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I was comparing radars of MKI and eurofighter in #Indradhanush15 context.Then,some users said the following:
Most fighters don't use their own radars any ways.
You can detect an enemy radar twice as far a they can detect you. Using your radar broadcasts. Your location at light speed to everyone in the area
That is why awacs are so important. The jets remain dark. Remain in datalink range and launch their radar guided missiles using a much more powerful and better controlled radar system.
All of this chit chat about who has a better radar is kind of moot. Fighters don't use them.
I am curious about the scenario. I've seen interesting ones where a defender group had to defend an area using only ground based radar vs enemy air based radar. It did not work out well for the defenders. The ability to data link with the awacs and launch your bvr missiles without activating your own and effectively announcing your attack is a really big deal.
It's simple math.
Let's say my radar can produce enough energy and is sensitive enough to detect you at 100 miles. The radio waves travel 100 miles, bounce off your airplane, travel the 100 miles back and is read by my plane.
Effective distance traveled 200 miles.
That means at 200 miles away a third aircraft is receiving the same radar emissions at the same exact strength as I am. Inverse square law is applied.
Intelligence folks are pretty damn good at estimating detection ranges for radar equipment.
So in the scenario where you know you're well within their radar coverage, it would be prudent to energize your own. But absent that coverage, energizing your radar only announces your presence to people who may have not known you were there.
I would like to know more about the bold parts.
Is this a realistic scenario in BVR combat? If a third a/c can detects radar waves then can he track and fire a BVR without getting in to enemy's radar field ?
@Oscar @sancho @500 @Manticore @SBD-3 @gambit @SpArK
Most fighters don't use their own radars any ways.
You can detect an enemy radar twice as far a they can detect you. Using your radar broadcasts. Your location at light speed to everyone in the area
That is why awacs are so important. The jets remain dark. Remain in datalink range and launch their radar guided missiles using a much more powerful and better controlled radar system.
All of this chit chat about who has a better radar is kind of moot. Fighters don't use them.
I am curious about the scenario. I've seen interesting ones where a defender group had to defend an area using only ground based radar vs enemy air based radar. It did not work out well for the defenders. The ability to data link with the awacs and launch your bvr missiles without activating your own and effectively announcing your attack is a really big deal.
It's simple math.
Let's say my radar can produce enough energy and is sensitive enough to detect you at 100 miles. The radio waves travel 100 miles, bounce off your airplane, travel the 100 miles back and is read by my plane.
Effective distance traveled 200 miles.
That means at 200 miles away a third aircraft is receiving the same radar emissions at the same exact strength as I am. Inverse square law is applied.
Intelligence folks are pretty damn good at estimating detection ranges for radar equipment.
So in the scenario where you know you're well within their radar coverage, it would be prudent to energize your own. But absent that coverage, energizing your radar only announces your presence to people who may have not known you were there.
I would like to know more about the bold parts.
Is this a realistic scenario in BVR combat? If a third a/c can detects radar waves then can he track and fire a BVR without getting in to enemy's radar field ?
@Oscar @sancho @500 @Manticore @SBD-3 @gambit @SpArK
