So what is China doing, dropping drilling devices in Japanese EEZ?

[Zero_wing]

Didn't know the Japanese and Americans had killed so many Pinoy but that doesn't matter to Pinoy cheerleaders here on PDF.

Well it did matter but thats all in the past we are not blood killers like you people who loves to see blood for something that happen a hundred years ago beside they are not claiming new territory unlike some people only in the past so what's the point of fighting or hating them we hate their ancestors but we don't hate the 21st century Japan or America so call us whatever we are still better people than you.

 

[Vitchilo]

The Filipinos are sane enough to not hold 100 years grudges like the Chinese or the Japanese.

Thumps up to the Philippines.

 

[terranMarine]

Well it did matter but thats all in the past we are not blood killers like you people who loves to see blood for something that happen a hundred years ago beside they are not claiming new territory unlike some people only in the past so what's the point of fighting or hating them we hate their ancestors but we don't hate the 21st century Japan or America so call us whatever we are still better people than you.

Yes i can tell you love the 21st century America who is responsible for the Afghan and Iraq war plus the drone attacks in Pakistan.

Iraq War
Total soldiers dead count: 28,821–37,405
Total civilians dead count: > 100.000

Pakistan
dead count between 1,886 and 3,341

Afghan War
Total civilians dead count: 12,500–14,700

Yes to you China is a country with everyone as blood killers and Pinoys such as yourself worship the 21st century America.

 

[jhungary]

Yes i can tell you love the 21st century America who is responsible for the Afghan and Iraq war plus the drone attacks in Pakistan.

Iraq War
Total soldiers dead count: 28,821–37,405
Total civilians dead count: > 100.000

Pakistan
dead count between 1,886 and 3,341

Afghan War
Total civilians dead count: 12,500–14,700

Yes to you China is a country with everyone as blood killers and Pinoys such as yourself worship the 21st century America.

Are you implying the US killed more than 100,000 Civilian in Iraq? If you do, please show your source. And it's funny how you include the figure of soldier in it.

A lot of civilian casualty is due to secular violent, not from US, and in the end, some militia killed those who oppose them and pin it on the American Airstrike.

 

[terranMarine]

Are you implying the US killed more than 100,000 Civilian in Iraq? If you do, please show your source. And it's funny how you include the figure of soldier in it.

A lot of civilian casualty is due to secular violent, not from US, and in the end, some militia killed those who oppose them and pin it on the American Airstrike.

Don't you know there's a thing called wikipedia? The numbers of casualties can be found there. I haven't implied the US killed more than 100,000 civilians in Iraq but since Iraq is a war based on lies it resulted in > 100.000 civilian deaths and needless to say Iraqi soldiers had to die defending their country because the Americans felt they needed to declare war on them in the name of fighting terrorism and preventing Iraq from developing WMD. As if Afghanistan wasn't enough already Iraq was the next target. Since Americans like to drag other countries into wars against terrorism that means the allied forces also contributed to the casualties. The Americans, allied forces and militias all contributed to these deaths but who was it again who declared the war?

Do you have anything to say about the drone bombings in Pakistan where plenty of civilians are killed?

 

[jhungary]

Well, i can see this you are trying to blame the war of Iraq to America and hence blame the war casualty to America, but dude, you have plot of your thinking.

A.) How do you know the WMD is a lie? Do you know personally there are no WMD in Iraq?
According to this Article, The britain will help destroying the "REMAIN" of Chemical weapon in Iraq, the article dated 30 July 2012

UK experts to help Iraq destroy chemical residues - Yahoo! News

There are at least 2 bunker of Chemical Weapon left on Northern Iraq even at the end of the Iraqi war, unless you don't count Chemical Weapon WMD........

Now, i don't know if you actually innocently or you intent to misrepresent the truth behind the war in Iraq. But the war in Iraq was NOT because there are no WMD, rather the Iraqi hestitantly to destroy the WMD.

The actual start of war is like this

Before America invasion, there are no "Stockpile" of WMD as the west suggested but there are occasion stash somewhere in smaller quantity, the big stash the American Hope for is long gone, according to the Reliable source, they were destroy but there are some who believe they were transferred to Iran, no proof were ever given to this, so i can only say it's rumor.

The problem with Iraqi government is, they claim they need months if not year to dispose of those "REMAINING CHEMICAL WEAPON" but the west think they are an interpretation of stalling thus allow time to move around the Ghost stash (The stockpile the west hope for) and hence violating the UN Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation

The core of war is the West believe that a large quantity of WMD still exist in Iraq, and there are "reliable" intel that suggested that the Iraqi is buying time to move their WMD, but the truth is unknown, as the only witness said the Intel is legit turns out farbicating the evidence. However, the issue of why the Iraqi take so long to get rid of the "Remaining" Chemical weapon is also unknown.

The issue is, yes, the United States have responsibility on the Iraqi War, but so does the Iraqi government, known Chemical Warfare site were recorded and notified but they somehow refused to destory them under the UN resolution 1441.

B.) You cannot demand the responsibility even for the country that started war. Let's say you are correct, the US started the whole war for Iraqi resource, you really cannot blame the American the death of civilian. Do you even know how those civilian are killed? According to AP, about 20% of those are killed by IED planted by the insurgent, 46% but secular murder, only about 6% by Colition accident.

You cannot claim all the civilian death are the work of the American Colition since not all of them are war death, and you need to know, with or without America and Iraq war, Iraq is a violent place for its secular violent, you do know the Iraqi Sunni and Shia don't like each other and have been fighting in Iraq for more than 500 years, right?

I cannot stop you from blaming america but do your research right before you do.

 

[terranMarine]

Yahoo news wow that's a reliable source of news and research coming from you.

I think most people know Iraq had chemical weapons during the 80's, guess what? Go read the whole paragraph on
Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you want to do it right go read the whole page too before telling me to do my research.

Beginning in 2003, the ISG had uncovered remnants of Iraq's 1980s-era WMD programs. On June 21, 2006 Rick Santorum claimed that "we have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons", citing a declassified June 6 letter to Pete Hoekstra saying that since the 2003 invasion, a total of "approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent" had been found scattered throughout the country.[109][110]

The Washington Post reported that "the U.S. military announced in 2004 in Iraq that several crates of the old shells had been uncovered and that they contained a blister agent that was no longer active." It said the shells "had been buried near the Iranian border, and then long forgotten, by Iraqi troops during their eight-year war with Iran, which ended in 1988."[111]

The US was trying to convince the world Iraq was developing nukes, did US find any nukes?

 

[jhungary]

Wow, wikipedia, worse source than Yahoo news, at least you have to be a journo to be able to edit Yahoo news, you only need to be a smuck to edit wikipedia.

Well, first of all, WMD are Chemical, Biology and Nuclear Weapon, and NOT JUST NUKE.

Secondly, what i said the Casus Belli of the Iraq war is because of IRAQI UNCOOPERATE WITH THE IAEA Agent, not that whether or not Iraq have WMD (See my previous post please) and Hence the US and UK think such act (Refusing to cooperate to the IAEA) are in direct violation to Resoultion 1441.

Set aside whether or not Iraq have WMD to begin with the, Iraqi was indeed refusing cooperation with IAEA top dog (Hans Blix) quoting the source you quote the wikipedia.

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Under Subcategory 2003 Iraq War and under titled Prelude, in 2nd paragraph, it read

Prelude

In January 2003, United Nations weapons inspectors reported that they had found no indication that Iraq possessed nuclear weapons or an active program. Some former UNSCOM inspectors disagree about whether the United States could know for certain whether or not Iraq had renewed production of weapons of mass destruction. Robert Gallucci said, "If Iraq had [uranium or plutonium], a fair assessment would be they could fabricate a nuclear weapon, and there's no reason for us to assume we'd find out if they had." Similarly, former inspector Jonathan Tucker said, "Nobody really knows what Iraq has. You really can't tell from a satellite image what's going on inside a factory." However, Hans Blix said in late January 2003 that Iraq had "not genuinely accepted UN resolutions demanding that it disarm."[72] He claimed there were some materials which had not been accounted for. Since sites had been found which evidenced the destruction of chemical weaponry, UNSCOM was actively working with Iraq on methods to ascertain for certain whether the amounts destroyed matched up with the amounts that Iraq had produced.[73][74] In the next quarterly report, after the war, the total amount of proscribed items destroyed by UNMOVIC in Iraq can be gathered.[75] Those include:

Read the highlighted and italic comment

The problem, as i said, is whether or not Iraq have WMD, they are suppose to be cooperate with the Resolution 1441, the fact that the action on 1441 has been violate and the washington request to reinstate the resolution 678 (Which included an armed authorisation) but fail to pass the Security council. The reason not because they are invalid but the UN want to further wait for the outcome.

Well, plus i have already qyuote that ther ARE indeed chemical weapon in Iraq, you just choose to not believe it, that's not my problem.

 

[terranMarine]

Excuse me? When did i say Iraq has no chemical weapons?

 

[jhungary]

I didn't say whether or not you said Iraq have Chemical weapon, lol i was saying Whether or not Iraq have WMD IS NOT IMPORTANT FOR THE CLAUSE OF WAR.

The casus belli is Iraqi refuse to cooperate with the IAEA, dude, please either read carefully what i say or learn some english before you post.

50 cents RMB is so easy to earn

 

[terranMarine]

"Well, plus i have already qyuote that ther ARE indeed chemical weapon in Iraq, you just choose to not believe it, that's not my problem."

You said i choose not to believe it. I'm asking you where did i say i deny there were any chemical weapons in Iraq?

 

[jhungary]

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

I said you choose not to believe the YAHOO Source, dude, you have some serious problem....

I am gonna say this once and for all....

I said the cause of war with Iraq was there are lack of cooperation with the IRaqi side to the IAEA inspector.

SET ASIDE whether or not the Iraqi indeed have WMD. The act they did is in violate of Resolution 1441. There are no way to know if the Iraqi indeed Have or Have not any WMD presetn until the inspector are free to inspect al lthey want, but Iraqi does not allow that doing. You can't say, at the begining of the war whether or not Iraqi process the WMD, either way you say is wrong.

So i don't really care if you believe there are WMD or not, but i feel a bit strange you don't believe the reliability of Yahoo, rather Wikipedia. That's what i said, you don't need to reply, you have already earn 2 dollar RMB for the exchange. And i will not reply to you on this issue anymore

Dude, i cannot be hold responsible for what you don't understand, misrepresent, misunderstood, misread, confused and thought, i am not the one who said America started all these, i am just saying Iraq have an Equal share of responsibility, i don't agree or disagree on whatever you said before but if you say the whole war is started because of America and America have the sole responsibility, i can tell you that you are wrong.

 

[terranMarine]

Well excuse me but i provided a wikipedia page where it does say Iraq has chemical weapons and you didn't say it clearly that i don't believe YAHOO. You have derailed the thread long enough when i was only commenting on another faggot who was worshiping USA and claiming China as a warmonger (suggesting USA is very peaceful).

 

[Zero_wing]

Yes i can tell you love the 21st century America who is responsible for the Afghan and Iraq war plus the drone attacks in Pakistan.

Iraq War
Total soldiers dead count: 28,821–37,405
Total civilians dead count: > 100.000

Pakistan
dead count between 1,886 and 3,341

Afghan War
Total civilians dead count: 12,500–14,700

Yes to you China is a country with everyone as blood killers and Pinoys such as yourself worship the 21st century America.

And you forgot this too china in Tibet killed millions since 1950 and millions more to come and of course the millions that you people killed since china was founded over 5,000 years ago up to now its billions. Am not defending America sure America is no saint nobody is in this world if want saint we filipinos come close but we have our faults too so we are human like the rest so if you looking for monster just look at a mirror my suggestion to is stop being offended and reform yourselves to be better members of our world i hate to share this world with you your arrogant people people but if you change it would be no problem everyone deserves a second chance

 

[Zero_wing]

He called it using some "stupid name" in case you ignorant phil puppies cannot recognize what we are talking about. Actually your country is no more than an annoying fly to China, your army ain't worth the price of a nuke and its carrier missile. Just some rockets will do the job to bomb your grandfather's age antique ship into the SOUTH CHINA SEA!
It's really hard to understand how you think your pieces of junk can even threat our power in any possible way. Your "air force" has no force but air, your most advanced "battleship" is from US' garbage bin...I don't even want to continue with this list. No matter what you call it, HUANGYAN ISLAND IS CHINESE TERRITORY!
Remember, nuke is our strategical weapon to use against other equal size power, your small islands ain't worth its price!

Really first its a shoal one of you chinese meat puppets already admit its a shoal its not an island as for ignorant us if your looking for one just go to your local mirror to see one and other thing you have nothing to defend in the first place its not your territory never was never will so anything you say is nothing but blind ignorance of a controlled population and as for your nukes you just over compensating for something smaller that you always had ever since threatening us with nukes some civilized country you are! dishonest in international negotiations using force to get what you want. You people have power now because of your cheap labor and monopole of the world economy and stealing resources from client states in Africa and even here in the Philippines you people smuggle rare earth metal etc and your drug lord come here and import your drugs here other crimes you people have a lot of nerve and for the Pakistanis who support this people you can try to post out this but this the truth remember that and after they are done with your country they will turn on you.