Somalia warns Pakistan, Iran over illegal fishing

[Amavous]

Somalia warns Pakistan, Iran over illegal fishing
By SomaliAffairs March 14, 2020

Somalia has sought assistance from the global anti-piracy forces to help it capture 43 boats from Pakistan and Iran that are conducting illegal fishing operations in the Horn of African nation’s waters.

The Somali Federal Government has accused the two countries of continuing illegal fishing in Somalia waters, warning the boats will be pursued and will be liable to pay heavy fines upon their capture.

Somalia’s Ministry of Fisheries and Marine Resources said the 43 fishing boats mainly conduct their illegal activities in Puntland and Galmudug regions.

Minister of Fisheries and Marine Resources Abdullahi Bidhaan Warsame warned that Somali pirates may resume their activities in the region due to the increased illegal fishing in their waters.

https://www.somaliaffairs.com/news/somalia-warns-pakistan-iran-over-illegal-fishing/

 

[Trango Towers]

I agree with Somalia if this is infact true.
No one should take advantage of someone else. Especially us

 

[Hack-Hook]

the problem is it seems somalia consider what is not part of its EEZ as their EEZ
this is Somali EEZ

also FAO have different guideline about fishing for migrating fishes
here is another map .
the RED is EEZ according to International law the yellow is part that Somalia think is its EEZ

 

[bsruzm]

I would like to see Turkish Navy to act against some hyenas on behalf of Somalia.

 

[Baba_Yaga]

Now thats funny. A few years ago, it was their pirates ****ing around with shipping in the entire region.

 

[denel]

Now thats funny. A few years ago, it was their pirates ****ing around with shipping in the entire region.

it was because of depleted fish stocks by these trawlers.

 

[BATMAN]

it was because of depleted fish stocks by these trawlers.

Pakistani fishermen don't have those kind of trawlers, they have wooden boats.
Only Iran have such professional trawlers and fishing industry to handle tons of fish, pack it and market it.
Pakistan just happened to be in a bad neighborhood... who have hijacked our state institutes and politics.

 

[denel]

Pakistani fishermen don't have those kind of trawlers, they have wooden boats.
Only Iran have such professional trawlers and fishing industry to handle tons of fish, pack it and market it.
Pakistan just happened to be in a bad neighborhood... who have hijacked our state institutes and politics.

i concur.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Now thats funny. A few years ago, it was their pirates ****ing around with shipping in the entire region.

it was because of depleted fish stocks by these trawlers.

Ppl are quick to fault the Somali pirates...and easily forget how poor Somalia is. Whether due to their corrupt politicians or other entities encroaching on their resources...or due to combinations of many such reasons...
...the fact remains that in absence of any options for them to fill their bellies through the right way...it's obvious they would resort to the wrong ways. This is true not just for those Somali pirates...but for anyone.

On topic...if Pakistan or Pakistanis are involved in illegal fishing in Somali waters...it should be stopped. If it is the state then money must be paid for however much was taken over whatever time. If it is just some Pakistani fishermen doing it illegally then they must be fined the amount they stole...and that money be paid to Somalia. I wish Somalia and its ppl good luck...I hope the economic situation of the country and its ppl improves

 

[Baba_Yaga]

Ppl are quick to fault the Somali pirates...and easily forget how poor Somalia is. Whether due to their corrupt politicians or other entities encroaching on their resources...or due to combinations of many such reasons...
...the fact remains that in absence of any options for them to fill their bellies through the right way...it's obvious they would resort to the wrong ways. This is true not just for those Somali pirates...but for anyone.

On topic...if Pakistan or Pakistanis are involved in illegal fishing in Somali waters...it should be stopped. If it is the state then money must be paid for however much was taken over whatever time. If it is just some Pakistani fishermen doing it illegally then they must be fined the amount they stole...and that money be paid to Somalia. I wish Somalia and its ppl good luck...I hope the economic situation of the country and its ppl improves

Sorry, there is no justification for piracy. There are poor people in many african nations, only somalis turned to piracy. Besides, these people were not the jolly pirates you see in movies - drinking run, singing merry songs. These people were cold blooded killers. They killed people even after taking the loot and of course, killed the hostages if ransom wasn't paid. Had they just looted and not killed people, I would still understand.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

shut up Somalia

 

[denel]

Sorry, there is no justification for piracy. There are poor people in many african nations, only somalis turned to piracy. Besides, these people were not the jolly pirates you see in movies - drinking run, singing merry songs. These people were cold blooded killers. They killed people even after taking the loot and of course, killed the hostages if ransom wasn't paid. Had they just looted and not killed people, I would still understand.

Look at other countries - you need to see the landscape - there is hardly any arable land; fishing is a lifeline that keeps most of the population fed.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Africa’s coastal waters have long been attractive to industrial fishing fleets from around the world. But as valuable fish stocks dwindle, these large vessels are creeping shoreward and illegally crossing into zones reserved for small-scale fishing communities. Keeping the big boats out is important for regulating catches—but it’s also a matter of life and death for artisanal fishers.

“Every year, collisions with industrial vessels kill over 250 artisanal fishers in West Africa alone,” says Dyhia Belhabib, principal investigator of fisheries at the nonprofit Ecotrust Canada. Across Africa, she adds, the toll may be as high as 1,000 deaths a year.

In a new study, Belhabib and her colleagues use publicly available data to unmask the identities of these marauding vessels.

Industrial fishing boats are required to carry an automatic identification system (AIS), which broadcasts information about a ship’s location, size, and nationality. Looking at four years of satellite AIS signals in African waters, the researchers saw where each ship fished and for how long.

They found that from 2012 to 2016, industrial vessels in African waters spent nearly six percent of their time illegally fishing in protected artisanal zones. That figure soared for nations that lack enforcement resources, like Somalia, where a staggering 93 percent of industrial fishing occurred in areas reserved for small-scale fishers.

Industrial ships flying African flags—particularly from Ghana—were the worst offenders, followed by ships from South Korea, the European Union, and China.

But the high number of ships from Ghana is likely misleading. A recent investigation revealed that much of Ghana’s national fleet is owned and operated by Chinese companies. The practice of reflagging boats—when foreign vessels assume the flag of a different country, often one that has lax fishing standards—makes it difficult to enforce penalties for illegal fishing, such as denying permits or subsidies.

“Some of these intruding vessels have criminal pasts, have collided with other boats, have fished illegally,” says Belhabib. “Maybe high-risk vessels shouldn’t be allowed to have a license to begin with.”

Some African nations, such as Sierra Leone and Guinea, are already using AIS data to catch vessel incursions in real time, says Belhabib. Yet other countries’ strong industrial fishing lobbies are opposing efforts to expand fleet surveillance.

For local communities already struggling with pollution and climate change, illegal industrial fishing “is an additional stressor that depletes fisheries resources,” says Ifesinachi Okafor-Yarwood, a research consultant for Colorado-based One Earth Future who was not involved in the study. This has far-reaching implications for social development and the attainment of multiple sustainable development goals.

“Fish is not just a source of protein,” Okafor-Yarwood explains. “It also provides income to pay for healthcare and education.”

 

[zhxy]

Can the governments of the two countries negotiate for Pakistani fishermen to be licensed to operate in Somalia, paying just a sum of money for fishing? So both sides benefit

 

[Cookie Monster]

Sorry, there is no justification for piracy. There are poor people in many african nations, only somalis turned to piracy. Besides, these people were not the jolly pirates you see in movies - drinking run, singing merry songs. These people were cold blooded killers. They killed people even after taking the loot and of course, killed the hostages if ransom wasn't paid. Had they just looted and not killed people, I would still understand.

Firstly I don't use movies to get news or historical facts about anything. Historically pirates have been brutal cold blooded killers. Also I have read the news about Somali pirates taking hostages and various countries taking actions against them...even going as far as countries banding together to patrol the areas(most effected by piracy) of the Indian ocean to ensure the safety of trade and other civilian ships.

Secondly perhaps u r not getting what I'm saying...in no way did I say that we should forgive these ppl bcuz this justification and that justification. Instead what I'm saying is that crime often emerges when a person is forced into a corner and all other options are taken from him/her. Do u think that these pirates were born cold blooded killers/kidnappers? No they were born just like u and me...a baby who is often shaped by the world bcuz our environment plays a huge role in the type of person we become. Most likely they started as small time thieves or pickpockets...and then descended deeper and deeper into this darkness...with each step up...their greed taking over. This has been a documented and studied aspect of society btw...crime is generally lower in societies that are economically well off and generally higher in societies that are not(economically well off).

So if u wish to chop their heads off and bring them to justice that's all fine and dandy...but u will be doing that forever...if that vicious cycle that pushes ppl towards the wrong path is not stopped...it will keep churning out ppl like that. It is easy for us...ppl born with privileges that we take for granted...to act morally superior...but who knows how we would've turned out if we were put in those circumstances. I for one can only pray that God never tests me like that...or anyone for that matter.

Can the governments of the two countries negotiate for Pakistani fishermen to be licensed to operate in Somalia, paying just a sum of money for fishing? So both sides benefit

No not necessary...for Pakistan fishing isn't a dire need to survive(although it is a poor country and it can help) but for Somalia it is needed for survival. It is a long stretched out country(if u look at its map) that has a lot of coastline but not so much arable land to feed its population...so they must turn to fishing. If other countries are taking their fish...it is practically equivalent to condemning them to death.