Security forces break backbone of stone pelters in Kashmir, more than 8000 arrested

[ali_raza]

these kind of indian oppresion will only fuel more hatred in kashmiris hearts for them.and then one ask why there is kashmir conflict in first place.give people what they owe

 

[Kaniska]

I am apalled by the hate some Kashmiris have for us simply because of religion. It reflects a very sick and radicalised mindset. We have to keep such hateful ideologies in check, even if it means using military force

Exactly, if around 20% of our Muslim brothers can live with us peacefully, why they are so special that they have to be always treated separately???? I mean they have so much of hatred towards Hindus, that you will realise if you ever go to Srinagar or Valley area...Agian this is limited to area sorrounded in Valley and nearby areas only.

 

[Windjammer]

At least some of them wouldn't need to throw stones now.


Suspected militants snatch rifles from cops in Kashmir

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/574834/suspected-militants-snatch-rifles-cops.html

 

[Spring Onion]

One month on, Kashmir remains caught between curfew and shutdown

• Abhishek Saha, Hindustan Times, Srinagar
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• Updated: Aug 07, 2016 20:09 IST

A paramilitary soldier speaks to locals walking around during curfew hours in downtown Srinagar, on August. 1, 2016. Close to 60 people have died in the violence that erupted after the killing of Burhan Wani, a popular Hizbul Mujahideen commnader, on July 8, 2016. (Waseem Andrabi /HT Photo)

• Read | Curfew, separatist shutdown cripple Kashmir for 30th day
  
  Between the two, and at least 56 deaths later, normal life in Srinagar and elsewhere in the Valley has been in disarray. Srinagar has turned into a garrison town with frequent clashes between stone throwing protesters and security forces.
  
  If found out on the streets, anyone can be pulled up Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) or police personnel for violating curfew.
  
  “The government crackdown on civilians occurred right after Burhan Wani’s death. Since then, people have not been able to even get out and meet community members and discuss the ongoing crisis. Many people wanting to go to hospitals to help the injured weren’t allowed to move. Moreover, people could not communicate with each other because of the clampdown on phone services,” said Irfan Mehraj, a social activist who lives in the sensitive old city area of Srinagar.
  
  A journalist from the old city area said, “I fear two things as I come out for work. First, confrontation with a jawan and second, getting caught in a clash between stone pelters and the forces.”
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Paramilitary soldiers stand guard during curfew in Srinagar, on August 5, 2016. Locals say people are more willing to adhere to the separatists call for shutdown than government-imposed curfew. (Waseem Andrabi /HT Photo)
  For the ordinary Kashmiri without a broadband connection, television is the only source of entertainment and breaking news. In some areas of Srinagar, people come out after sundown in their alleys and meet. Others gather outside mosques after the evening prayers and discuss the ongoing turmoil.
  
  Grocery stores, vegetable shops and petrol pumps usually remain shuttered throughout the day, only to open clandestinely at unearthly hours – late nights or early mornings. In some areas where shopkeepers dared to open during the day, they had to face the wrath of ‘motorcycle gangs’ – youth who came on bikes and forced them to shut down.
  
  Read | Kashmir’s disturbing new reality
  
  The salaried class have not been hit that hard by the current unrest, but the economy has been badly affected with losses for businesses, shops and the tourism sector estimated to be huge.
  
  Mushtaq Ahmad Wani, president of the Kashmir chamber of commerce and industry said that for most businessmen shutting down shop this time is a way of protest against the killings of civilians and the use of pellet guns by security forces. According to Wani, businessmen have downed their shutters regardless of losses.
  
  
  But despite the shutdown, families that Hindustan Times spoke to said that the supplies of essentials were not affected because the small grocery stores in the narrow alleys opened regularly and also because Kashmiris have a habit of stocking up basic food items keeping in mind the frequent lockdowns and inclement weather. They added that people in the villages have a steady supply of rice and vegetables.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  A Kashmiri man walks past closed shops painted with graffiti during a curfew in central Srinagar on July 11, 2016. Forced indoors by the curfew and shutdown, graffiti has increasingly been used by protesters to register their ire against the situation. (AP Photo)
  
  
  
  
  Petrol was sold in the black market in the initial days of the shutdown, but gradually some fuel station owners began opening their stations after midnight or whenever the separatists called for ‘relaxation’.
  
  Journalists move around on government-issued ‘curfew passes’.
  
  Srinagar’s streets have mostly been deserted. Walls have become a canvass for anti-India graffiti. And without tourists, the Dal Lake has been quiet with the shikaras moored at the jetties.
  
  The curfew and shutdowns have taken a toll on weddings with hundreds of them cancelled. Families with relatives in south Kashmir where communication remained completely snapped for 18 days from July 8, spent sleepless nights worrying about their kin.
  
  Senior journalist Sheikh Mushtaq points out, is that “curfew is bitterer” than the separatists’ “call for shutdown” because state is “quite violent” while many follow the separatist-issued shutdown willingly.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Paramilitary soldiers check the identity card of a local man on August 2, 2016. Walking around Srinagar has become near impossible with security forces and youths on motorbikes constantly checking on people found outdoors and shops operating their businesses. (Waseem Andrabi / HT Photo)
  
  
  “But even when the Hurriyat announces relaxation in shutdown and people try to follow that, the police does not allow that at many places because that will be seen as civil disobedience,” Mushtaq adds.
  
  In Srinagar’s neighbouring towns and villages where intense anti-govt protests have become a daily staple, residents say that they have started forming communities to take care of the essentials like food or medicines that the area requires.
  
  “In many parts of south Kashmir, it appears that the areas are controlled by youths and residents. Protests and clashes with security forces are frequent. Everything is shut and people are angry,” said a student from Kulgam town.
  http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...nd-shutdown/story-pmlrvXvb1M5ucYarGukaKN.html

 

[Indika]

how we know all 8000 are stone pelters

video recordings are taken during stone pelting based on which identification is done. Most of them wear masks but some idiots dont which makes it easier to identify.

 

[Indrajit]

There is no meeting ground between Pakistani & Indian positions on Kashmir. Nor does it look like there will be. End of story.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

The problem is the Geographical Contiguity with Pakistan
Since Pakistan is just next door ; they are obsessed with Pakistan

The problem isn't geographical contiguity, but one that can be principle.

Hyderabad and Junagadh were not conflicted by Pakistan, but ego got in the way of Kashmir.

 

[R0H1T]

There is no meeting ground between Pakistani & Indian positions on Kashmir. Nor does it look like there will be. End of story.

Well I wouldn't say that is true but for that politicians on both sides must be honest & I'm afraid that is not the case atm & I do not foresee the polity, either side of the border, changing in our lifetime.

 

[Indrajit]

The problem isn't geographical contiguity, but one that can be principle.

Hyderabad and Junagadh were not conflicted by Pakistan, but ego got in the way of Kashmir.

Nothing you could have done either in Junagadh or Hyderabad, though your great leaders even spurned an offer to swap Hyderabad for Kashmir. In the end, they got neither.

 

[coffee_cup]

Shame on you.
You have killed 120 people in Kashmir and every time talk about Uri Uri Uri?
If you are convicted to absorb every type of damage for keeping your already broken ''atoot aung'' then price will be big.
Pakistan have bled a lot. We no longer feel pain or weakness when we bleed. India does, a lot! We have seen in case of 18 casualties which India found too hard to digest. Imagine what will happen when 18 will change to 180 then 1800 and so on? Ultimately bringing war in region casting lives of 18000000?

That is why, India MUST compromise on Kashmir and stop being evil. Other wise, its India turn to pay the price.

Bro you are arguing with a Modi fanboy who still believes in "SirGKal" strike by some "invisible Hanuman army".

No matter what logic you are trying to bring to such fanboys all they will see are imaginary 56 inches chests all around.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Nothing you could have done either in Junagadh or Hyderabad, though your great leaders even spurned an offer to swap Hyderabad for Kashmir. In the end, they got neither.

Hundreds of Thousands of para and military forces need to hold is a strain on resources.

The active conflict itself is a strain on development for the countries in S. Asia.

When anyone raises a finger on N. Sharif he responds with "hey look Kashmir!"

And the same with Indian politicians.

The sooner this conflict is resolved the sooner the citizens in S. Asia can look at the domestic problems which are the causes to their poverty.

 

[Windjammer]

Same to you ; our population is much larger AS is our economy

We can fight this war for ever

Since you keep repeating same mantra all the time.... here's an old saying, remember it well.

 

[Khan_21]

Your so-called "unmarked graves" contained bodies of terrorists and members of radical Islamic outfits based in Azad Kashmir who had relatives in J&K. They were causing disturbances and instigating violence in the valley and had to be quickly neutralised by our forces.

Yes there were few incidents of violence against Kashmiri men and women in retaliation to the Pandit exodus and killing of Indian soldiers during the 90s. But those incidents were few and far between, and nothing compared to the genocide Pakistan perpetrated against your own Bengali brothers and sisters. Killing innocent people, raping thousands of women just to consolidate power..shameful to say the least. In wanting to wrest Kashmir, you guys lost East Pakistan, whose people truly loved your country. Sad



Those so-called Kashmiri feedom fighters fighting against our state are motivated by "Islamiyat" not "Kashmiriyat". They believe in a hateful exclusivist Islamic ideology which calls for extermination of "kaffirs" and establishment of Shariat in those lands. A very sick mindset not acceptable in modern society. The same mindsets terrorists have. We will use force against these pests as and when needed

Yes everyone is lying . Al Jazeera is lying , BBC , CNN , Amnesty internal , Pakistan everyone is lying and India is the one on rightful path . No wonder thousands of people attended Burhan wani's funeral .

 

[Indrajit]

Hundreds of Thousands of para and military forces need to hold is a strain on resources.

The active conflict itself is a strain on development for the countries in S. Asia.

When anyone raises a finger on N. Sharif he responds with "hey look Kashmir!"

And the same with Indian politicians.

The sooner this conflict is resolved the sooner the citizens in S. Asia can look at the domestic problems which are the causes to their poverty.

Your idea of what the resolution would look like is very different from our own. Those hundreds of thousands of para military forces already exist & will exist even if the problem of Kashmir is resolved.

Maybe if Pakistan decided to be realistic & work with India to improve lives of the people on both sides of Kashmir without trying to change borders, we might have a chance. Not otherwise.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Ah the "Root Cause" theory.

What comes next ? The "good Terrorist" theory ?

And after that they will try to Sell us the following ideas

1 If India RESOLVES kashmir ; we will become Best friends

2 India can never become a Big power UNLESS it resolves Kashmir