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Sex and sedition: What the JNU dossier tells us about the right-wing imagination

it should. personally, i was never a fan of left parties. after seeing what they did to bengal, its obvious. but you have to give credit to the bengal CPI(m). the way they wooed the farmers by their blockbuster land reforms (i think that was the best land reforms applied anywhere in india, thereby effectively ending the zamindari system), was simply awesome.
but sadly, they stopped after that and concentrated only on party politics.

You are point is perfect - till the last line....... They were the parties of poor and socialism....... But They did not know what to do once the poor has become middle class...... They stayed in their old ideologies and became irrelevant over decades..... Now they are on cross roads and do not know which way to go......
 
You are point is perfect - till the last line....... They were the parties of poor and socialism....... But They did not know what to do once the poor has become middle class...... They stayed in their old ideologies and became irrelevant over decades..... Now they are on cross roads and do not know which way to go......
thank you, i stand corrected.
indecision will kill them in the long term.but all the poor are not elevated yet. they are still a third of our population ....only if they were concentrated in a single place for the communists to show their relevance.
 
thank you, i stand corrected.
indecision will kill them in the long term.but all the poor are not elevated yet. they are still a third of our population ....only if they were concentrated in a single place for the communists to show their relevance.

They concentrated on Kerala and Bengal for more than 4 decades and they could not find ground in other states... Probably they could have found their base in BIMARU states where they would have been more relevant with social issues present in those states.... But now it is too late for them and they can not do anything..... they have become an irrelevant political party in India, let us not forget they were offered PM post not long ago.....
 
JNU has became an ugly ugly place of Indian politics. Never before a political school has been targeted this much by all the ideologies existing in the Indian politics.
 
98 % ?? 95% ?? where did you get these figures /?
From the constable to d.i.g now a days poses a pg or ug thus making them approachable for any one even cases are filed for looking at girls thus increasing percentage of case filed
 
From the constable to d.i.g now a days poses a pg or ug thus making them approachable for any one even cases are filed for looking at girls thus increasing percentage of case filed
lol nice one
 
You are point is perfect - till the last line....... They were the parties of poor and socialism....... But They did not know what to do once the poor has become middle class...... They stayed in their old ideologies and became irrelevant over decades..... Now they are on cross roads and do not know which way to go......

incorrect.

the middle classes are still the poor class... how many middle class residents can : (a) comfortably lend five lakh rupees to someone, (b) and then not worry about its return??

the middle class are only able to buy slightly more costly frivolous items like iphone and wedding jewellery than the poor, and even for the jewellery remember the tanishq ads running presently ( one has amitabh bachchan ) that are priced lower so that the middle classes can buy them.

plus the middle class have more attractiveness to the private banks than the poor people.

how many middle class youngsters or younger ones can opt out of doing wage-slavery that had been given to them as inheritance by their parents??

why do you think 'kingfisher airlines' went bankrupt??

so, socialism is for all... it makes life easier for all.
 
The kind of shitt kanhaiya had started for India to divide it in 4 parts. India is India out side of India, Inside India its north south east west parts which talks their own language all the time. We are not doing well in making co-ordination between every part, religions and casts of our country. Our freedom fighters was so legite peoples, they never had though the relaxation in lows will lead India to this direction.
 
incorrect.

the middle classes are still the poor class... how many middle class residents can : (a) comfortably lend five lakh rupees to someone, (b) and then not worry about its return??

the middle class are only able to buy slightly more costly frivolous items like iphone and wedding jewellery than the poor, and even for the jewellery remember the tanishq ads running presently ( one has amitabh bachchan ) that are priced lower so that the middle classes can buy them.

plus the middle class have more attractiveness to the private banks than the poor people.

how many middle class youngsters or younger ones can opt out of doing wage-slavery that had been given to them as inheritance by their parents??

why do you think 'kingfisher airlines' went bankrupt??

so, socialism is for all... it makes life easier for all.

I was expecting this :)
 
hindu right (or for any right for that matter) should lose ground for sanity to prevail. religion should not have any place in state affairs. anything to the contrary has created death and destruction throughout the globe. having said that, i do agree there are many examples genocides perpetrated by the ultra leftists too. but comparing the two vices, right-wing thought (again, no specific religion) has claimed more lives than left-wing thought.

Now you are dishonestly comparing Islamic fanaticism with hindu right. Nothing can be more Dishonest. Islamic fanatics has attacked the world in the last 1200 years killing and destroying civilizations, killing men, women and children, raping women and taking slaves. But you do not even have the intellectual integrity to take it by NAME. Shame on you.

I am not interested in your view of denial of religious right to make a uptopian society. Such foolish and idiotic idea has been tried earlier and each time it has failed miserably. Only idiots and frauds never learn from it.

If you are going to take the death and destructions by Islamic invasion and Communism at least have the Integrity to take them by NAME. But you are too much of a coward to even do that. Instead like every coward you choose a soft target like Hindusim and try and pint the sins of Islamic fanatics on Hinduism. disgusting.

British created caste ?? then what did Lord Manu do ? time travelled to 1857, stole the idea of casteism from the brits and went back to his time ( with time machine of course) to write manusmrti. refresh your history and you will get to know that the "rigidity" in caste system started from the Gupta age. the birth of the caste system was way earlier.
regarding moral degradation, a staunch hindu casteist brahmin (again exceptions are there) would find "equality and fraternity for all" as moral degradation from the rigid caste system. so you see, "moral degradation" is subjective to one's pre conceived notions.

Manu created VARNA your Ignoramus. The British created CASTE.

Not only your now reek of brainwashing, you also stink of ignorance.

A Staunch Sudra with a lineage would find it degrading to being compared to a brahmin too. That is called JATI.

JATIi comes from Birth, Varana comes from CHOICE of profession. Most times the circumstances of birth determines your profession, but not every-time. Varna created for all Jatis to get educated and chose their Varna.

The root world of JATI is JA which means Birth (Janam). The Root word for VARNA is VA which meant choice (Var).

If you were not such an ignorant noob you would have known that the Gupta Empire expanded because they integrated the various Tribal's into the VARNA system. Not the "CASTE" which the british formed centuries later. But since ignorance is your friend and Propaganda your middle name, I do not expect any integrity from you to recognize this Fact.

Congratulations. you reek of Himmler.

Coming from an Anti Hindu communist supporter like You, I welcome this charge as an highest of Honour. Next you can call me Modi.

Iam not a member of leftist parties, hence i wont be able to confirm your allegations. but these seems frighteningly similar to the ones which are hurled on one corrupt neta from another during elections. no connection with reality.

why single out communists only, rape is a weapon of choice of any/all corrupt armed body (be it local gundas to state merceneries to national armies). have you asked the perpetrators of nirbhaya whether they were communists, or the gundas from UP , who raped and then hanged the cousin sisters from the branches of a tree. did you ask the ISIS terrorists who "use and throw" captured girls, whether they were communists ??
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You might not be a Card carrying member, but your ideological bent is fairly obvious, so is your ignorance which you now attempt to cover by misdirection.

If you were not so dense you would have realized that this discussion started due to your foolish attempt in trying to white wash a card carrying communist who advocate armed struggle and rejection of Democracy. But you want to deflect this now to Nirbhaya and ISIS. Disgusting.

The greatest Mass Rape in recorded history is by Communist after they won WW2. A total of 2 million Rapes. But bigots like you want to shut your eyes to history and pretend that its all "hindu right wing conspiracy" and call others Hitler to cover up your own prejudices. Maybe you can compare that to the Millions of Rape carried out in Bangladesh by Islamic pakistani army.

98 % ?? 95% ?? where did you get these figures /? maybe @nair and @Nair saab can help confirm.

Hindu right has maimed and broken millions ( i know you love this word) during the course of history , just like the islamists and the christians. only difference being, the latter two were crude enough to use swords and guns, the former was wise enough to use scriptures, social and economic ostracization.

Ahhhh.....you end your gibberish with this ?? well , if a person can blame the caste sytem on british, then he is capable of writing a book on intellectual integrity too, so that the less fortunate like myself can benefit from it.

These are official figures put out by the Kerala government you ignoramus. Statistics might be gibberish to you but it does not go away just because you are dense. Learn to use google to find it out.

Your pathetic "allegations" against Hindu right is just that, the dung thrown by a monkey for lack of appropriate response. I DARE you to prove it.

Social ostracization in JATI's was the ONLY effective way to prevent the entire nation turning Islamic. THAT is why India is still HINDU MAJORITY.

While Egypt, Iran or Iraq or Turkey is NOT. The Ostracization was the last desperate measure of the Hindu religion to protect itself against the barbaric Islamic invasion and later Christian invasion. The society has NOTHING to be ashamed about. The social and economic ostracization of the ENTIRE Hindu society under the Islamic and christian rule is not your problem, the micro fraction is your concern. What a massive hypocrite.

You can self flagellate for all you want, the hindu right will just sneer at your ignorance and arrogance.

The end to your misfortune can only come from knowledge and courage. But the path you are on offers no salvation, only an further orgy of ignorance and mud slinging and foul allegation.
 
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since this is a story by an insider, and not in sync with the "nationalist" view, it will be dismissed as biased, BS, "anti-national", immoral, just a misguided opinion and lastly, the very character of the author will be put up in question.
meanwhile, rapists and murderers roam free.
Sorry. We know who Kavita Krishnan is. Thanks. :tup:

Sexual harassment cases must stop in the Kremlin on the Yamuna. This is disgusting for an educational institution.
 
Now you are dishonestly comparing Islamic fanaticism with hindu right. Nothing can be more Dishonest. Islamic fanatics has attacked the world in the last 1200 years killing and destroying civilizations, killing men, women and children, raping women and taking slaves. But you do not even have the intellectual integrity to take it by NAME. Shame on you.

I am not interested in your view of denial of religious right to make a uptopian society. Such foolish and idiotic idea has been tried earlier and each time it has failed miserably. Only idiots and frauds never learn from it.

If you are going to take the death and destructions by Islamic invasion and Communism at least have the Integrity to take them by NAME. But you are too much of a coward to even do that. Instead like every coward you choose a soft target like Hindusim and try and pint the sins of Islamic fanatics on Hinduism. disgusting.



Manu created VARNA your Ignoramus. The British created CASTE.

Not only your now reek of brainwashing, you also stink of ignorance.

A Staunch Sudra with a lineage would find it degrading to being compared to a brahmin too. That is called JATI.

JATIi comes from Birth, Varana comes from CHOICE of profession. Most times the circumstances of birth determines your profession, but not every-time. Varna created for all Jatis to get educated and chose their Varna.

The root world of JATI is JA which means Birth (Janam). The Root word for VARNA is VA which meant choice (Var).

If you were not such an ignorant noob you would have known that the Gupta Empire expanded because they integrated the various Tribal's into the VARNA system. Not the "CASTE" which the british formed centuries later. But since ignorance is your friend and Propaganda your middle name, I do not expect any integrity from you to recognize this Fact.



Coming from an Anti Hindu communist supporter like You, I welcome this charge as an highest of Honour. Next you can call me Modi.


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You might not be a Card carrying member, but your ideological bent is fairly obvious, so is your ignorance which you now attempt to cover by misdirection.

If you were not so dense you would have realized that this discussion started due to your foolish attempt in trying to white wash a card carrying communist who advocate armed struggle and rejection of Democracy. But you want to deflect this now to Nirbhaya and ISIS. Disgusting.

The greatest Mass Rape in recorded history is by Communist after they won WW2. A total of 2 million Rapes. But bigots like you want to shut your eyes to history and pretend that its all "hindu right wing conspiracy" and call others Hitler to cover up your own prejudices. Maybe you can compare that to the Millions of Rape carried out in Bangladesh by Islamic pakistani army.



These are official figures put out by the Kerala government you ignoramus. Statistics might be gibberish to you but it does not go away just because you are dense. Learn to use google to find it out.

Your pathetic "allegations" against Hindu right is just that, the dung thrown by a monkey for lack of appropriate response. I DARE you to prove it.

Social ostracization in JATI's was the ONLY effective way to prevent the entire nation turning Islamic. THAT is why India is still HINDU MAJORITY.

While Egypt, Iran or Iraq or Turkey is NOT. The Ostracization was the last desperate measure of the Hindu religion to protect itself against the barbaric Islamic invasion and later Christian invasion. The society has NOTHING to be ashamed about. The social and economic ostracization of the ENTIRE Hindu society under the Islamic and christian rule is not your problem, the micro fraction is your concern. What a massive hypocrite.

You can self flagellate for all you want, the hindu right will just sneer at your ignorance and arrogance.

The end to your misfortune can only come from knowledge and courage. But the path you are on offers no salvation, only an further orgy of ignorance and mud slinging and foul allegation.
Whatever makes you sleep at night.
 
so, socialism is for all... it makes life easier for all.
You and I have disagreed on the philosophy. You are a staunch socialist and I am a proud right wing capitalist. But one of the reasons for joining such forums is to hear other's views and expand your knowledge and world view.

So I want you to explain to me how exactly will socialism help me or will be beneficial to me considering the facts
(a) I dont need free electricity/Water etc
(b) I do not depend on govt and do not want rice/wheat at Rs 2/Kg
(c) I have a job ("Wage Slavery"" according to you) and I consider myself as a productive member of the society by providing services needed by the people. I also contribute to the growth and development of the country by paying my taxes - The same taxes which are used to provide the Rs. 2/KG rice and wheat to the poor. And before you think that I am an "IT Coolie" I would like to tell you that I am in the logistics industry. My company helps thousands of entrepreneurs to expand their market base and reach out to customers across the country from metros like Delhi /Mumbai to remotest corners of North East India
(d) the banks are falling over each other to offer me credit cards and personal loans. If required I can avail these facilities. and I am able to pay the interest on these loans and do not expect them to be interest free. The interest I pay to the bank is the profit of the bank and this profit is what helps the bank to pay the salary to Raju the guard at the ATM The salary will help Raju's daughter Shilpa to complete her studies. i am proud of the fact that I m making a small contribution in Shilpa's studies by paying interest to the bank and taxes to the govt (from my salary) which enables the govt to open schools for her

Considering all these facts tell me how will socialism help me?
 
You and I have disagreed on the philosophy. You are a staunch socialist and I am a proud right wing capitalist. But one of the reasons for joining such forums is to hear other's views and expand your knowledge and world view.

So I want you to explain to me how exactly will socialism help me or will be beneficial to me considering the facts
(a) I dont need free electricity/Water etc
(b) I do not depend on govt and do not want rice/wheat at Rs 2/Kg
(c) I have a job ("Wage Slavery"" according to you) and I consider myself as a productive member of the society by providing services needed by the people. I also contribute to the growth and development of the country by paying my taxes - The same taxes which are used to provide the Rs. 2/KG rice and wheat to the poor. And before you think that I am an "IT Coolie" I would like to tell you that I am in the logistics industry. My company helps thousands of entrepreneurs to expand their market base and reach out to customers across the country from metros like Delhi /Mumbai to remotest corners of North East India
(d) the banks are falling over each other to offer me credit cards and personal loans. If required I can avail these facilities. and I am able to pay the interest on these loans and do not expect them to be interest free. The interest I pay to the bank is the profit of the bank and this profit is what helps the bank to pay the salary to Raju the guard at the ATM The salary will help Raju's daughter Shilpa to complete her studies. i am proud of the fact that I m making a small contribution in Shilpa's studies by paying interest to the bank and taxes to the govt (from my salary) which enables the govt to open schools for her

Considering all these facts tell me how will socialism help me?

will reply later, i am now going to watch tv.
 

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