Shanghai sits top of the world in all catagories of PISA 2009 assessment in 2009

[ThatDamnGood]

High Test Scores, but China Education Flawed
High Test Rankings Mask Underlying Problems

By SHERISSE PHAM, Dec. 9, 2010

Yasheng Huang of M.I.T. said news that China came out on top in PISA is a far cry from a "Sputnik" moment, as Secretary of Education Arne Duncan called it.

Duncan's label made Huang think of another news maker out of China. When China sent its first astronaut into space in 2003, it prompted Jay Leno to joke that this would be big news ... if it was 1962. The same, said Huang, holds true for Chinese students outperforming international students on the standardized PISA test.

"Yes, this would be big news for China," Huang said, "if it were 1981."

High Test Rankings Mask China Education System's Underlying Problems - ABC News

American exceptionalism.
Well, better late than never.
Or worse, not anymore ie,aka, once upon a time, we were like the tops you know, nevermind today or tomorrow.

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[592257001]

LOL. did I hit a nerve? seems so. This is a classic example, you can't handle Chinese being called racists. It's always " Oh no, we just are impolite when we make racists comments". ROFL

But I still like your food especially eating it with those funny sticks -

Lol, eating with "funny stick" sounds much better than eating with bare hand, don't u think? Especially when some one's other hand is used for bathroom business
PS: "funny sticks" were invented thousands of years ago in the "funny land". When was the tradition of "eating with one hand, wiping **** with another" invented in your "divine land"?

I really don't meant to be racist, but talking to a hard core racist like u really arouse my urge to troll a bit

 

[dingyibvs]

There are several high qualitied hospital in Shanghai that's dedicated to foreigners. They pay about the same wage as hospitals in Canada does. So you don't have to risk your career by taking in bribes ( whereas most Chinese doctors take in bribes from patients because the hospital does not pay them high enough for the education they went through).

Very true, last year when I was visiting China I heard about some hospital in Shanghai hiring a radiologist for $300k/yr, you can live like a king(or queen) in China with that kind of pay!

 

[peaceful]

Very true, last year when I was visiting China I heard about some hospital in Shanghai hiring a radiologist for $300k/yr, you can live like a king(or queen) in China with that kind of pay!

that is not true.

$300k/yr is about 2 million RMB before tax, you get about 1million rmb after tax for that "fancy position". 1 million rmb/year incoming is of course not low but that only lead you to the middle class.

the fact is that kind of incoming won't even allow you to have a decent apartment in downtown shanghai.

 

[peaceful]

dear Chinese members:

we should stop wasting time arguing with those indians.

this is a pakistani defence forum, we are discussing on the Chinese defence forum. there is nothing to do with india/indians.

in the next 100 years, our generation and our kids would face competition with Americans, Europeans, Japanese, Koreans, Russians. But indians? I just sincerely hope they get enough toilets built for their fancy homeland first.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

I really don't meant to be racist, but talking to a hard core racist like u really arouse my urge to troll a bit

When confronted with trolls,flamers,rude,racist......we report such posts.

I hope you"ll do the same.

 

[below_freezing]

that is not true.

$300k/yr is about 2 million RMB before tax, you get about 1million rmb after tax for that "fancy position". 1 million rmb/year incoming is of course not low but that only lead you to the middle class.

the fact is that kind of incoming won't even allow you to have a decent apartment in downtown shanghai.

no one lives in downtown shanghai. who said you had to live in downtown. live further away and drive/bus/subway.

 

[592257001]

that is not true.

$300k/yr is about 2 million RMB before tax, you get about 1million rmb after tax for that "fancy position". 1 million rmb/year incoming is of course not low but that only lead you to the middle class.

the fact is that kind of incoming won't even allow you to have a decent apartment in downtown shanghai.

When I was still living in Shanghai six years ago, my parents' incomes were only 0.5 million rmb/yr in total after tax. They still managed to buy two 3-mil apartment around downtown Shanghai. Did the wage gone up by that much?

 

[GSK]

Very true, last year when I was visiting China I heard about some hospital in Shanghai hiring a radiologist for $300k/yr, you can live like a king(or queen) in China with that kind of pay!

No, man. You are wrong. With 1million RMB after tax per year in Shanghai, you won't live like a king or queen because you are still a "高级上班族"， although you don't need to concern expenses of daily life. These titles belong to the owners of those private enterprises in Shanghai. There are really a lot of them, and most of them are from zhejiang province.

Another important reason is that with that high salary, many of your contacts will be those bosses, which will make you feel you are really not a rich person instead of feeling like a king or queen.

 

[fallstuff]

You have some seriously strange views Speeder.

1) You advocate Stormfront, a White Nationalist website.
2) You think that Japanese people are "our kin" (wtf?).
3) You don't like Socialism/Communism, and you think the Jews run the world media.
4) You hate race-mixing.

I've never before met a Chinese person with all these beliefs, it's almost a carbon copy of White nationalism but applied to the Han instead. Maybe you've spent too long in the West.

Not sure anybody saw this episode:

 

[peaceful]

no one lives in downtown shanghai. who said you had to live in downtown. live further away and drive/bus/subway.

First of all, it depends on your definition of "downtown of Shanghai". For me, its areas like Huashan Rd. You are basically telling me no one lives there.

 

[peaceful]

When I was still living in Shanghai six years ago, my parents' incomes were only 0.5 million rmb/yr in total after tax. They still managed to buy two 3-mil apartment around downtown Shanghai. Did the wage gone up by that much?

6 years ago, you can easily buy yourself a decent apartment in Nanjing Rd West area for about 2 million rmb. Now the exact same apartment unit costs you more than 6-7 million rmb.

The average income significantly improved during the past half decades, the best example is probably the fact that more and more people on average income can now afford to buy their first car.