Sever ties with India, Pakistan tells Afghanistan

[StormShadow]

Western hopes of leaving Afghanistan within reach of a peace deal when Nato troops pull out in 2014 are dimming, with planned negotiations in Qatar at a stalemate and Pakistan demanding that Afghanistan, for example, sever all ties with India in return for supporting the talks.


Afghans and foreigners across the political spectrum have been pushing hard for negotiations for several years, driven by concerns that the already-bloody insurgency could spiral into full-blown civil war when foreign forces have left.

A key reason for the failure is the ambivalence of the Pakistani government, which in recent weeks appears to have backed away from support for the process.

The Afghan government says the demands are that ties with India be severed, that army officers be sent to Pakistan for training and that a strategic partnership deal be signed immediately.

“Unfortunately Pakistan today is changing the goalposts on its support for the peace process once again,” said the Afghan foreign ministry spokesman, Janan Mosazai.

“Pakistan somehow decided now to put down certain preconditions for its support for the peace process which are completely unacceptable to Afghanistan and to any other independent country.”

The deterioration in ties has already had an impact: one senior Afghan source said flights organised by Pakistan for militants to Doha had already been halted. Without transport for negotiators, talks are unlikely to get very far.

The Taliban themselves have remained elusive, attacking top government negotiators and refusing to publicly embrace talks.

The Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, visited the Qatari capital, Doha, at the weekend, where a handful of Taliban have set up base since 2011.

Sever ties with India, Pakistan tells Afghanistan - Hindustan Times

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Afghanistan should send its army officers to Pakistan ? Not even asking the permission of Afghans !!!.

 

[Silverblaze]

I do not think that severing ties with India would be a proposal by Pakistan.

If closing down consulates in some areas is equated to severing of ties, then may God with be the Afghan foreign ministry.

 

[BATMAN]

I seriously, doubt that zardari may have said any thing like this. Sounds more like a usual lie of hindustan times for brain washed hindu audience.

Zardari actually is supplying free fuel to indian army in Afghanistan and pushing indian containers in and around Pakistan.

Why would he suddenly take u turn.

 

[ExtraOdinary]

Still treating afghanistan as their own backyard, this will only alienate the afghans more

 

[iajj]

the biggest stakeholder in afghanistan is neither afghans nor yindoos. the greatest stake is the safety and security of pakistanis - and yindoos know this. yindoos also know that correspondingly pakistan can more effectively and more economically intervene in afghanistan and yindoos cannot compete with this insuperable pakistani advantage, so yindoos are only in afghanistan to create mischief, to be annoying, to no advantage of either themselves or afghans or pakistanis, but i guess that is what yindoos are really playing at.

 

[W.11]

I will say it in UP Style ..

my dear hamid kerzai on record has said india supports terrorism in pakistan from afghanistan, uses afghans, we pakistanis dont hve anything against afghans developing their country by forging strong relations, but truth is afghanistan the backyard of pakistan is being used for notorious activites

BTW if pakistan government was little mature itself it would forge better relations with afghnistan and tried to treat them as equal friends instead of masters, in this way afghans would have liked pakistan more then indians and indians wouldnt hve got any change to use afghans

paksitanwa ki lolwa hoi gawa.

@Ayush trolling thats new

 

[Cherokee]

my dear hamid kerzai on record has said india supports terrorism in pakistan from afghanistan, uses afghans, we pakistanis dont hve anything against afghans developing their country by forging strong relations, but truth is afghanistan the backyard of pakistan is being used for notorious activites

BTW if pakistan government was little mature itself it would forge better relations with afghnistan and tried to treat them as equal friends instead of masters, in this way afghans would have liked pakistan more then indians and indians wouldnt hve got any change to use afghans


@Ayush trolling thats new

Where did Hamid Karzai on record said that India supports Terrorism in Pakistab from Afghanistan .Tell me .

 

[joekrish]

@W.11 - "hamid kerzai on record has said india supports terrorism in pakistan" do you have any links to the statement?

 

[Ayush]

@Ayush trolling thats new

yaar,hum bhi insaan hain..

 

[joekrish]

yaar,hum bhi insaan hain..

Kabhi, kabhi kuch loge insaan ko be janvar bana dhey gay. (pardon my Hindi and hinglish spellings)

 

[iajj]

my dear hamid kerzai on record has said india supports terrorism in pakistan from afghanistan, uses afghans, we pakistanis dont hve anything against afghans developing their country by forging strong relations, but truth is afghanistan the backyard of pakistan is being used for notorious activites

BTW if pakistan government was little mature itself it would forge better relations with afghnistan and tried to treat them as equal friends instead of masters, in this way afghans would have liked pakistan more then indians and indians wouldnt hve got any change to use afghans


@Ayush trolling thats new

pakistan can be friends with mexico: does that mean angloamericans can be friends with mexico? of course not. pakistan can treat mexico with equality and fairness because the two countries are far apart and pakistan wants very little from mexico, but angloamericans' strategic calculation with their neighbor right to the south is completely different and they wanted many, many more things from mexico. so it makes sense that angloamericans wanted to dominate that relationship and tries to bully, cajole, blackmail mexico in order to get what they want to get whereas pakistan can always be friendly and equal to mexico.

same thing with afghanitan: yindoos want very little from afghtanistan and yindoos know that. pakistan, by contrast, has too many needs in afghanistan and cannot simply set that relationship on autopilot: pakistan is far more motivated to control that relationship, and it is compelled by its own national security to do so.

so it is always easier for yindoos to make these (meaningless) goodwill gestures to afghanistan that pakistan simply cannot make. and pakistanis need not take this as a bad thing: if pakistanis must take actions in afghanistan that ruffles some weathers, pakistanis just need to understand these actions are taken with good cause conducive to pakistan's national interests. what is truly important is not to match yindoos' meaningless gestures in afghanistan but to really understand your own unique relationship to afghanistan and what you really want to get out of the relationship. your relationship with afghanistan is bound to be far more complicated than yindoo-afghan relationship, but the best strategic mind doesn't necessarily make most friends: it just knows what it truly wants, pays the price it deems truly reasonable to pay, and obtains what it sets out to obtain. he knows no pity, no regrets, nor sorrow. pakistan cannot afford to compete with yindoos in being "friendly" to afghanistan, and a pakistani should feel no pang about it

 

[Ayush]

^^ .

 

[Secur]

Any International sources reporting that news ?

 

[Caucasian Albania]

What??????????????? I doubt this is real news.