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Secret peace talks between US and Taliban collapse over leaks...

Assuming, there is peace made , what guarantee is there that things will not go back the way they were in 90s?
Taliban will actually not cause trouble for Pakistan or CARs?

Do you really think Taliban's would have been any trouble for the countries surrounding it ?? They had no air force, no economy, no missiles, no tanks, just plain foot soldiers in few thousand strength with no aerial or heavy weapons support or the money to cause trouble.

This is just a myth that they can cause trouble for its neighbors, they could not control 100% of Afghanistan in their prime time and you think a few thousand soldiers with AKs & RPGs would have created problems for others.

Even then, the countries surrounding it could have chalked out a strategy to control them.

Its a land locked country. Do remember that.
 
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Problem is Taliban will never ever let US have any presence in their country.

So, i was already skeptical of the negotiations, but then again there may always be a hope.

Who knows the US may have realized that no matter what they do or give away in peace talks, Taliban will never welcome them in their country, which has been their stance from day one.

Exactly, the peace talks between them is futile. If it is working, then we wouldn't still be seeing them blowing up one another.
That's why I said the sooner the Americans leave the better. This will allow for a natural transition of power and for peace to work its way back into the country. It may take time to happen, but with the Americans sticking their noses in, it will take forever and at the cost of Afghanistan' neighbours.
 
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The problem with americans is they have no idea of compromise.
 
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Sometimes I feel Talibans are sheap herders who can't write their names other times I feel they are these creatures of advance super human telekinetic powers.....who can detect the plan just by thinking about it
 
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US / NATO can't defeat the Taliban through military means, stick and carrot are the best way to bring end to this conflict and stop more innocents getting killed.
US generals will disagree with you and so would former President Bush.

Under tenure of Bush, Taliban regime was destroyed and its remnants were on the run.

However, situation changed dramatically when Obama came to power. Obama is not a military man and neither he has experience of military tactics. He favored talks over military operations and Taliban got breathing space to regain its strength.

Obama mainly focused on defeating Al-Qaeda network.

But now that the talks have failed, we shall see what strategy is formulated for Afghanistan in coming months.
 
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Americans are back-stabbers, they won't stop playing games, even on their death-beds, they got a way too huge ego problem, that only keeps getting bigger. And couple that with the addiction to hunt peasants...
 
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They do peace talks and ask us to attack them, hypocrites.
It's Pakistan's sovereign obligation under international law to root out terrorists and terror havens from its own territory. And as the people of Swat testify, Pakistani citizens like it as well.

What does keeping terrorists around do for Pakistan, anyway? "Strategic depth?" Get rid of them, don't discriminate about it, and compel the military to accept a lower profile and social and political importance of themselves - for the only enemies Pakistan has right now are the ones the P.A. has nurtured itself for its own reasons.
 
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real faces of usa are like this.on talk peace another talk to us war .

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It's Pakistan's sovereign obligation under international law to root out terrorists and terror havens from its own territory. And as the people of Swat testify, Pakistani citizens like it as well.

What does keeping terrorists around do for Pakistan, anyway? "Strategic depth?" Get rid of them, don't discriminate about it, and compel the military to accept a lower profile and social and political importance of themselves - for the only enemies Pakistan has right now are the ones the P.A. has nurtured itself for its own reasons.

I do fully agree with what you said in the first para, but then again, US?NATO should be themselves committed too before asking us. Did you see the US commitment in Iraq when they send 3-4 times over the strength of troops as compared to what they have/had deployed in Afghanistan in the peek time frame. Why not you ask your govt that how come they send 400-500+K troops in Iraq when it has nothing to do with terrorism nor the Iraqis killed Americans in the US on 9/11 or even had any link with them, while on the other hand you send just 100K troops in the very country from where the so called terrorist plot originated of 9/11, where the terrorism was growing and getting trained ?? Isn't that hypocrisy from your side, you send 500K troops to occupy a country which was no threat to the US, but then you send just 100K troops to a country which housed the very terrorists that were attacking the US.

And what strategic depth are we gonna had gotten out of a country which was at war with itself for decades, whose economy was shattered, which had no infrastructure to support us in case of war, no proper airfields, no communication system, no industrial base which could not provide anything except for small caliber bullets that also of very low quality. What strategic depth are you guys talking about ?? Why not you guys think before use the word of strategic depth ?? What was or is in Afghanistan which can be used for strategic depth ?? Do ponder about that before next time using this word.

Do you forget what the US tried to do with Cuba, since the US perceived it as a threat very close by, so the US tried everything to change the leadership in Cuba. So, now tell me what is wrong with us if we are thinking for our future by thinking that a hostile Afghanistan govt is gonna be trouble for us, especially since we are facing another enemy in the shape of India. Would you like be sandwiched by 2 hostile neighbors from 2 sides ?? Don't think so. That is what exactly we are thinking. We have India on one side, and then if an Afghan govt hostile to Pakistan with the active support from our enemies that would be the US & India comes on our other side, what are we gonna do ?? So, better to not let that Afghan hostile govt come up. Do, check out the recent comments by the Afghan Armed forces chief where he said he does not recognizes the Pak-Afghan border, may be it will give you an idea how much hostility we have from the current Afghan govt.

And as for the rest of things about PA, i think things are going fine as of now and as time goes by, we will change so will the PA.
 
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