Secret Behind India-USA Honey Moon

[BSF]

24.06.05

yawn!!!!!

 

[r3alist]

Sir india not a country that can't be bullied. India is 1.1 billion population country that is nearly 4 times in population then america. India is emerging power and america can't treat india the way it treated pakistan sir. America worried of china and they need indian support to counter china. India is the one benefiting with this friendship as we are getting latest technology that not even america's allys getting. Example hawekey 2D, P-8i etc etc. Uk, autralia, israel not the one getting it but india getting it. This shows how much close india and america got to each other and it will keep getting close to each other in coming years sir.

yes, i think if you read back you will realise i was only expressing a note of caution and i agree with you on the whole.

however, i think it would be folly to not think the us have the potential to dump/hurt india - they do.

there **may** come a time when push comes to shove and india need to show their hand, for example are india with the SCO, or NATO?


remember india are living in a very very tough neighbourhood with plentyof bullies, and it may not be wise to choose your closest friend which is a nation in a seperate continent, just a thought......

 

[ISRO2]

yes, i think if you read back you will realise i was only expressing a note of caution and i agree with you on the whole.

however, i think it would be folly to not think the us have the potential to dump/hurt india - they do.

there **may** come a time when push comes to shove and india need to show their hand, for example are india with the SCO, or NATO?


remember india are living in a very very tough neighbourhood with plentyof bullies, and it may not be wise to choose your closest friend which is a nation in a seperate continent, just a thought......

Sir i totally agree with you. Americans are snakes. Cant be trusted upon. India's advantage is the population. After nuclear test america putted full restriction on india. Yet india grown rapidly sir. It was due to our population. Americans are americans. They same as snakes who believes in biting the helpers hand sir.

 

[dbc]

Sir i totally agree with you. Americans are snakes. Cant be trusted upon. India's advantage is the population. After nuclear test america putted full restriction on india. Yet india grown rapidly sir. It was due to our population. Americans are americans. They same as snakes who believes in biting the helpers hand sir.

Pray, do tell? why do you consider Americans to be snakes? On second thought, couldn't care less what you think...

 

[Developereo]

and favorite honey moon spot is Pakistan for both..........

and India will cater the function, in FATA and Balochistan. Glad you acknowledged it.

@inferno - Tech coop is good, US has more reasons for such coop then Indians and i doubt if it amounts to milking (what about the quid pro quo that Indians provide - diplomatic tag teaming.

Yes. The US values India's "diplomatic tag teaming".

That's probably why the US wants to keep India OUT of the Security Council.

Indians are just like Pakistanis minus the hate.

Clearly you missed the irony in that very statement.

 

[R.A.W.]

and India will cater the function, in FATA and Balochistan. Glad you acknowledged it.

And Pakistan would be shouting about it on the highest pitch that "yes they were here..... they were here.... we have given proof to Indians" and then some Pakistani will come and say "No you took it wrong... we did not gave any proof to India...."

And yeah Indians are also watching movies with them in Pakistan on Onida (Onida - Owners pride neighbors jealousy)....

 

[r3alist]

Sir i totally agree with you. Americans are snakes. Cant be trusted upon. India's advantage is the population. After nuclear test america putted full restriction on india. Yet india grown rapidly sir. It was due to our population. Americans are americans. They same as snakes who believes in biting the helpers hand sir.

well you are not the only one to think along such lines...

Jorge Hirsch, in an interview, suggested that unlike Russia and China, "India could indeed be bought off by US incentives like the Indo-US nuclear deal, because its shortsighted leaders don't recognize that they are committing national suicide by entering into this nuclear deal with the US." Jorge Hirsch, interview April 12, 2006 [55]:[56]

when you dance with the devil you have to wait until the music stops, pakistan should know....

 

[Developereo]

And Pakistan would be shouting about it on the highest pitch that "yes they were here..... they were here.... we have given proof to Indians" and then some Pakistani will come and say "No you took it wrong... we did not gave any proof to India...."

Nah. We just kill the Indians.

And the best part is the Indians can't even complain!
Because it would blow their cover.

And yeah Indians are also watching movies with them in Pakistan on Onida (Onida - Owners pride neighbors jealousy)....

Didn't get a single word of what you said there.

 

[R.A.W.]

Nah. We just kill the Indians.

And the best part is the Indians can't even complain!
Because it would blow their cover.
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No we are delighted if you are killing so called "Indians" with Pakistani passport and using your army resources for that. In fact we are happy about it. congrats.... for killing "indians"

Regarding claiming I do remember some one forced into submission after a long denial mode to ban its own organizations and accept its nationals.

 

[Developereo]

No we are delighted if you are killing so called "Indians" with Pakistani passport and using your army resources for that. In fact we are happy about it. congrats.... for killing "indians"

So we are both agreed, then. You can keep denying that they are Indian, and we will keep killing them.

Regarding claiming I do remember some one forced into submission after a long denial mode to ban its own organizations and accept its nationals.

Unlike India, we prefer to conduct our trials in the courts rather than the media. Once the Indian authorities stopped playing games with evidence in marathi and other nonsense, we examined the evidence and acted accordingly.

 

[EjazR]

Going back to the topic.

It is naive to think that India will know-tow USA no matter what happens to its national interests. India being a democratic country can not fail to ignore its interests when dealing with the US. Hence the brouhaha over the US-Indian nuclear deal. Ofcourse I personally think it was necessary to meet growing energy requirements, but there were some good counter arguments on how dependent we are becoming on the US. So its not a simple "You tell us and we will follow" relationship

Lets not forget that it was only in the 90s under Clinton and Bush that relations improved. Whereas Pakistan has had relations with US since independence. Ofcourse the military rules have allowed the US to interfere more easliy into Pakistan.

I suggest a radical scenario where Pakistan does have improved relationship with India. Pakistan can rely on both Chinese and Indian backing to counter US influence. That would probably be the most scary thought for US.

 

[r3alist]

Going back to the topic.

It is naive to think that India will know-tow USA no matter what happens to its national interests. India being a democratic country can not fail to ignore its interests when dealing with the US. Hence the brouhaha over the US-Indian nuclear deal. Ofcourse I personally think it was necessary to meet growing energy requirements, but there were some good counter arguments on how dependent we are becoming on the US. So its not a simple "You tell us and we will follow" relationship

this is the issue india faces, sooner or later india will be forced to show its hand, nothing is for free and the nuclear deal with the us came with the clause to isolate iran.

so india may gain one powerful friend far away, but loose some closer to home.

 

[ISRO2]

Pray, do tell? why do you consider Americans to be snakes? On second thought, couldn't care less what you think...

Sir not only i think american is snake but am sure 99percent people here think the same. America the one indirectly feeding terrorists. Once terrorist ends then america would loose an excuse to be in other country. India choosed to be friend of america because we are neighbour of pakistan and china. So in case of war america would benefit india sir. America will show its real self but not until 2040 or so. By then india would be even more powerful so the america's effect on us wont be much sir. At the moment india needs military weapons and techology. America the one will provide us sir.

 

[R.A.W.]

So we are both agreed, then. You can keep denying that they are Indian, and we will keep killing them.



Unlike India, we prefer to conduct our trials in the courts rather than the media. Once the Indian authorities stopped playing games with evidence in marathi and other nonsense, we examined the evidence and acted accordingly.

So ahead kill them we dont have any problem.....

And dont worry about the proofs. World has accepted them as creditable. Dont worry wait for some time we will make you admit in submission for this also as we have done previously. Now we have become bit experienced in about how to get things done in Pakistan. Because GOP dont understand the diplomatic language.

 

[ISRO2]

this is the issue india faces, sooner or later india will be forced to show its hand, nothing is for free and the nuclear deal with the us came with the clause to isolate iran.

so india may gain one powerful friend far away, but loose some closer to home.

Sir iran is india's friend but on paper. iran the one who helped pakistan in war with india. Even though sir pakistan and iran lost. iran never deny that it helped pakistan. What kind of friend iran is who stabbing on india's back? Why did they help pakistan when india was enemy of america? What excuse iran had that time sir? iran a backstaber. Picking between america and iran is like picking between horse and donkey. Sir india better without friendship of iran.