Sing Vande Mataram or quit India: BJP to Muslim corporators

[Lotus_stalk]

Hot weather is heating up politics, people are becoming more irritable

 

[Jackdaws]

Meanwhile in UP, Muslims mob use stone pelting on the Police party which went to close an illegal slaughterhouse. Threaten to turn UP into "kashmir".

Then send in the paramilitary forces - they will get their wish of turning into Kashmir.

 

[TISSOT]

Then send in the paramilitary forces - they will get their wish of turning into Kashmir.

This is not the PDP govt, its the Yogi govt.

All such fantasy was nipped in the bud within half a day (without need of any paramilitary force)

 

[Tshering22]

Hate to say it here in front of pustules, but I personally do sing it.

But will always oppose those who try and shove it down my throat out of spite just because I am Muslim.

I am not sitting for any Hindu designed nationality tests.

Then why are you angry, man?

You have done nothing wrong.

I just don't understand.

 

[adil_minhas]

Then why are you angry, man?

You have done nothing wrong.

I just don't understand.

You won't understand.

You are not a Muslim in India.

You are an "accepted" Dharmic minority.

Never mind the fact that they butchered you too centuries ago.

Such that Buddhism now flourishes only outside the land of its birth.

Kudos, and minority sympathies.

 

[graphican]

To you and others who are saying that Vande Mataram is shirk

1 Only 1st 2 stanzas are the National Song - Not the whole
2 Saying that I bow or respect Mother does not mean I disrespect god. Mother is not god
3 One of the most beautiful renditions of the National Song is by AR Rehman who is a Muslim. He and millions of other Muslims have no problem in singing the National Song. It is only a handful of them who have the problem

So take 1st 2 sentences out and clean your "wande-e-matram" from Shirk. It will be more acceptable to Muslims in India then.

A BIG SUGGESTION
Should India not re-write WAND_E_MATRAM song and take objectionable material out of it? Then it will be acceptable to all religious minorities of India. It will still be a patriotic song, in original language but will not say objectionable wordings anymore.

Should you not start a movement about it ?

 

[ThinkLogically]

You won't understand.

You are not a Muslim in India.

You are an "accepted" Dharmic minority.

Never mind the fact that they butchered you too centuries ago.

Such that Buddhism now flourishes only outside the land of its birth.

Kudos, and minority sympathies.

What's so special about being Muslims in India?

You will not accept our constitution but want only the word "Secular" in it to be followed by all.

You will not accept Supreme Court when it comes to religious beliefs whereas all other religions are fine with it.

You will not accept National Symbols.

You will not accept minorities at places where you are majority.

You will need special pandering by political parties just because of your religion. But cry when others start doing the similar things.

 

[TISSOT]

You won't understand.

You are not a Muslim in India.

You are an "accepted" Dharmic minority.

Never mind the fact that they butchered you too centuries ago.

Such that Buddhism now flourishes only outside the land of its birth.

Kudos, and minority sympathies.

If being muslim in India is just a burden, just throw of that oppressive yolk of islam and pick up some Dharmic religion .

That way you do not even have to leave India

 

[hussain0216]

Now they are trying to force you to sing idolatrous songs about theirs bharati matas and cows.

Jinnah was a genius,

Nehru and Gandhi were trying to convince him to stay united with India, but Jinnah knew hindus better than nehru and gandi

Indian muslims, as each day goes buy it becomes ever more imperitive that you start thinking about increasing the size of your muslim majority areas

200 million people is a significant number nd enough to form a state, your future depends on partition and forming a new muslim state out of india

If being muslim in India is just a burden, just throw of that oppressive yolk of islam and pick up some Dharmic religion .

That way you do not even have to leave India

You want him to worship idols snd animals?

 

[Tshering22]

Now they are trying to force you to sing idolatrous songs about theirs bharati matas and cows.

Jinnah was a genius,

Nehru and Gandhi were trying to convince him to stay united with India, but Jinnah knew hindus better than nehru and gandi

Indian muslims, as each day goes buy it becomes ever more imperitive that you start thinking about increasing the size of your muslim majority areas

200 million people is a significant number nd enough to form a state, your future depends on partition and forming a new muslim state out of india

You want him to worship idols snd animals?

I like your passion.

Tell me something; have you ever used a pocket knife for all the bile of negativity you spread?

 

[hussain0216]

I like your passion.

Tell me something; have you ever used a pocket knife for all the bile of negativity you spread?

Do you mean to cut string or something?

 

[Tshering22]

You won't understand.

You are not a Muslim in India.

You are an "accepted" Dharmic minority.

Never mind the fact that they butchered you too centuries ago.

Such that Buddhism now flourishes only outside the land of its birth.

Kudos, and minority sympathies.

Bhai sahab, There is nothing like the marginalisation that a few people like to point.

Buddhism hasn't vanished anywhere. It lives in harmony with everyone else here in India. The old colonial system didn't understand how to segregate us as an identifiable community. Don't believe me? Please do visit Bodh Gaya as a tourist. You will see it everywhere. Come to my state Sikkim. I welcome you to. Go to any of the mountainous states in India.

Go the centre of Andhra Pradesh and you will see it there.

Furthermore, you visit any southeast asian country and you will see both beautifully entwined, yet distinct just as it always has been.

The beauty of our faith is that we are syncretic.

No one wants to discriminate you, but your own so-called clerics that you see on the TV, by alienating you from everything that you are. Yes. No single monk or cleric has the right to decide anything; whether it is a Buddhist monk, Hindu pandit, Muslim maulvi or Christian padre or anyone else.

That tolerant system is here not because of secularism that the British left here; they only left the divisions that we are still fighting over. It is because of the tolerant system we have always had long before the Europeans came.
Which is why we have Parsis, Jews, Syrian Christians etc when Hindu kings in the western parts of India accepted them with open arms. That speaks a lot about the system our Hindu brothers have practised for millennia.

On the other hand, the Hindus, Sikhs and even we have been exterminated from everywhere wherever we were at the peak, be it Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh. And these were done under the radar. Which is why they and even we feel vulnerable.

Name me one of these countries which have retained the same amount or growing minorities of non-Muslim nature over all these years. None.

Now tell me, is the concern for demographic change not a little bit also relevant?

The right wing is a result of these events constantly repeating themselves throughout much of the history.

I wasn't even aware of communal tensions until I was exposed to these situations during my stay out of my native state.

It is nothing else.

You won't be happier anywhere else in the world than where you are.

Just don't forget that your traditions pre-date your adapted choice of faith. Let both co-exist harmoniously.

No one is judging you.

 

[hussain0216]

Bhai sahab, There is nothing like the marginalisation that a few people like to point.

Buddhism hasn't vanished anywhere. It lives in harmony with everyone else here in India. The old colonial system didn't understand how to segregate us as an identifiable community. Don't believe me? Please do visit Bodh Gaya as a tourist. You will see it everywhere. Come to my state Sikkim. I welcome you to. Go to any of the mountainous states in India.

Go the centre of Andhra Pradesh and you will see it there.

Furthermore, you visit any southeast asian country and you will see both beautifully entwined, yet distinct just as it always has been.

The beauty of our faith is that we are syncretic.

No one wants to discriminate you, but your own so-called clerics that you see on the TV, by alienating you from everything that you are. Yes. No single monk or cleric has the right to decide anything; whether it is a Buddhist monk, Hindu pandit, Muslim maulvi or Christian padre or anyone else.

That tolerant system is here not because of secularism that the British left here; they only left the divisions that we are still fighting over. It is because of the tolerant system we have always had long before the Europeans came.
Which is why we have Parsis, Jews, Syrian Christians etc when Hindu kings in the western parts of India accepted them with open arms. That speaks a lot about the system our Hindu brothers have practised for millennia.

On the other hand, the Hindus, Sikhs and even we have been exterminated from everywhere wherever we were at the peak, be it Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh. And these were done under the radar. Which is why they and even we feel vulnerable.

Name me one of these countries which have retained the same amount or growing minorities of non-Muslim nature over all these years. None.

Now tell me, is the concern for demographic change not a little bit also relevant?

The right wing is a result of these events constantly repeating themselves throughout much of the history.

I wasn't even aware of communal tensions until I was exposed to these situations during my stay out of my native state.

It is nothing else.

You won't be happier anywhere else in the world than where you are.

Just don't forget that your traditions pre-date your adapted choice of faith. Let both co-exist harmoniously.

No one is judging you.

None of the wishy washy rose tinted crap you just said is based in reality or related to the hindu banana republic India is becoming now

 

[adil_minhas]

Bhai sahab, There is nothing like the marginalisation that a few people like to point.

Buddhism hasn't vanished anywhere. It lives in harmony with everyone else here in India. The old colonial system didn't understand how to segregate us as an identifiable community. Don't believe me? Please do visit Bodh Gaya as a tourist. You will see it everywhere. Come to my state Sikkim. I welcome you to. Go to any of the mountainous states in India.

Go the centre of Andhra Pradesh and you will see it there.

Furthermore, you visit any southeast asian country and you will see both beautifully entwined, yet distinct just as it always has been.

The beauty of our faith is that we are syncretic.

No one wants to discriminate you, but your own so-called clerics that you see on the TV, by alienating you from everything that you are. Yes. No single monk or cleric has the right to decide anything; whether it is a Buddhist monk, Hindu pandit, Muslim maulvi or Christian padre or anyone else.

That tolerant system is here not because of secularism that the British left here; they only left the divisions that we are still fighting over. It is because of the tolerant system we have always had long before the Europeans came.
Which is why we have Parsis, Jews, Syrian Christians etc when Hindu kings in the western parts of India accepted them with open arms. That speaks a lot about the system our Hindu brothers have practised for millennia.

On the other hand, the Hindus, Sikhs and even we have been exterminated from everywhere wherever we were at the peak, be it Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh. And these were done under the radar. Which is why they and even we feel vulnerable.

Name me one of these countries which have retained the same amount or growing minorities of non-Muslim nature over all these years. None.

Now tell me, is the concern for demographic change not a little bit also relevant?

The right wing is a result of these events constantly repeating themselves throughout much of the history.

I wasn't even aware of communal tensions until I was exposed to these situations during my stay out of my native state.

It is nothing else.

You won't be happier anywhere else in the world than where you are.

Just don't forget that your traditions pre-date your adapted choice of faith. Let both co-exist harmoniously.

No one is judging you.

Will reply. Taking off.

Cheers.

 

[StraightShooter]

So you cannot change your national anthem but can will force to change someone's faith.
Nice test.
Change your faith or you are not patriotic.

We surely can change if there anything wrong.

The people who find fault with current one would find fault with the one too.

It is not the song but the person refusing to sing is the issue.