Singaporeans explain what it’s like working for a Chinese tech company

[Song Hong]

It is bad idea to make your most capable engineers as leaders

The Cpc leaders are former top engineers while us leaders are lawyers. Indian leaders are all fcukind brahmins.

 

[nahtanbob]

Singapore has a sizeable marine industries hiring 170,000 people and very few Singaporeans. The reason given by big boss is Singaporeans are lazy and stupid. The MSM just parrot the entire lines of big boss and not a single voice of workers is heard.

This is is disgusting government that seek to permanently exclude her citizens in all domain, even preferring to hire inferior + experienced labors rather than highly educated locals.

The Koreans and Japans are paying first world wage and giving first world working conditions to the workers and they prosper. Even the Hyundai and Mitsubishi shipyard are not particularly run by smart leaders, these people are infinitely better than leaders of Singapore maritime industries.


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Employers in the maritime sector say that foreign applicants often pip Singaporeans to the job because of a sense that they are more willing to work under the tough conditions in the industry.

As few young Singaporeans are drawn to the job, the industry also suffers from a lack of a ready pool of skilled and experienced locals to tap in recent years.

Singapore has more than 5,000 maritime companies that employ 170,000 people. However, the bulk of the seafaring jobs are filled by foreigners from countries such as Indonesia and the Philippines. The sector contributes 7 per cent to Singapore's GDP.

Companies prefer to rely on experienced foreigners who can do the job with minimal training rather than hire fresh Singaporean graduates and train them from scratch.

Maritime firms opting for foreigners

EMPLOYERS in the maritime sector say that foreign applicants often pip Singaporeans to the job because of a sense that they are more willing to work under the tough conditions in the industry. Read more at straitstimes.com.

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Is it possible Singapore has a small bench of qualified leaders ? Maybe your education system is not flexible enough to produce good leaders capable at things other than engineering ?
Maybe you are good at producing above average technical engineers

 

[Song Hong]

Is it possible Singapore has a small bench of qualified leaders ? Maybe your education system is not flexible enough to produce good leaders capable at things other than engineering ?
Maybe you are good at producing above average technical engineers

The reason is Singapore leaders believe in Amakudari, MBA-ism.

CPC leaders believe in promoting the capable employees from workers.

But at least, many Singapore Amakudari is not very very bad, because most of them got good grades in the high school exams.

In US, promotion is base on race and gender. Jews blacks, Indians and pervert got opportunities others go and die.

 

[Bengal71]

It is bad idea to make your most capable engineers as leaders

It is a far greater bad idea to make "people managers" managers of tech teams and companies. They are otherwise good managers but don't have a clue when they manage a tech team. Cybersecurity is full of donkeys for managers who have no clue whatsoever about Cybersecurity. Many times they take decisions I feel like screaming out "what the fck are you talking about you dumbfvck?".

 

[nahtanbob]

It is a far greater bad idea to make "people managers" managers of tech teams and companies. They are otherwise good managers but don't have a clue when they manage a tech team. Cybersecurity is full of donkeys for managers who have no clue whatsoever about Cybersecurity. Many times they take decisions I feel like screaming out "what the fck are you talking about you dumbfvck?".

Domain knowledge is needed for management. But to promote the smartest technical people as managers does no service to management science. Usually technology heavy managers lack the ability to interact with people outside their organizations, keep their employees motivated and handle cultural issues. China has a toxic work culture. Just ask Chinese employees who have a choice whether they want to work in that culture.

 

[Song Hong]

It is a far greater bad idea to make "people managers" managers of tech teams and companies. They are otherwise good managers but don't have a clue when they manage a tech team. Cybersecurity is full of donkeys for managers who have no clue whatsoever about Cybersecurity. Many times they take decisions I feel like screaming out "what the fck are you talking about you dumbfvck?".

Morons and bad elements only promote their kind. So the top is always evil.

US MBA is more lethal the WMD or any other nuclear bombs. It destroy USA. And while evil MBA scorch earth everything on their ways, they are able to make everyone praise MBA for clever, hardworking and ethical.

To be a key personal in Huawei including sales or people management, you will need to be R&D engineers who make big contributions first.

ALL Huawei top sales are nerd engineers.

 

[nahtanbob]

The reason is Singapore leaders believe in Amakudari, MBA-ism.

CPC leaders believe in promoting the capable employees from workers.

But at least, many Singapore Amakudari is not very very bad, because most of them got good grades in the high school exams.

In US, promotion is base on race and gender. Jews blacks, Indians and pervert got opportunities others go and die.

Has it worked in China ? Name Chinese companies that have world class global operations

Most of the corporate sector is merit based in USA

I cannot speak for Singapore.

Morons and bad elements only promote their kind. So the top is always evil.

US MBA is more lethal the WMD or any other nuclear bombs. It destroy USA. And while evil MBA scorch earth everything on their ways, they are able to make everyone praise MBA for clever, hardworking and ethical.

To be a key personal in Huawei including sales, you will need to be R&D engineers who make big contributions first.

ALL Huawei top sales are nerd engineers.

Explain why American technology companies Intel, Nvidia, Apple, Cisco, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Oracle dominate their market sectors

 

[Song Hong]

Has it worked in China ? Name Chinese companies that have world class global operations

Most of the corporate sector is merit based in USA

I cannot speak for Singapore.



Explain why American technology companies Intel, Nvidia, Apple, Cisco, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Oracle dominate their market sectors

There was a time when US adopt the principle of land of equal opportunities and meritocracy-- more or less.

Since 1991 US dump meritocracy. Effects will be showing up in a while time - not immediate.

 

[StraightEdge]

I saw some report few days back about working hours in China.

So that's about 49 hours, so it's like 8hrs x 6 days a week. Other way to look at it 10hrs x 5 days a week. Little more than normal, but not very unusual compared to many Asian countries.

 

[Bengal71]

Domain knowledge is needed for management. But to promote the smartest technical people as managers does no service to management science. Usually technology heavy managers lack the ability to interact with people outside their organizations, keep their employees motivated and handle cultural issues. China has a toxic work culture. Just ask Chinese employees who have a choice whether they want to work in that culture.

I am not talking about the Chinese work culture. I am talking about tech companies here in Aus and othe MNCs. If you don't promote engineering people to management roles, they won't have career progression and the org will have high turnover rate and lose valuable people. I see the businesses have a need to keep smart engineers in engineering roles but people have career aspirations and they won't allow their career growth to be determined by businesses, they will seek employment elsewhere.

I disagree with tech heavy people lacking interpersonal skills. People come with all sorts of personalities and I have seen many engineers who would make excellent managers and drive greater value for the business than the dumbfcks who warm the big chairs. This is nowadays more and more recognized and industry is moving towards a change but it's not there yet.

 

[Song Hong]

I am not talking about the Chinese work culture. I am talking about tech companies here in Aus and othe MNCs. If you don't promote engineering people to management roles, they won't have career progression and the org will have high turnover rate and lose valuable people. I see the businesses have a need to keep smart engineers in engineering roles but people have career aspirations and they won't allow their career growth to be determined by businesses, they will seek employment elsewhere.

I disagree with tech heavy people lacking interpersonal skills. People come with all sorts of personalities and I have seen many engineering who would make excellent managers and drive greater value for the business than the dumbfcks who warm the big chairs. This is nowadays more and more recognized and industry is moving towards a change but it's not there yet.

The top engineers are far kinder and honest than MBAs. Most top engineers are nerdy and outright honest.

MBAs are scheming, evil, gang up, selfish, talk a lot, and have no qualms in destroy anyone who they dont like.

Also you find all top managers gang up together, aligning themselves in evil initiatives, often lying,

To join this manager club, you must be either MBA, or young engineers must demonstrate evil personalities.

 

[Bengal71]

The top engineers are far kinder and honest than MBAs. Most top engineers are nerdy and outright honest.

MBAs are scheming, evil, gang up, selfish, talk a lot, and have no qualms in destroy anyone who they dont like.

Also you find all top managers gang up together, aligning themselves in evil initiatives, often lying,

To join this manager club, you must be either MBA, or young engineers must demonstrate evil personalities.

Only a short while back I proposed a new initiative to include secure code review for all custom codes that are developed by our inhouse teams or external venddors, many senior stakeholders who have some understanding of the matter agreed and were supportive. Came along a dumbfvk director who has no background whatsoever in IT or Security opined that peer review by a co-developer is sufficient and doesn't agree with secure code review. Despite being explained peer review is not the equivalent of assurance, neither are code writers competent to perform secure code review, no avail.

I have worked for a company is Aus in the Aviation/Air-Traffic management industry where there was a dumbfvk working in the Cybersecurity group. A quick look up on her LinkedIn reveals, she worked as a cafe manager prior to joining Cybersecurity and has no formal qualification/education in the subject. But being a loud mouthed dumbfvk continued to lecture and have different opinion with expert Cybersecurity professionals how an Enterprise Cybersecurity policy must be written, failed to calm her down after repeatedly showing NIST, ISACA and ISC2 on how to write the said policy, the dumb cow continued to express her valued 'opinion'. Examples of such are numerous in the industry and those organizations suffer as a result.

@nahtanbob

 

[Song Hong]

Only a short while back I proposed a new initiative to include secure code review for all custom codes that are developed by our inhouse teams or external venddors, many senior stakeholders who have some understanding of the matter agreed and were supportive. Came along a dumbfvk director who has no background whatsoever in IT or Security opined that peer review by a co-developer is sufficient and doesn't agree with secure code review. Despite being explained peer review is not the equivalent of assurance, neither are code writers competent to perform secure code review, no avail.

I have worked for a company is Aus in the Aviation/Air-Traffic management industry where there was a dumbfvk working in the Cybersecurity group. A quick look up on her LinkedIn reveals, she worked as a cafe manager prior to joining Cybersecurity and has no formal qualification/education in the subject. But being a loud mouthed dumbfvk continued to lecture and have different opinion with expert Cybersecurity professionals how an Enterprise Cybersecurity policy must be written, failed to calm her down after repeatedly showing NIST, ISACA and ISC2 on how to write the said policy, the dumb cow continued to express her valued 'opinion'. Examples of such are numerous in the industry and those organizations suffer as a result.

@nahtanbob

Not as if Huawei top managers (the are former top R&D engineers) are scrupulous. But top engineers despite turning to dark side often have far more passion in getting something done, rather than talking coc.

 

[nahtanbob]

Only a short while back I proposed a new initiative to include secure code review for all custom codes that are developed by our inhouse teams or external venddors, many senior stakeholders who have some understanding of the matter agreed and were supportive. Came along a dumbfvk director who has no background whatsoever in IT or Security opined that peer review by a co-developer is sufficient and doesn't agree with secure code review. Despite being explained peer review is not the equivalent of assurance, neither are code writers competent to perform secure code review, no avail.

I have worked for a company is Aus in the Aviation/Air-Traffic management industry where there was a dumbfvk working in the Cybersecurity group. A quick look up on her LinkedIn reveals, she worked as a cafe manager prior to joining Cybersecurity and has no formal qualification/education in the subject. But being a loud mouthed dumbfvk continued to lecture and have different opinion with expert Cybersecurity professionals how an Enterprise Cybersecurity policy must be written, failed to calm her down after repeatedly showing NIST, ISACA and ISC2 on how to write the said policy, the dumb cow continued to express her valued 'opinion'. Examples of such are numerous in the industry and those organizations suffer as a result.

@nahtanbob

The real issue is when retail, financial, government, airlines, hospitals have IT departments. I would think the head of IT department in these companies would be someone who is technology savvy. Unfortunately a lot of these companies do not have capable technical leaders.

 

[Song Hong]

The real issue is when retail, financial, government, airlines, hospitals have IT departments. I would think the head of IT department in these companies would be someone who is technology savvy. Unfortunately a lot of these companies do not have capable technical leaders.

I was working in one big IT companies revenue tenth of billions annually.

All managers onward dont know IT.

Even 3rd party Microsoft IT experts have lots of morons (there are few good ones). Many Hindus..

This is a sign of Microsoft arrogance who believe they can hire lots of gabbarge and still prosper -- so long there are a core group of about 1-200 genius, doing key development.

Soon Huawei will be eating Microsoft.