some questions only for pilots(real,not keyboard pilots)

[siegecrossbow]

How long is the average flight mission for a fighter jet like the F-15, which I believe you flew?

Another issue is what if you had "to go" very badly during one of the missions. I know that they had bottles on civilian planes where they can take care of the liquid waste. Astronauts also have built in urinals. Do the G-suits have such accessories?

 

[dbc]

How long is the average flight mission for a fighter jet like the F-15, which I believe you flew?

Another issue is what if you had "to go" very badly during one of the missions. I know that they had bottles on civilian planes where they can take care of the liquid waste. Astronauts also have built in urinals. Do the G-suits have such accessories?

In his time, Chogy probably did some sort of complex cockpit contortions in an effort to use a piddle pack. Today pilots use a Advanced Mission Extender Device, there is a male and female version. The male version has a strategically placed cup and the womens version has a pad. To urinate simple unzip the flight suit, remove the hose and pump the urine from the cup or pad to the collection bag.

 

[Chogy]

How long is the average flight mission for a fighter jet like the F-15, which I believe you flew?

Another issue is what if you had "to go" very badly during one of the missions. I know that they had bottles on civilian planes where they can take care of the liquid waste. Astronauts also have built in urinals. Do the G-suits have such accessories?

Our average mission was between 1.5 and 2.0 hours without refueling. With AAR, it can become indefinite. In my time, we had piddle packs, which were nothing more than a compressed sponge in a plastic bag. We avoided them... I've probably used them maybe a dozen times, max.

You can always tell when a guy is trying to use one. There is frantic struggling going on. If it's your wingman, what you do then is tell him to go "Fighting wing" (an extended echelon) while he's trying to go, then do some mild acro. Always good for a laugh!

 

[Jigs]

Chogy i have a few questions if your kind enough to address them

Your F-15 cockpit, exactly what altitude does it pressurize to ? And does it hold that even at 60-65,000 feet or does it change ? Also does your oxygen mask come into play at all for higher altitudes or is it more for safety/communication. (You have to keep it on at all times right ?)

 

[ynmian]

A question for those pilots who also flew F-16 apart from other non-fly by wire.

How was your first feeling when u first rotated F-16, was it light like a feather. I think you must have found it so light u can fly that with 2 fingers and secondly I believed that you must have liked it side stick (which i strongly believe that its the best thing to have a non-movable side stick).

I am also interested to know if Sir MuradK flew Viper (either as a guest pilot or retired as f-16 pilot).

 

[ynmian]

@Chogy

many years back and even now I think that developed countries with huge air forces have so many planes that each pilot has its own aircraft assigned to him (that's why his name appears in port side).

In a picture I saw a name starting with "S. Sgt" I guess that must be the crew chief which u mentioned earlier. because ei was confused how a Sargent can fly

 

[ynmian]

How long is the average flight mission for a fighter jet like the F-15, which I believe you flew?

Another issue is what if you had "to go" very badly during one of the missions. I know that they had bottles on civilian planes where they can take care of the liquid waste. Astronauts also have built in urinals. Do the G-suits have such accessories?

Few days ago i had the same question in mind. But i thought that u can "hold" for 1 or 2 hours and it should not be a problem.

On second thought, If u can die for your country (which is a greatest thing) you can also "do something" inside you g-suite for your country. kidding

 

[siegecrossbow]

Few days ago i had the same question in mind. But i thought that u can "hold" for 1 or 2 hours and it should not be a problem.

On second thought, If u can die for your country (which is a greatest thing) you can also piss inside for your country. kidding

Happened to Alan Shepherd on the first American manned space mission. Well any ways I prefer not dogfighting when I've urinated in my pants. What if you got shot down and the enemies found you...you'd make a good propaganda piece.

 

[John Doe]

Happened to Alan Shepherd on the first American manned space mission. Well any ways I prefer not dogfighting when I've urinated in my pants. What if you got shot down and the enemies found you...you'd make a good propaganda piece.

Exactly ! In times like these, that photo will surely be immortal!

 

[ynmian]

It's really quite easy... the rudder pedals (on the ground) are tied into both the rudders AND the nose-wheel. When you kick full rudder on the ground, you get about 10 to 15 degrees of nose-wheel steering. Harder ground turns are done with a device called the "tiller" which is like a tiny steering wheel in the side-wall of the cockpit.

The tiller is used to align the jet with the runway centerline, and it is then allowed to roll a few feet be be sure the nose wheel is not cocked. Power up, you roll nice and straight, and the tiller is never used on take-off.

On TO roll, you then steer with your feet, and unless there is a truly vicious cross-wind, no more thought is required than an experienced driver in a car on a modern road. It's almost automatic.

@indianrabbit
You will notice that even when we are driving a car straight in a high way we are always keeping car straight by slight movements on steering wheel. similarly in a takeoff roll pilots use rudder pedals. see cockpit videos of fighter take off on youtube you will see heading change by 1 degree and again coming back to original heading.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

It's really quite easy... the rudder pedals (on the ground) are tied into both the rudders AND the nose-wheel. When you kick full rudder on the ground, you get about 10 to 15 degrees of nose-wheel steering. Harder ground turns are done with a device called the "tiller" which is like a tiny steering wheel in the side-wall of the cockpit.

The tiller is used to align the jet with the runway centerline, and it is then allowed to roll a few feet be be sure the nose wheel is not cocked. Power up, you roll nice and straight, and the tiller is never used on take-off.

On TO roll, you then steer with your feet, and unless there is a truly vicious cross-wind, no more thought is required than an experienced driver in a car on a modern road. It's almost automatic.

during my childhood (of course many years before 9/11) on PIA flights i used to walk into the cockpit after begging on my knees for permission (pilots were often friendly enough, and those safer days permitted it)

i remember being overwhelmed by the array of switches, dials, and guages. One of them was marked ''skid right/left'' or something to that extent

for tight turns in commercial aircrafts on a runway or hangar do you skid the tires slightly?

or am i wildly mistaken

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Our average mission was between 1.5 and 2.0 hours without refueling. With AAR, it can become indefinite. In my time, we had piddle packs, which were nothing more than a compressed sponge in a plastic bag. We avoided them... I've probably used them maybe a dozen times, max.

You can always tell when a guy is trying to use one. There is frantic struggling going on. If it's your wingman, what you do then is tell him to go "Fighting wing" (an extended echelon) while he's trying to go, then do some mild acro. Always good for a laugh!

assuming it were ''peace-time'' and it was a routine training mission, wouldnt it be fun to paint/lock onto his aircraft with a2a and watch him mess himself as the sirens and audible warnings go wild

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Happened to Alan Shepherd on the first American manned space mission. Well any ways I prefer not dogfighting when I've urinated in my pants. What if you got shot down and the enemies found you...you'd make a good propaganda piece.

wouldn't be good! you'd be better off grabbing your service pistol and doing as much damage before your magazine is exhausted and/or you get put to permanent sleep

 

[ynmian]

I have a silly question (if thread owner allows me).

you know our eyes focus. if the object near to me is in focus then the object in background which is out of focus will give me double image. put your finger few inches from your eyes and see anything on your desk, your finger will be out of focus and will give u double image.

Now my question is that if are watching/reading/aiming through your HUD and at the same time u have a lock on on enemy aircraft, wont u have a double image of the enemy. and if u focus on enemy aircraft wont u see double image of HUD, if its true then how do u aim effectively.

same thing can happen in landing too if u r on visual approach and can see runway threshold form couple of miles away, if you concentrate on your HUD, you will see double image of runway.

I can be totally wrong in my assumption.

real pilots please answer.

 

[John Doe]

Excellent question YNMIAN, which is even more true in case of the new fangled Helmet Mounted Sights !
I hope someone answers these questions