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I heard chinese hackers can hack Trump account and steal national security material he saves all data on his twitter account with public setting

That would not be surprising after people found out how Hillary handled classified information. Trump owes his presidency to Hillary's recklessness and hacking of information by various foreign agencies.

Nonetheless, if Trump continues to use Twitter for important foreign policy decisions and announcements, that would be the most democratic form of foreign policy making and I would support it.

Did we not learn about how he feels about China's confiscation of US spying material. His entire unsteady logic process can be seen crystal clear from the flow of his tweets.

That's priceless.
 
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-38376037

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A US underwater drone seized by China last week has now been returned, the Pentagon has confirmed.

The drone was handed over close to the location it was seized, some 92km north-west of Subic Bay.

A statement said the US will "fly, sail, and operate in the South China Sea" where international law allows.

China captured the vessel in international waters last Thursday, in one of the most serious confrontations between the powers in decades.
 
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China has handed underwater drone back to the US: MOD
Source: Global Times Published: 2016/12/20 14:43:39



The Chinese defense ministry confirmed with the Global Times Tuesday that China has returned to the US the underwater drone it seized in the South China Sea.

According to the early report from FOX News, the US Department of Defense confirmed that China planned to hand the drone back to the US on Tuesday near Huangyan Island, where the drone was seized by the Chinese Navy.

Chinese Defense Ministry spokesperson Yang Yujun said late Saturday that China had decided to hand over the US underwater drone it captured in its waters to the United States in "an appropriate manner."

According Yang's statement on the website of the defense ministry, on Thursday afternoon a Chinese naval lifeboat located an unidentified device in the waters of the South China Sea. In order to prevent the device from risking the safety of navigation and personnel of passing vessels, the Chinese naval lifeboat verified and examined the device in a professional and responsible manner, the statement read.

They'll lose a load of money. Why do you think nobody else wanted to buy it recently, it's overvalued.

Indeed. It would not be a wise investment. Especially after the US regime decided to "crackdown" on fake news on Twitter and Facebook.
 
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The Pentagon said the vehicle had been handed over to the guided missile destroyer USS Mustin near where it had been "unlawfully seized". It called on China to comply with international law and refrain from further efforts to impede lawful U.S. activities.
 
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The Pentagon said the vehicle had been handed over to the guided missile destroyer USS Mustin near where it had been "unlawfully seized". It called on China to comply with international law and refrain from further efforts to impede lawful U.S. activities.

The Pentagon must understand it's a slight warning. They need to demand their overseas staff to be more careful.
 
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Wrong. Claim and counter claim doesn't make the area open to others, as the dispute is purely between the parties involved, just as any territorial dispute between neighbors won't make that territory open for third party acquisition. As a third party not involved in the dispute, you can either pick a side and comply with that state's regulation, or if you claim to be neutral, then you need to comply with the relevant laws of both claimants. Thus far, the US has claimed to be neutral.
Wrong.

Where did the US, as that third party, claimed the entirety of the SCS as our own, as in 'acquisition' as how you dishonestly put US ?

WHERE DID THE US EVER CLAIMED TO OWN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA ?

Claim and counter claim of ownership -- of a current public access way -- keep that access way open for anyone to traverse, NOT FOR ANYONE TO CLAIM OWNERSHIP.
 
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South China Sea is not HIGH SEA,...
Of course it is. The context of 'high sea' is an area of ocean THAT IS NOT UNDER ANY COUNTRY'S JURISDICTION.

Currently, the SCS is not recognized by anyone to belong to China, therefore, the SCS is not under any country's jurisdiction, therefore, the SCS is qualified as 'high sea'.

...the drone operation were not only the very definition of exploration of natural resrouces in other's EEZ, but also a military operation that directly violated the very condition laid out by the article as exclusively for peaceful purposes. That single fact alone make the operation and the drone outside the framework allowed for by UNCLOS.
Data gathering is peaceful purposes.

A violation of peaceful purposes means no overtly military type operations like war games are allowed. That is why there is something called 'innocent passage' thru territorial waters where the word 'innocent' mean a genuine desire to simply traverse the region without disturbing the local peace.

The Bowditch was NOT a commissioned warship, just like how the USAF often lease civilian airliners which does not mean a United Airlines jet suddenly becomes a military transport. That mean the Bowditch was fully within rights to conduct surveying operations within the Philippines' EEZ and did it without disturbing the local peace.

LOL did we give it back in disassembled pieces? That is the question.
Who cares ? But China's face is in pieces. LOL.
 
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Op-Ed: China deserves credit for handling underwater drone issue in professional and peaceful manner
By Curtis Stone (People's Daily Online) 16:55, December 20, 2016

On Tuesday, China demonstrated its goodwill in the face of U.S. hostility by returning the underwater drone that was located in the South China Sea. In a recent People’s Daily commentary, the USNS Bowditch was accused of keeping watch over China. The news has been largely one-sided, with Western media frequently replacing “discovery of unknown device” with “seizure of U.S. underwater drone.” But given China’s past experience with the Bowditch, the role of oceanographic data in warfare operations, and U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s aggressive actions and comments, China has every reason to be deeply suspicious of U.S. naval surveillance in the South China Sea.

The Bowditch has long been associated with spying operations against China. A recent article on the China Military website called the ship a threat to China’s national security. According to a 2011 Congressional Research Service reported on the subject of China’s military and security developments, the Bowditch has been involved in at least two major incidents. In March 2001, the U.S. accused a Chinese frigate of carrying out “aggressive and provocative actions” against the Bowditch within China’s exclusive economic zone. In September 2002, a similar event unfolded a second time. Given China’s past experience with the Bowditch, it is normal for China to be suspicious of its activities in waters facing China.

Oceanographic data is useful for scientific research, but this data can also be used to support submarine and undersea warfare operations in areas of tactical importance, such as the South China Sea. In addition, the Bowditch is not the first noncombat “research” ship to sail the waters of Northeast Asia. The USS Pueblo, a “research” ship captured by North Korea during Cold War, was used to intercept communications from North Korea. There is no way for China to be absolutely certain that the Bowditch is not engaged in hostile spying operations against China or that data being collected is not for the purpose of warfare operations against China.

Then there is the wildcard that is currently upsetting China-U.S. relations. Shortly after the Chinese navy collected the underwater device to make sure that it did not pose a security risk, Trump lashed out at China for “stealing” the underwater drone in an “unpresidented (unprecedented) act.” However, the situation was being handled military-to-military in a professional manner, and his comments only added fuel to the fire. Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Hua Chunying on Monday called Trump’s word choice “totally inaccurate.”

China has long opposed U.S. close-in reconnaissance operations in the South China Sea. Despite the spiral of tensions, China demonstrated its goodwill and returned the underwater drone “after friendly negotiation.” China should be given credit for handling the situation in a professional and peaceful manner.
 
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