Shenyang J-15 aircraft carrier-based aircraft

[SpArK]

i didnt said that its not good...i was mentionin his comparisn thats all..

Whatever it is. Copied or not , it has landed on a fighter and can fire latest Chinese missiles.

Objective is more important, not the path.

 

[seven7seven]

China's J-15 fighter superior to Russian Su-33
(People's Daily Online)
08:52, December 06, 2012

On Nov. 25, 2012, China's carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet has successfully undergone a series of sailing and technological tests on the Liaoning, China's first aircraft carrier, marking a great success of the carrier-borne fighter jet independently developed by China and a major breakthrough in the development of aircraft carrier technology.

The J-15 is equipped with two high-power engines and a brand-new system of high lift device, takeoff and landing device and arrester hook. Its wing can be folded up to both maintain the excellent combat capability and meet the special requirement of landing on the Liaoning. Featuring large combat radius, excellent maneuvering performance and high bombs carrying capacity, the J-15 has a fighting capability of full sea and full airspace.

Foreign media especially Russian media guessed that the J-15 is a copy of Russian Su-33 carrier-borne fighter jet because its appearance is similar to Su-33. In this regard, spokesman of the Ministry of National Defense of China Geng Yansheng said on Nov. 29, "The world military affairs have an objective law of development. Many weapons have the same design principle and some command and protection methods are also similar. Therefore, it at least is non-professional to conclude that China copied the aircraft carrier technology of other countries only by simply comparison.”

First, J-15 has an avionics more advanced than Su-33. Su-33 is equipped with old-fashioned ARINC429 discrete avionics system of one-way low-speed data bus, while J-15 adopts joint avionics system of bidirectional data bus.

TS-100, the Su-33's fire-control computer, has a computing speed of only 170,000 times per second, while the J-15's fire-control computer has an estimated computing speed of over several million times per second.

The J-15 owns a much more advanced radar system than the Su-33. Due to its backward avionics system, the Su-33 can only serve as interceptors, and is incapable of air-to-ground precision strike.

The J-15 adopts improved materials and production techniques, and thus has greater strength and lighter weight.

Finally, the J-15 is powered by home-made Taihang (WS-10) turbofan engine, which is more powerful than the Su-33's engine. Overall, the J-15 is superior to the Su-33, and is comparable to world-class carrier-based aircraft such as the United States' F-18 and France's Rafale.

http://english.people.com.cn/90786/8047787.html

 

[seven7seven]

Yes it might be superior no doubts but still it is a COPY of Russian Su-33.

Copy or not, if it protects your country, it doesn't matter. India needs to get away from this noble notion that playing fair will get you respect because it will not. All countries engage in espionage and it's commonly accepted that you do what you have to do to get whatever intelligence you need. At the end of day, power is power, and nobody gives a damn how you got it, because once you gain that power, nobody is in a position to tell you what you can or can't do.

 

[Obambam]

Copy or not, if it protects your country, it doesn't matter. India needs to get away from this noble notion that playing fair will get you respect because it will not. All countries engage in espionage and it's commonly accepted that you do what you have to do to get whatever intelligence you need. At the end of day, power is power, and nobody gives a damn how you got it, because once you gain that power, nobody is in a position to tell you what you can or can't do.

Well said. Being noble will not win you wars. Russians themselves are guilty of the charge. Right after the second world war , 1947 to be precise, they illegally copied British Rolls-Royce turbojet engines and produced them under names - Klimov VK-1 and RD-500. They later captured, stripped naked the American Boeing B-29 Super fortress, copied and produced it under the name of "Tupolev Tu-4".
Even India was once guilty of the same. Their non licensed copy of the Kalashnikov AK-47 caught the Russians attention in an arms fair in Dheli.
USA was no different, under a project code named "Operation Paperclip".

This goes to show, getting strong often involves studying or copying of foreign technologies.

 

[BordoEnes]

Well said. Being noble will not win you wars. Russians themselves are guilty of the charge. Right after the second world war , 1947 to be precise, they illegally copied British Rolls-Royce turbojet engines and produced them under names - Klimov VK-1 and RD-500. They later captured, stripped naked the American Boeing B-29 Super fortress, copied and produced it under the name of "Tupolev Tu-4".
Even India was once guilty of the same. Their non licensed copy of the Kalashnikov AK-47 caught the Russians attention in an arms fair in Dheli.
USA was no different, under a project code named "Operation Paperclip".

This goes to show, getting strong often involves studying or copying of foreign technologies.

Not to mension about the German V2 Rocket, Both USA and Russia stole the technology and reintroduced it in there space program... Both Nations entire space program evolved from the German V2, Thanks to that USA even landed on the moon.

 

[S10]

TK-10 prototype developed into Su-33. The same prototype was purchased by China and developed into J-15, thus making it a parallel development. When two products are developed from the same concept, they are related, but not copies.

 

[April.lyrics]

well i must say history is not the excuse for pirate.

but whether u think chinese Flankers are pirates or not,SAC manages to assemble it with own devices.

 

[seabreeze]

Not just justify the pirating again, but again, human development is build upon each other's progress and knowledge, that's how we are.

What is the most innovative company in the world? Apple
Who is the man build the apple that made ipod, iphone, ipad possible? Steve Jobs
So he probably hated the most about pirating and copying, right? Wrong. Here's what he said:
"Good artists copy, great artists steal, we have been shameless to steal all great ideas." search youtube, you'll find that interview.

 

[Anony]

Which radar is integrated to J-15 ? Is it Klj-10 or any other mechanical array radar.

 

[Pak47]

^ joined in 2009 and making your first post in December 2012?

 

[ashok321]

Not just justify the pirating again, but again, human development is build upon each other's progress and knowledge, that's how we are.

What is the most innovative company in the world? Apple
Who is the man build the apple that made ipod, iphone, ipad possible? Steve Jobs
So he probably hated the most about pirating and copying, right? Wrong. Here's what he said:
"Good artists copy, great artists steal, we have been shameless to steal all great ideas." search youtube, you'll find that interview.

And the same apple co has audacity to sue samsung for concept copyrights violations for 2 billion dollars......
Hypocrisy is the lubricant of society.....

 

[seabreeze]

^ joined in 2009 and making your first post in December 2012?

I know, but this is not my first post. What happened to my previous ones?

 

[Black Widow]

What is the objective of this thread????

a) Look chinese have created Su33 replica from scratch (Not reffering T10's )
b) China has added subcomponent in Its own Su33 (which is called J15)?

As Russia is not providing sub-component of J15 (Su33) the subcomponents ought to be different,...

 

[Fsjal]

The J-15 uses the Su-33 airframe but with Chinese avionics, engines and weapons.

 

[giant panda]

The model of J-15 Flying Shark prototype 554