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But I admit it is difficult to replace Youtube for non-Chinese. In the web industry, the market is very harsh to late comers. And another big obstacle for Chinese companies is the language-----English.

US software and sites like Youtube support dozens of languages. English and Chinese are just two in a sea.

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Huawei indeed fired all their US staff but it's not because they are losing revenue; instead Huawei moved their jobs to Italy.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/23/huawei-lays-off-two-thirds-of-us-researchers/
Huawei lays off two thirds of its US research division
"Simply put, the researchers can't do their jobs now that it's illegal for Futurewei to transfer much of its work to its parent company.
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This still leaves roughly 1,200 Huawei employees in the US,"
 
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Huawei Confirms Another Nasty Surprise For Mate 30 Buyers

There have now been three days of feverish speculation as to whether Huawei will find a workaround for users to overcome the lack of Google software and services on its new flagship Mate 30 smartphones. Google’s core services and software, including Gmail, YouTube and Google Maps, cannot be made available unless its core Play Services are also installed.

The company’s smartphone boss had suggested a complex workaround, enabling users to unlock access to the very core of its phones, installing Google core services at a system level—creating excitement in the technical community. But now it seems that he was wrong: Huawei has confirmed this will not happen, after all. Unless and until there is a lifting of the U.S. blacklist, its users will seemingly just have to go without.

So, put simply, Huawei’s smartphone boss said the company would make a change to enable a complex install process for Google services onto its Mate 30 devices, and then the company reached out to say, actually, that’s not the case at all. Not good.

Most U.S. apps—even the likes of Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram—will be available to install on the Mate 30 from other app stores. But not Google’s core services and software. Huawei has already confirmed they will not ship with the Mate 30 devices. To after-market install those services would mean users unlocking the bootloader on their devices.

Despite outlawing the practice for security reasons some time ago, there had been speculation the company would enable bootloader unlocking. Android Authority reported consumer boss Richard Yu saying “we limited it because we wanted to guarantee more security for consumers. But this time we will leave more freedom for the consumers so they can do more customization by themselves. So we are planning to let consumers do that.”

Essentially, Huawei’s consumer boss had told the media the process would be enabled, substantiating his previous comments that there would be “workarounds.”

But alas this will not be the case. As I suggested, this would be too complex and risky for the vast majority of Huawei’s users, and it would put Google in a difficult position with the U.S. government if it was seen to be accommodating a workaround. In an update to its story, Android Authority has now reported that a Huawei spokesperson had reached out clarify that, despite Yu’s comments, the company has “no plans to unlock the bootloader on Mate 30 devices.”

In reality, millions of users were never likely to “root” their devices and customize their ROMs in any case, not with its inherent effort and, worse, security risks. But some more technical users would do exactly that, and on balance this was seen as a poor idea on a number of fronts.

In the meantime, and as I’ve said before, there is maybe a learning in this for Yu himself. The consumer boss claimed a new “faster than Android” OS would be available soon after the blacklist came into effect. As it transpired, though, we were given HarmonyOS which isn’t a replacement for Android on smartphones at all. And then, when Google dropped its support for the Mate 30, Yu told us that the phones would be unlocked as a workaround. Now that doesn’t seem to be the case. There’s maybe some message management required.

This doesn’t rule out some other option being found, but it is hard to see how the company can workaround the lack of Google Mobile Services on its devices without such a move. “How this choice will impact those wanting to sideload Google Play Services,” Android Authority commented, “is as yet unknown and we don’t yet know if this decision may be revised in future. With no Google Play Services and no Google apps out of the box, the Mate 30 series has a pretty serious uphill battle on its hands in the West—Huawei declined to comment any further on the bootloader situation.”

Earlier I reported that Huawei has taken the next steps in its moves to widen the developer ecosystem for its own variant of unlicensed Android and its emerging HarmonyOS alternative. In reality, this is the direction of travel for the company in lieu of a significant change in Washington’s stance. The prize for getting this right will be huge, but the company will shed users on the way as they likely elect to stick with the tried and tested full-fat Android they have today. Huawei will keep focused on the long game and the rest of us will watch to see what happens.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...ms-another-nasty-surprise-for-mate-30-buyers/



Everything done by smartphone itself. No need use PC connect or whatever. Just like installing google play store apps.
 
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It seems to be otherwise, IMO Google will have a painful era ahead. Now Google should prepare to start a battle of their survival.
Just take an example of automotive industry. About two decades ago, GMC and Chevy were big brand names, now you rarely find them.
RR (aeronautical division) just surviving due non-transparency in their deals.
Sooner or later, western/USA dominance in civil aviation will also be over.
The miracle of China is that they make access of common man to technological benefits cheap and easy, which was previously only dedicated to wealthiest/elites.
Wishful thinking. Cheap sells in the case of appliances because these are not expected to last long and can be easily replaced.

However, quality is necessary in commerical and/or massive home projects. And quality = expensive, be it from China or USA.

GM did not focus on Asian markets, this is why Japanese took over.

China can never substitute for every Western and/or foreign brand out there. Expect many countries to shield domestic industries from foreign exploitation and/or takeovers. How can it be economically feasible otherwise? The entire world will crash and burn.
 
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And the vast majority of consumers won’t....
Yet the root community is eager to get hold of some high-end smartphone that is friendly to root. Me included. That is usually where unexpected innovations come. Ordinary smartphones are loaded with craps because of the business synergy that drives profit. But these craps really hinder consumers from finding creative use of their phones.
 
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Everything done by smartphone itself. No need use PC connect or whatever. Just like installing google play store apps.

In other words, open your browser and go here:

http://www.lzplay.net/#/

Hit the big blue button and download the APK file.

And you got Google Play Store in 5 minutes.:lol:

The APK file does all the work. No need to be tech savvy.
 
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Yet the root community is eager to get hold of some high-end smartphone that is friendly to root.
Its bizzare how rooting suddenly is sold like some big obstacle and strange thing to customer if you'd believe (mainly U.S) propaganda about Huawei, while every corner shop offers this service these days and 3rd party vendors even advertise that as a key feature of 2nd hand phones or free service when buying a new one.
 
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Its bizzare how rooting suddenly is sold like some big obstacle and strange thing to customer if you'd believe (mainly U.S) propaganda about Huawei, while every corner shop offers this service these days and 3rd party vendors even advertise that as a key feature of 2nd hand phones or free service when buying a new one.
Rooting is always for a small community of hackers, not for general public.
 
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Rooting is always for a small community of hackers, not for general public.
Always was over 10 years ago. Rooting and jailbreaking has become a completely mainstream concept to anyone with a general affinity for computers which is already a large community. Most people just dont really see any major benefits in whats currently on the table for them for rooting a device. That doesnt mean its inaccessible. But the whole narrative is exactly the other way around, that there may be interest but its a thing of impossibility. The only real barrier and mental and principal one is the trade off of the warranty loss for a brand new premium phone.
 
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Wishful thinking. Cheap sells in the case of appliances because these are not expected to last long and can be easily replaced.

Appliances are not expected to last long? You replace your fridge every day?

I don't think you understand business at all. Home appliances are classified under consumer durables, in the same category as cars. And even cheap industrial products are not expected to just go offline, there's real reputation costs to this stuff.
 
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It would be a major blow to Huawei...however they will survive in their domestic market at the very least. The Chinese ppl already buy Huawei phones in large numbers and if this whole thing is presented as "American unfairness towards the Chinese" or "Huawei standing up to American Monopoly(iOS, Android)" then it will further increase domestic consumption of Huawei's products. This in turn will give them enough time to develop their software until eventually they will have a competitor to iOS and android. If things continue like this...Huawei will no doubt lose millions if not more...but in the long run Google will end up being responsible for the creation of a new third operating system that would probably eventually keep millions of ppl out of Google's reach(by having an OS other than android).
Hundreds of millions of people at least.
 
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