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Shiv Sena to Muslims: For special treatment, go to Pakistan

I do not agree. We all migrated and the borders were closed before all muslims from Indian occupied parts migrated. I haven't seen my nana, but I feel he wanted to migrate to Pakistan but circumstances held him back. Both my parents were born in Lucknow and chose Pakistan. My nana married almost every daughter to Pakistanis. He was one of the main proponents of Pakistan.

We should at least accept these people as we were supposed to be a bastion for all oppressed people in the subcontinent-not even just muslims.

It is unfinished agenda of two nation theory which sulks both the country till now. But now nothing can be done about it. Its a shut case. There wont be many mulslims in India who will prefer to go Pakistan now. India is their home.
 
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yes... true...
we owe our mistake ..
that soul was with you for paying your money allocated and you gave us war with same money which that time govt feared and due to which money was on hold....
when even you dig hisotry you find 99 % time paksitan in wrong side of hisotry
Iam sure you understand my message, Gandhi was killed by Zealot factors of society for being so vibrant.
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But Iam more concerned with "what happened next" instead of proclaiming good INTENTIONS

- We wont received any Money due on your side....we took a loan from Nawab of dukkan to run state affairs
- Your side invaded Kashmir....presenting fake documents of maharaja
- Your side promised PLEBISCITE under the observation of UN ....which wont happened???
- Ayub khan offered NEHRU for Joint Alliance against any outside invasion.....Nehru Rejected by saying a very famous statment...."Joint alliance against Whom???
- We wont invaded in 1962 against your war with china......and now SURELY we regret that day
- 1971 Unforgettable.........whn your side deliberately attacked country which already fell into in Political Chaos ....and you wont have any justifications to prove it legal ........your generals have written books on it......how u trained Mukti bahnis to enroach us ...(again look at ur SIZE)
- CHEAP MENTALITY TILL NOW.........you are a big country but your side Lack ethos and Manners of behaviours to deal with small country.....like
a) Invaded siachin.....for no reason....(Look ur size & actions)
b) Cricked BAN Diplomacy.......(so much cheap act)
c) in 1990's Ban Pakistani Airlines to use Indian space....When we SPANKED your side resulted in great Loss t0 Indian airlines...you come to touch our knees to lift the BAN........(So cheap.....look at ur size)
d) BAN on Diplomatic talks......then lift again to continue....then again BAN......yes/no.........up to infinity??
 
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They wanted to go, but there was blood bath at the border so they remained where ever they are. Better not to go. Gandhi was another factor

Migration was the process that lasted for years not just days, weeks or months. People like Moulana Azad always considered themselves true Indian so they stayed on purpose. They are Indians at heart, such statements and their interpretations must have been hurting them.
 
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I do not agree. We all migrated and the borders were closed before all muslims from Indian occupied parts migrated. I haven't seen my nana, but I feel he wanted to migrate to Pakistan but circumstances held him back. Both my parents were born in Lucknow and chose Pakistan. My nana married almost every daughter to Pakistanis. He was one of the main proponents of Pakistan.

We should at least accept these people as we were supposed to be a bastion for all oppressed people in the subcontinent-not even just muslims.

No. We are much better served by having Indian Muslims outbreed the Hindus over a period of 50 years. Sikh, Christians are also working towards that end.
 
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No. We are much better served by having Indian Muslims outbreed the Hindus over a period of 50 years. Sikh, Christians are also working towards that end.

But the RSS is doing "Ghar Waapsi" what will happen then????
 
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Iam sure you understand my message, Gandhi was killed by Zealot factors of society for being so vibrant.
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But Iam more concerned with "what happened next" instead of proclaiming good INTENTIONS

- We wont received any Money due on your side....we took a loan from Nawab of dukkan to run state affairs
it was nawab of hydrabad .. read glory of rzzakars

- Your side invaded Kashmir....presenting fake documents of maharaja.
n October 1947 tribesmen from Pakistan invaded Kashmir, spurred by reports of attacks on Muslims and frustrated by Hari Singh's delaying tactics.The Maharaja asked for Indian military assistance.
BBC News - Kashmir profile - Overview
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- Your side promised PLEBISCITE under the observation of UN ....which wont happened???
we said but not under threat of terrosit which you sent which prrof is above bbc link

- Ayub khan offered NEHRU for Joint Alliance against any outside invasion.....Nehru Rejected by saying a very famous
statment...."Joint alliance against Whom???
yes JA againt whom ? afg ? iran ?
The founding fathers of the Non-aligned movement were: Sukarno of Indonesia, Jawaharlal Nehru of India, Josip Broz Tito of Yugoslavia, Gamal Abdul Nasser of Egypt and Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana. Their actions were known as 'The Initiative of Five'.
Non-Aligned Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


- We wont invaded in 1962 against your war with china......and now SURELY we regret that day
so we beg you not to do so.. or you made favour on us ?
- 1971 Unforgettable.........whn your side deliberately attacked country which already fell into in Political Chaos ....and you wont have any justifications to prove it legal ........your generals have written books on it......how u trained Mukti bahnis to enroach us ...(again look at ur SIZE)
BBC News - Bangladesh war: The article that changed history

On June 13, 1971, Mascarenhas wrote an article titled “Genocide” in the Times. In the article, he pointed out that there were in fact two horrors to the Bangladesh tragedy. One was committed by Bengali troops and paramilitary personnel stationed in East Pakistan who mutinied in early March 1971 and put to death many non-Bengalis and Biharis. The second horror, he wrote, was committed by Pakistani forces that in a punitive response to the killings of non-Bengalis at the hands of the mutineers and their accomplices, initiated a military operation codenamed ‘Operation Searchlight’ on the night of March 25, 1971.
Why Pakistan should apologise to Bangladesh – The Express Tribune
Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
Date 3–16 December 1971
NOW TELL ME YOUR VIEW

- CHEAP MENTALITY TILL NOW.........you are a big country but your side Lack ethos and Manners of behaviours to deal with small country.....like
its not being small or big .. its being right
being small/ lage e you make crime world will punish you irrespeict of size

a) Invaded siachin.....for no reason....(Look ur size & actions)
read mor eabout it on 3rd party good soruce you wil get clear picture
b) Cricked BAN Diplomacy.......(so much cheap act)
you kill our people in mumbai trian bomb blast and then in 26/11 then in other part of country amd you think we will play cricket
c) in 1990's Ban Pakistani Airlines to use Indian space....When we SPANKED your side resulted in great Loss t0 Indian airlines...you come to touch our knees to lift the BAN........(So cheap.....look at ur size)
show what you talkin about

d) BAN on Diplomatic talks......then lift again to continue....then again BAN......yes/no.........up to infinity??
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We protect our people from any harm and will do everything for it..
where osama got ..where terrorst got trained .. pak ..
this is now not only our words but world
 
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BBC News - Bangladesh war: The article that changed history

On June 13, 1971, Mascarenhas wrote an article titled “Genocide” in the Times. In the article, he pointed out that there were in fact two horrors to the Bangladesh tragedy. One was committed by Bengali troops and paramilitary personnel stationed in East Pakistan who mutinied in early March 1971 and put to death many non-Bengalis and Biharis. The second horror, he wrote, was committed by Pakistani forces that in a punitive response to the killings of non-Bengalis at the hands of the mutineers and their accomplices, initiated a military operation codenamed ‘Operation Searchlight’ on the night of March 25, 1971.
Why Pakistan should apologise to Bangladesh – The Express Tribune
Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
Date 3–16 December 1971

NOW TELL ME YOUR VIEW


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relgion bases reservation is not aviabl to any one in india
even said party said same thing in same article
what wrong in this
Taking umbrage at Owaisi's tone and tenor, the Shiv Sena reiterated its stance that reservations policy must be based on social criteria and not religious lines. "The poorest of poor Muslim should be given reservation, not because he is a Muslim, but because he is a citizen of India," the party said.
As long as Pakistan is not involved in their rhetoric, I don't care what they say.
 
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No. We are much better served by having Indian Muslims outbreed the Hindus over a period of 50 years. Sikh, Christians are also working towards that end.

And become victims of the Indian narrative and support traitors like Abdul Kalam Azad. I think we by failing to integrate them made a mistake. My nana is a Lucknowi-always supported Pakistan till his death. Both my parents were born in Lucknow with my mom living the better part of her life there. Both are stauchly Pakistani today.

We made a mistake by not trying to integrate the Muslims and show them that we supported them. They could be a weapon in any war with India. I am from Lucknow and proudly call myself Pakistan. I was lucky to be born in Islamabad. I have family on both sides and I feel the ones left there were just unfortunate.

My mammoo who was killed and had stayed on in Lucknow told me "Muslims left in Indian occupied cities unequivocally supported Pakista in the beginning. There were bets on Pakistan winning cricket matches with fights between muslims and hindus occurring due to muslims support for Pakistan.

The longer the muslims are under the Indian yoke, they become more and more "Indian" and less and less sympathetic to Pakistan. It is only a natural reaction, a survival instinct I would call it so that they can integrate. Lets note we are the same people. 75%+ of all muslims and 90%+ of UP muslims voted for Quaid E Azam's all India Muslim League. Its purpose: Divide India and create a Pakistan.
 
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Why do Shiv's soldiers always propose Pakistan? Indian Muslims had a choice but they didn't avail, now it over. We have nothing in common except religion but that's true for rest of the Muslim world too. Pakistan is a home to Pakistanis not a home to Muslims from all across the world.
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appriciate your view
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Shive sena
has policts which is cant term as anti indian muslim but they have extreme view
MIM - owasi deemding relgion based reseration for mulsim which is not aviable to any relgion in india
even in same artile there stnad is clear
"If they (Muslims) want anything from this country, they must first accept India as their motherland and proclaim 'Vande Mataram'. They cannot demand freedom and yet continue to cling to their religion," the party said in a sharp edit in their mouthpiece Saamna.
Shiv Sena reiterated its stance that reservations policy must be based on social criteria and not religious lines. "The poorest of poor Muslim should be given reservation, not because he is a Muslim, but because he is a citizen of India," the party said.

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pakistani home of pakistani
that should be the case
but same pakistani memebrs go full on when somthing worng happned with muslim in india
then they come with ummah .. borthhood ...
still gujrat 2000 riots thread on pdf . see previous post of even TTs its exactly opposite on thier lanaguge on this thread .sorry to say... i may be wrong
pakistani are less concern for their petriol crisis , shia suni divde , education , economy
than palestine .. indian muslim .. gujrat . modi ..
but go silent on mulsim on xinaing china
 
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Pakistan is not a refugee camp. Indian Muslims are not welcomed here.

That's fine Indian Muslims prefer Indian more than Pakistan,at least here they will be safe
 
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And become victims of the Indian narrative and support traitors like Abdul Kalam Azad. I think we by failing to integrate them made a mistake. My nana is a Lucknowi-always supported Pakistan till his death. Both my parents were born in Lucknow with my mom living the better part of her life there. Both are stauchly Pakistani today.

We made a mistake by not trying to integrate the Muslims and show them that we supported them. They could be a weapon in any war with India. I am from Lucknow and proudly call myself Pakistan. I was lucky to be born in Islamabad. I have family on both sides and I feel the ones left there were just unfortunate.

My mammoo who was killed and had stayed on in Lucknow told me "Muslims left in Indian occupied cities unequivocally supported Pakista in the beginning. There were bets on Pakistan winning cricket matches with fights between muslims and hindus occurring due to muslims support for Pakistan.

The longer the muslims are under the Indian yoke, they become more and more "Indian" and less and less sympathetic to Pakistan. It is only a natural reaction, a survival instinct I would call it so that they can integrate. Lets note we are the same people. 75%+ of all muslims and 90%+ of UP muslims voted for Quaid E Azam's all India Muslim League. Its purpose: Divide India and create a Pakistan.
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support traitors like Abdul Kalam Azad
please refrain from using such words..
he is one of fredom figter we ahve
just he is being opposite side does not make him tratir
is this not same way TTP trates .. my version is true islam and even USA my way of hihgh w
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they choose their land .. we are no one to degrade them..
 
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And become victims of the Indian narrative and support traitors like Abdul Kalam Azad. I think we by failing to integrate them made a mistake. My nana is a Lucknowi-always supported Pakistan till his death. Both my parents were born in Lucknow with my mom living the better part of her life there. Both are stauchly Pakistani today.

We made a mistake by not trying to integrate the Muslims and show them that we supported them. They could be a weapon in any war with India. I am from Lucknow and proudly call myself Pakistan. I was lucky to be born in Islamabad. I have family on both sides and I feel the ones left there were just unfortunate.

My mammoo who was killed and had stayed on in Lucknow told me "Muslims left in Indian occupied cities unequivocally supported Pakista in the beginning. There were bets on Pakistan winning cricket matches with fights between muslims and hindus occurring due to muslims support for Pakistan.

The longer the muslims are under the Indian yoke, they become more and more "Indian" and less and less sympathetic to Pakistan. It is only a natural reaction, a survival instinct I would call it so that they can integrate. Lets note we are the same people. 75%+ of all muslims and 90%+ of UP muslims voted for Quaid E Azam's all India Muslim League. Its purpose: Divide India and create a Pakistan.
You do realize that most of them are dead now

Kashmir is not India nor Kashmiris are Indians.

Itnee saal hogaye kaabh lene ayooge Kashmir
 
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