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Any news about upcoming new test before Pakistan Day?
Hope to see something about medium range air defence system soon.
 
North Korea has 12,000 km conversation missile arms race will also further stress that view
 
Well, our 4000 plus range missile can put many nations in mental disorder.
 
Well, our 4000 plus range missile can put many nations in mental disorder.
India and China will not like this.
Chinese put more long-range missiles pointed at the East Sea to the north east south west Asia
 
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Pakistan's new Shaheen-III MRBM uses Chinese transporter, says source
Richard D Fisher Jr, Washington DC - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
29 June 2016


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Pakistan's new Shaheen-III medium-range missile uses a Chinese 16x16 transporter erector launcher, according to an Indian source. Source: Via DailyPakistan.com


Pakistan's new Shaheen-III medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) is carried by a Chinese-made 16-wheel transporter erector launcher (TEL), an Indian government source told IHS Jane's on condition of anonymity.

The Indian source noted that Pakistan began negotiations in 2012 with the China Precision Machinery Import-Export Corporation (CPMIEC), which resulted in the export of "two 16x16 WS-21200s for use as TELs for Shaheen-III missiles".

Pakistan is believed to have taken delivery of the TELs at the end of February or in early March 2016. The source also said that Pakistan's National Engineering and Scientific Commission has set up an assembly line at the Punjab-based National Development Complex to assemble TELs for Pakistani missiles.

The WS-21200 - a previously unreported designation - is manufactured by the Hubei Sanjiang Space Wanshan Special Vehicle Co of the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC).

China provided WS-51200 TELs to North Korea in 2011, the Indian source stated. Six of these vehicles currently carry North Korea's KN-08 and KN-14 intercontinental ballistic missiles. "There is no doubt China is involved in the proliferation of missile technology," said the Indian official.

The Shaheen-III's WS-21200 TEL and the WS-51200 used by North Korea have much in common, including the same headlight and direction indicator patterns. One main difference, however, is that the WS-21200 uses a forward-tilting windshield glass structure not used by the WS-51200.

However, this glass structure is used by the 8-wheel TEL cab of Pakistan's Hatf 9 (also known as Nasr) 60 km-range tactical nuclear missile, which is virtually the same as the TEL cab of China's DF-11A short-range ballistic missile made by CASIC.

Revealed to the public for the first time during Pakistan's military parade on 23 March, the Shaheen-III - a surface-to-surface, land-based ballistic missile - is allegedly capable of carrying a nuclear or conventional warhead to a range of 2,750 km.
 
Dear PK friends, your BM development is quite remarkable. And the deterent value of your Full Spectrum Deterence is highly credible.

Great achievement.

But what are the developments of your BMD? Is there some R&D going on? Are you looking to China for collaborations?

Without a credible BMD would you not be exposed to eastern threat?

Any update/ feedback is welcome.

Thank you.
 
Dear PK friends, your BM development is quite remarkable. And the deterent value of your Full Spectrum Deterence is highly credible.

Great achievement.

But what are the developments of your BMD? Is there some R&D going on? Are you looking to China for collaborations?

Without a credible BMD would you not be exposed to eastern threat?

Any update/ feedback is welcome.

Thank you.
Unfortunately this is one of those fields where we really never focused. A huge negligence i would say. Considering that we are making the main stay/back bone of all other arms of military like the army's armored corps use home made Al Zarar and Al Khalid as main tanks, the navy uses home build F22p, the air force is rapidly inducting home gorwn JF17s, there is nothing to show in SAM and BMD. We have been saying this for years now that there is a serious need of real development work in Surface to air missile section, a strong land based air defense will go a long way in protecting our air space and also can be used on Naval platforms. Frankly, we never really considered buying such sophisticated systems let alone working on one at home. I think it is about time that we chose some good SAM systems in all different categories and start slow by maintenance and manufacturing in Pakistan. One filed we seriously lack in.
 
Unfortunately this is one of those fields where we really never focused. A huge negligence i would say. Considering that we are making the main stay/back bone of all other arms of military like the army's armored corps use home made Al Zarar and Al Khalid as main tanks, the navy uses home build F22p, the air force is rapidly inducting home gorwn JF17s, there is nothing to show in SAM and BMD. We have been saying this for years now that there is a serious need of real development work in Surface to air missile section, a strong land based air defense will go a long way in protecting our air space and also can be used on Naval platforms. Frankly, we never really considered buying such sophisticated systems let alone working on one at home. I think it is about time that we chose some good SAM systems in all different categories and start slow by maintenance and manufacturing in Pakistan. One filed we seriously lack in.

Dear Arsalan, thank you for your candid feedback.

This is then a strategic imperative to have robust ADS & BMDS.

You are right, no need to invent the wheel.

Radar making is the first step.

Home build radars will serve all of your three services.

You can only build upon it.

Perhaps a JV with China can accelerate this process.

Thanks again.
 
Dear Arsalan, thank you for your candid feedback.

This is then a strategic imperative to have robust ADS & BMDS.

You are right, no need to invent the wheel.

Radar making is the first step.

Home build radars will serve all of your three services.

You can only build upon it.

Perhaps a JV with China can accelerate this process.

Thanks again.
True and totally agreed with. In fact, China is not the only option and there are others available out there was well with whom we can and should seek out such JV. Start with radars, runs some missile systems parallel to that. Start small and gradually build on that. This is something that is seriously required now.
 

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