Shiv Sena wants 'Secular' word to be removed from Indian Constitution

[Srinivas]

Srinivas the problem is that desis while trying to appease the west are trying to deprive the religious people of their constitutional right to adopt politics.

Me and you forget that in majority of the countries these organizations are POLITICAL in nature too or one way or the other way linked to political set-up.

The basic idea is that state and religion should not be combined. There are various examples from the history in the middle ages through out the world.
One reason is Religion brings a mythical being called GOD and try to show him as the 'cause and effect" for the bad things happen to the society. But rational and progressive constitution makes people think in a right way to address the issue.

Religion creates a parallel power structure which often contradicts with state affairs.

So the idea of separating state and religion is a good one, faith is between GOD and human. However people are free to practice their beliefs. Majority people follow Hinduism so it is natural for Hinduism to grow along with rise of India, so the idea that religion is being oppressed is not correct.

There is a sudden rise in Bhakti movement and people are building biggest temples and are also donating to religious cause.

The biggest religious organization RSS sees people of India as culturally Hindu and they encourage Muslim youth as well.

Hindu organizations while spreading their faith have to do it within the constitutional guidelines.

 

[mujhaidind]

For you are not special, Muslims in India will only get, what any other Indian will. Nothing more..Nothing less!!

Then what Obama hinted, will become true(dis-integration).

Gandhi and Nehru promised special treatment to Muslims if they stayed back. That's an unfulfilled promised.

Do we kill you? Do we rape your women? Do we forcefully convert you? Do we destroy your mosques? Do we tell you where and when you can pray and how loudly?
Be honest. Don't troll.

You don't do that because you are scared of us and the consquences. Not because you're kind.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You still haven't answered how any of the things you said is reason for not inserting secularism in the constitution.

How can I write if I am illiterate?
The question is not why NOT inserting. But why inserting?

 

[Iggy]

))))))))))))))))))))))) that is highly debatable.

There is nothing to ve debated about it.the fact that minorities still living here and theie population increases itself shows that this country and its majority Hindu people are more tolerant than many countries out there.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

How can I write if I am illiterate?
The question is not why NOT inserting. But why inserting?

Why should we be stopped from clearly saying that we will create an equal society?

 

[ares]

Then what Obama hinted, will become true(dis-integration).

Gandhi and Nehru promised special treatment to Muslims if they stayed back. That's an unfulfilled promised.

There will be no special or unfair treatment to any community in India.

That is what being secular means!! and Gandhi and Nehru made sure of that, when they created India as a secular republic.

If you want special treatment, you can move to, which ever country that gives you such.

 

[doppelganger]

You don't do that because you are scared of us and the consquences. Not because you're kind.

Please don't talk like Owaisi man.

Every time you get really obnoxious, you are reminded how to live in a civilized secular society. Bihar. UP. Maharashtra. Gujarat.

Please realize you are here to stay. And we are not going anywhere. This nation is not going to become a muslim theocracy. And we will always outnumber you.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Why should we be stopped from clearly saying that we will create an equal society?

Our Articles stress on that clearly. You don't two words in the preamble to be secular.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

i dont think so, electeions are sheduled in my home state in bihar this year and its surely bjp this time, people havent forgeted those lawlessness and jungle raj days of Lalu no way in hell people are gonna let him return.

It is in the nature of people who depend upon prestige alone to retain power- once they get challenged in one place, they start falling apart everywhere.

 

[mujhaidind]

Every time you get really obnoxious, you are reminded how to live in a civilized secular society. Bihar. UP. Maharashtra. Gujarat.

Please realize you are here to stay. And we are not going anywhere. This nation is not going to become a muslim theocracy. And we will always outnumber you.

Fake Census data doesn't mean shit. They even showed that Christians are only 2% when everyone knows that in UPA's 10 years there were massive conversions.

Even in urban areas educated Muslims have 4-5 kids. You do the math

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Our Articles stress on that clearly. You don't two words in the preamble to be secular.

So? Just because there are articles which mean the same things, why should we not insert it in the preamble? The preamble is meant to give an introduction, and an introduction should convey the complete sense.

Fake Census data doesn't mean shit. They even showed that Christians are only 2% when everyone knows that in UPA's 10 years there were massive conversions.

Even in urban areas educated Muslims have 4-5 kids. You do the math

Goddamn false-flagger.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

It is in the nature of people who depend upon prestige alone to retain power- once they get challenged in one place, they start falling apart everywhere.

All BJP needs to do is to send Rahul to campaign for Congress again.

 

[doppelganger]

Fake Census data doesn't mean shit. They even showed that Christians are only 2% when everyone knows that in UPA's 10 years there were massive conversions.

Even in urban areas educated Muslims have 4-5 kids. You do the math

I don't need to do math.

I just need to make sure I ensure you learn how to live in a civilized secular society.

By repeated positive reinforcements if need be.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

The preamble is meant to give an introduction, and an introduction should convey the complete sense.

Note: I actually liked this man, BEFORE he became PM.
IF preamble gives the whole info, why even have a huge Constitution?

 

[mujhaidind]

Goddamn false-flagger.

Don't you have something better to do? Like bending over for your pastor.

 

[doppelganger]

Note: I actually liked this man, BEFORE he became PM.

Same here.

Lol did you see the joker and his wife in color matched beige overcoats sitting morosely in the rain on Republic Day?