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Shenyang J-15 aircraft carrier-based aircraft

Lol after paying millions of dollars you get some not-so-stealthy crap that Russians built on USSR technology. What was India's role in the R&D process? Bill payer? Spent more time learning stuff and develop your own fighter no matter how and stop being jealous of what others have accomplished. Congrats China and welcome to the club.

The Russian T-50 and the Indian T-50 are two different programs. And it's still in prototype stages.
 
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The Russian T-50 and the Indian T-50 are two different programs. And it's still in prototype stages.

How different are they really? Different enigines? Different radar? What percentage is going to be different and what percentage of the plane is going to be DESIGNED in india?

What I suspect is india will provide the bulk of the cost of developing the FGFA, and the majority of RnD work will be done in Russia, very similar to the MKI. Not a true JV project. India waited too late, if it joined earlier in the development phase it could have got a better work share.

Anyway good luck to them, hope they atleast get some TOT, so they can move on to their next project (AMCA).
 
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# India and Russia will pay equal share of development.
# India will work on at least 25% of RnD independently.
# India will be co-owner of of FGFA, ie she can sell FGFA to other countries.
 
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The Russian T-50 would be a single seater. From what I've heard, it'd focus more on maneuverability than stealth unlike the F-22 and J-20.

The Indian one it seems, would be a two seater and would focus more on stealth, since they already have the MKI which is highly maneuverable.

No idea about the AMCA.
 
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Lol after paying millions of dollars you get some not-so-stealthy crap that Russians built on USSR technology. What was India's role in the R&D process? Bill payer? Spent more time learning stuff and develop your own fighter no matter how and stop being jealous of what others have accomplished. Congrats China and welcome to the club.

hey dont make fun of india, india has a very important role actually, india provides the paint job.
 
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Lol after paying millions of dollars you get some not-so-stealthy crap that Russians built on USSR technology. What was India's role in the R&D process? Bill payer? Spent more time learning stuff and develop your own fighter no matter how and stop being jealous of what others have accomplished. Congrats China and welcome to the club.

I am sorry, I am not aware that USSR build Stealth aircraft.
 
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Chinese j-15 is the copy of su-33
but why india is not making mig-29 and su-30
when china is making j-16 copy of su-30

J15 should be J11 + T10K, because its vertical fin is small than Su33, and same size of su27. it is more like su27 than su33.
 
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J15 should be J11 + T10K, because its vertical fin is small than Su33, and same size of su27. it is more like su27 than su33.

J-15 shares none of the components found in any Flanker besides its airframe.

J-15 should be a naval J-11B.
 
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How different are they really? Different enigines? Different radar? What percentage is going to be different and what percentage of the plane is going to be DESIGNED in india?

What I suspect is india will provide the bulk of the cost of developing the FGFA, and the majority of RnD work will be done in Russia, very similar to the MKI. Not a true JV project. India waited too late, if it joined earlier in the development phase it could have got a better work share.

Anyway good luck to them, hope they atleast get some TOT, so they can move on to their next project (AMCA).

there is no such thing called TOT transfer in terms of defense technology, taking Japan and S.Korea for example, they got lots TOT transfers from America and Europ in defense industry but everyone knows even there are the closest allie with U.S.A but still cannot develop state of art weapons independently given the fact that they are innovation driven economies.

but in India's case its still at primative stage of social development (1. primative society, 2. moving towards efficiency driven society, 3. efficiency society, 4.moving towards innovation driven society, 5. innovation driven society), where very lack at technological know-how to most civilian techs let alone defense techs. so it is always a joke when Indians talking about their 'innovative society' or 'IT superpower' status, whereas they dont know the fact that all the important works are done else where not india.

in terms of TOT, it is just a carrot stick played by smart russians to lure those ego thursty and unpragmatic indians.. lets make a extreem analogy, you can copy a methmatic answer for your homework from someone, it only means you know how to write the answer but not the methmatic logics behind that.
 
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