Americans out or won the Vietnam War you know it's a fabrication. The World knows the Americans went home by themselves, they did not surrender all due to Chinese assistance.

Yes, both of you American and Chinese were went home voluntarily and freely in 1973 and 1979.

 

[terranMarine]

Yes, both of you American and Chinese were went home voluntarily and freely in 1973 and 1979.

Absolutely, Viets also went back home voluntarily from the Sea skirmish with China. Some of you wanted to stay permanently in the depth of the SCS so China granted them their wish

 

[cochine]

Absolutely, Viets also went back home voluntarily from the Sea skirmish with China. Some of you wanted to stay permanently in the depth of the SCS so China granted them their wish

 

[terranMarine]

@kecho is that it? when no more argument or bashed so hard by Chinese you make repetitive posts.

 

[TaiShang]

Peacification, not militarization. This is China's strategy in SCS. But, we need to ensure enough check on the mad militarist empire that is tremendously unstable these days.

Peace is the antithesis of the mad empire in our region.

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Beijing, Southeast Asian Neighbors Report ‘Progress’ on South China Sea Deal

01:10 05.04.2017(updated 03:57 05.04.2017)

Fiery disagreements over the South China Sea may soon start to cool down, as Beijing and an association of nearby countries inch closer to a settlement for civil maritime conduct.

The Association of Southeastern Asian Nations (ASEAN) has made "progress" on reaching an accord in the South China Sea, according to the Philippines’ Foreign Ministry, and a final agreement could be made as soon as August.

Rating their progress, Philippine Acting Foreign Minister Enrique Manalo said "we are at a very high level" since communications on a code of conduct in the South China Sea began in January.

"I think China still believes, is still in the position that [the code of conduct] shouldn’t be legally binding," Manalo said. This could become a sticking point, as Manalo thinks there should be a clause that makes the new code obligatory.

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Beijing Outmaneuvering US Navy in South China Sea

Alternatively, China could be using the legally binding clause to improve its leverage in the negotiation process. From a deliberations standpoint, "it’s a little bit early to say," Manalo said on Monday.

The diplomat was optimistic that half of the elements within the code of conduct have been agreed upon by China and ASEAN. "We were starting from zero in January," he says. On March 7, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi announced the completion of an initial draft for the code.

Beijing has insisted that arguments over claims in the South China Sea should be left to nations in the immediate region, without Western intervention. The ASEAN nations include Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.

A host of countries have expressed disdain for what they claim is China’s militarization of islets in the South China Sea, which will likely render it a sensitive point as the 11 nations seek convergence on a regional agreement. The group of 14 islets, islands and cays, plus some 100 reefs, comprising the Spratly Island group, for example, is claimed by Taiwan, China, Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia.

Chinese leaders have asserted that its military installments in the Spratly Islands are for routine defense purposes.

 

[Star Expedition]

Vietnam people shows more and more ps crafts everyday.
We are not good at that.
We can only build more and more aircraft carrier combat groups , deploy them in each area in south sea to protect our fish.

 

[terranMarine]

Vietnam people shows more and more ps crafts everyday.
We are not good at that.
We can only build more and more aircraft carrier combat groups , deploy them in each area in south sea to protect our fish.

We do what we are good at, no time to stop need to keep building more

 

[Viet]

Little man is good at skipping his own comment when pointing at Chinese
But one thing i finally agree with him China is proud of the Millennium Domination of VN (totally agree)

Large part of Germany was part of Roman Empire, but unlike the Italians you are constantly talking of Vietnam being part of China.

Can't you move on?

 

[samsara]

Large part of Germany was part of Roman Empire, but unlike the Italians you are constantly talking of Vietnam being part of China.

Can't you move on?

But today's Italy is much smaller than Germany and trailing behind in almost every aspect of life... Italy will become the world's laughing-stock if it ever asserts its past Roman greatness legacy over today's Germany. Besides, today's Italy is just a remnant of the Roman Empire and quickly relegates to a diminishing power, even within the Old Continent boundary itself.

 

[Star Expedition]

But today's Italy is much smaller than Germany and trailing behind in almost every aspect of life... Italy will become the world's laughing-stock if it ever asserts its past Roman greatness legacy over today's Germany. In fact today's Italy is just a remnant of the Roman Empire and quickly relegates to a diminishing power, even within the Old Continent boundary.

We will never win in debate on history.
Simply because most Vietnam people have their homemade history books.

 

[terranMarine]

Large part of Germany was part of Roman Empire, but unlike the Italians you are constantly talking of Vietnam being part of China.

Can't you move on?

Are you holding a mirror? Who is it that keeps barking like a mad dog China was ruled by Mongols, Manchu, Japs, British. They took over China and raped our women that is what you have been repeating all the time. And you are now saying we Chinese are living in the past ?

Excuseeeee me, the one who is suffering from a very serious superiority complex is YOU. You guys are so inferior from the inside that you are constantly bragging about your past glory: "We kicked the French, Chinese, Americans, Mongols out"

 

[Star Expedition]

Turbulence in South China Sea: India Offers Missile to Vietnam
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India is an old friend of Vietnam and both don't subscribe to China's claim in the South China Sea. That is the reason for raised eyebrows over India's offer to supply missiles to Vietnam.
New Delhi (Sputnik) — India has offered to supply indigenously developed Akash missile to Vietnam at a time when both countries are talking of China's growing assertiveness in the Asia-Pacific region.

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India to Test Nuclear-Capable Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missile
In fact, India has been helping Vietnam's defence modernization when it is trying in confrontation with China on the South China Sea issue. It recently underwrote the costs of four patrol boats that it will build especially for Vietnam.


Akash is a medium range air-to-air missile system developed by India's Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO). Akash has the capacity to destroy targets up to 30 km away.

Initially, India will supply the missiles off-the-shelf to Vietnam and could later into a joint production arrangement.

Vietnam has been a close Indian ally in South East Asia and Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Vietnam last year saw both countries elevating their strategic partnership to a comprehensive strategic partnership.

India-Vietnam defense ties are an important aspect of their strategic partnership. Earlier, India had offered to supply naval vessels to Vietnam as well as the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile. India also trains Vietnamese fighter pilots as both countries mainly operate Russian fighter jets.

"It's a part of India-Vietnam defense cooperation. Supplying of Akash missiles by India to Vietnam is very small in caparison to what China had supplied to Pakistan. But it's a beginning," Srikant Kondapalli, Professor of Chinese Studies in Jawahar Lal University in New Delhi told Sputnik.
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201701091049409735-india-vietnam-missile-south-china-sea/

Poor Chinese army.
We have no money to buy.
Even we to buy, they don't have.

SC Justice: Invoke defense treaty with US if China attacks Navy in Scarborough

March 20, 2017 PNA Nation 0

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Supreme Court Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio on Monday made recommendations to President Rodrigo Duterte on how to respond to China’s reported plan to install a radar station in the disputed Panatag or Scarborough Shoal. In a statement, Carpio said the President is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces which is tasked by the Constitution to defend the country’s territory.

He pointed out that under Republic Act 9522 or the Philippines’ Baseline Law, Scarborough Shoal is part of the Philippine territory.

Carpio said since the Philippines is no match to China militarily, the President can fulfill his constitutional duty by doing any, some or all of the following:

1. File a strong formal protest against the Chinese building activity. This is the least that the President should do. This is what the Vietnamese did recently when China sent cruise tours to the disputed Paracels.

2. Send the Philippine Navy to patrol Scarborough Shoal. If the Chinese forces attack Philippine navy vessels, then the President can invoke the Philippines-US Mutual defense Treaty which covers any armed attack on Philippine navy vessels operating in the South China Sea.

3. Ask the United States to declare that Scarborough Shoal is part of Philippine territory for purposes of the Philippines-US Mutual Defense Treaty since the shoal has been part of Philippine territory even during the American colonial period. The US has declared the Senkakus as part of Japanese territory for purposes of the US-Japan mutual defense treaty.

4. Accept the standing US offer to hold joint naval patrols in the South China Sea, which includes Scarborough Shoal. This will demonstrate joint Philippine and US determination to prevent China from building on Scarborough Shoal.

5. Avoid any act, statement or declaration that expressly or impliedly waives Philippine sovereignty to any Philippine territory in the West Philippine Sea. This will preserve for future generations of Filipinos their national patrimony in the West Philippine Sea.

“This will preserve for future generations of Filipinos their natural patrimony in the West Philippine Sea,” Carpio said.

In 2012, China seized Panatag Shoal or the Scarborough Shoal after a standoff between Chinese and Filipino vessels. China is denying Filipino fishermen access to its rich fishing stock.

The Permanent Court of Arbitration ruled that Panatag Shoal is a “common fishing ground” of fishermen not only from the Philippines but also from China and other neighboring countries.
http://www.update.ph/2017/03/sc-jus...us-if-china-attacks-navy-in-scarborough/15984

We PLA is afraid of USA army or international alliance.
Scared...

JAPAN DEPLOYING LARGEST WARSHIP TO SOUTH CHINA SEA
Posted on March 14, 2017

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Japan plans to dispatch its largest warship in South China Sea beginning in May.

According to source, Izumo helicopter carrier, commissioned only two years ago, will make stops in Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Sri Lanka before joining the Malabar joint naval exercise with Indian and U.S. naval vessels in the Indian Ocean in July.

It will return to Japan in August, the sources said.

“The aim is to test the capability of the Izumo by sending it out on an extended mission,” said one of the sources who have knowledge of the plan. “It will train with the U.S. Navy in the South China Sea,” he added, asking not to be identified because he is not authorized to talk to the media.

A spokesman for Japan’s Maritime Self Defense Force declined to comment.

Japan does not have any claim to the waters, but has a separate maritime dispute with China in the East China Sea.

http://tankler.com/japahviun-deploying-largest-warship-to-south-china-sea-13374

Japanese presence in south sea brings nightmares to us.
What to do?
Keep building more carriers.