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Textron unveils light attack Scorpion

NATIONAL HARBOR, MD. — Textron and AirLand today unveiled the Scorpion, a clean-sheet light attack platform that the companies are confident can make inroads in both the international and domestic markets.

The plane is in the “final stages” of integration tests, with a flight expected before the end of the year, Scott Donnelly, chairman and CEO of Textron, told reporters today. He said the aircraft has already run successful tests of the ejector seat and engines.

Company officials unveiled the design, in works since January 2012 at a Wichita, Kan., facility, during the annual Air Force Association Air & Space Conference in National Harbor, Md.

The Scorpion comes with twin turbofan engines and a tandem cockpit, although the jet is designed to be flown by a single pilot. There are six hard points on the plane that could hold a variety of equipment, from extra fuel to Hellfire missiles.

Potential competitors to the Scorpion, such as the Embraer Super Tucano and Beechcraft AT-6, are turboprop designs notable for their low-cost design. Donnelly, however, expressed confidence that his design would be priced similarly to a turboprop, while providing greater capabilities.

Donnelly expects a per-hour operating cost of around $3,000, significantly less than highly capable aircraft such as the F-16 or F-35.

The backing officials see the ISR capabilities as what really sets the plane apart. The Scorpion can carry 3,000 pounds of ISR equipment, with a modular design to allow customers to select what equipment should be on the plane. It boasts five hours of long-loiter time as well.

While the company has had conversations with potential customers, it was not willing to identify any specific areas of growth. However, both the Middle East and the Pacific have proven fertile grounds for light attack craft in the past.

Given budget cuts around the world, it seems potentially dangerous for a company to create a new plane without a requirement. But Donnelly insists that gives his group an entrance into the worldwide market.

“Our view has always been that we know the US and partner nations are all going to have budgetary challenges, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a mission requirement,” he said. “We’re offering a solution to people who have budgetary challenge and still have mission requirements. This is not a competitor to an F-35. The vast majority of missions don’t need that.”

Domestically, the Scorpion team is also keeping an eye on the Air Force’s T-X trainer replacement program. Donnelly indicated that by swapping the two engines with a single engine and changing the wings on the plane, the fighter would match up ideally with the expected requirements for the T-X program, potentially worth billions of dollars.

That kind of design flexibility will be key for making market headway, said former Air Force Secretary Whit Peters, who consulted for AirLand on the design of the plane.

“For the international market, its’ critical,” Peters said of the flexibility of the plane. Because its can be hard to know what technologies will and will not be exportable, it is important to be able to make a baseline airplane that can be exportable and then modified for customers, Peters said.

He indicated that worldwide fleets of A-37s, as well as the US Air Force’s fleets of A-10s and F-15Cs, could be platforms replaced by the Scorpion. Both those Air Force platforms are potentially on the cutting block due to sequestration.

Textron unveils light attack Scorpion | Defense News | defensenews.com

Here is the Pic of the Plane:

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Aren't they relying on drones for light air-to-ground attacks? Why this? :what:
 
younger bro of F14 tomcat

looks more like the younger bro of F-14 tomcat, who ate too many donuts.

Aren't they relying on drones for light air-to-ground attacks? Why this? :what:

Drones have a lot of practical applications, but manned aircrafts will always be needed. If a drone loses it's signal with HQ or CC, then it's pretty much useless, unless it's 100% autonomous, and even then, there are a lot of downsides to it, such as signal hacking. With a manned aircraft, you get rid of a lot of those issues.
 
The concept perhaps is the same as was behind F-5. Keep things simple and cost effective.
 
ITS AN OTHER WAY TO WASTE MONEY OF TAX PAYERS JUTS LIKE JSF
 
He indicated that worldwide fleets of A-37s, as well as the US Air Force’s fleets of A-10s and F-15Cs, could be platforms replaced by the Scorpion. Both those Air Force platforms are potentially on the cutting block due to sequestration.
Might be useful as a trainer and light attack or ground support aircraft, but how can this fatty aircraft replace A-10 and F-15C? F-15C's are much more capable, Scorpion can never replace it in any role, and as far as replacement for A-10's are concerned you need sleek aircraft with least cross-section possible, so as to provide very small area for ground forces to target, and also with sleek design you save lot of weight which is to be added as armour to protect pilot or other critical component of aircraft.
 
Might be useful as a trainer and light attack or ground support aircraft, but how can this fatty aircraft replace A-10 and F-15C? F-15C's are much more capable, Scorpion can never replace it in any role, and as far as replacement for A-10's are concerned you need sleek aircraft with least cross-section possible, so as to provide very small area for ground forces to target, and also with sleek design you save lot of weight which is to be added as armour to protect pilot or other critical component of aircraft.

Lets wait for further details to emerge and then we can discuss the capabilities of the plane.
 
Textron Scorpion Fighter Jet: Will It Take the Fight to ISIS?

One year ago, defense contractor Textron (NYSE: TXT ) announced plans to build a new, budget-priced fighter jet. Now, the new Textron Scorpion could soon land its very first sale -- and perhaps go to war with ISIS.

According to a Nov. 2 DefenseNews.com report, the United Arab Emirates is looking to beef up its air force, and is giving the Scorpion a good hard look. As well it should.

Systems(NASDAQOTH: BAESY ) . Similarly, the Arab nation's plans to purchase as many as four dozen M-346 trainer jets from Italy appear to have hit a snag. Yet even as the UAE's air force seems starved for new planes, the country has taken on a role supporting U.S. airstrikes against ISIS insurgents in Syria.

The UAE is using F-16 fighter jets to pound ISIS targets on the ground -- as is the United States. But using high-performance fighters for ground attacks is overkill. It would be more cost-effective to conduct these kinds of raids with cheap, light attack fighters -- such as Textron's Scorpion.

The Scorpion is estimated to cost less than $20 million per plane (and perhaps as little as $17 million). In contrast, deagel.com puts the unit cost of the Typhoons that UAE recently passed on at $124 million apiece -- on par with the price tag of a Lockheed Martin (NYSE:LMT ) F-35. And even the Italian M-346, a light attack aircraft that the UAE has been looking at as a possible jet trainer, is estimated to cost $48 million apiece -- more than twice the cost of a Textron Scorpion.

Good enough for the job?Granted, at a top speed of 500 mph, the subsonic Textron Scorpion wouldn't be of much use in a dogfight. Italy's M-346 and Eurofighter's Typhoon both have longer "legs." But for the limited purposes of intelligence, search, and reconnaissance, or for plinking ISIS tanks and Toyotas in the desert, 500 mph should more than do the trick. To emphasize the point, Textron advertises the Scorpion as coming complete with a bomb capacity of 3,000 pounds, along with six "hard points" for carrying rockets and bombs under its wings.

When you take out your calculator, and discover that for the price of a single M-346 you could buy two-and-a-half Scorpions -- or six Scorpions for the cost of just one Typhoon -- the case for buying Textron's new fighter jet only gets stronger.

What it means for investorsWith Textron profitable on a generally accepted accounting principles basis and rolling in cash (with more than $1.1 billion in trailing free cash flow, according to the latest data fromS&P Capital IQ), the Scorpion is hardly a make-or-break deal for the defense contractor. That said, the company did develop the Scorpion internally, without funding from the Pentagon, so it would dearly like to make a return on that investment.

Winning a first customer for Scorpion -- which could lend confidence to other buyers considering the Scorpion -- has proven an elusive goal. The prospect that Textron might finally have found its first buyer, though, should lend the company's investors a bit of confidence.

Textron has built Scorpion. It priced the jet right. All that remains now is for the first customer to arrive.

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Textron Scorpion Fighter Jet: Will It Take the Fight to ISIS?
 
Textron Scorpion Fighter Jet: Will It Take the Fight to ISIS?

One year ago, defense contractor Textron (NYSE: TXT ) announced plans to build a new, budget-priced fighter jet. Now, the new Textron Scorpion could soon land its very first sale -- and perhaps go to war with ISIS.

According to a Nov. 2 DefenseNews.com report, the United Arab Emirates is looking to beef up its air force, and is giving the Scorpion a good hard look. As well it should.

Systems(NASDAQOTH: BAESY ) . Similarly, the Arab nation's plans to purchase as many as four dozen M-346 trainer jets from Italy appear to have hit a snag. Yet even as the UAE's air force seems starved for new planes, the country has taken on a role supporting U.S. airstrikes against ISIS insurgents in Syria.

The UAE is using F-16 fighter jets to pound ISIS targets on the ground -- as is the United States. But using high-performance fighters for ground attacks is overkill. It would be more cost-effective to conduct these kinds of raids with cheap, light attack fighters -- such as Textron's Scorpion.

The Scorpion is estimated to cost less than $20 million per plane (and perhaps as little as $17 million). In contrast, deagel.com puts the unit cost of the Typhoons that UAE recently passed on at $124 million apiece -- on par with the price tag of a Lockheed Martin (NYSE:LMT ) F-35. And even the Italian M-346, a light attack aircraft that the UAE has been looking at as a possible jet trainer, is estimated to cost $48 million apiece -- more than twice the cost of a Textron Scorpion.

Good enough for the job?Granted, at a top speed of 500 mph, the subsonic Textron Scorpion wouldn't be of much use in a dogfight. Italy's M-346 and Eurofighter's Typhoon both have longer "legs." But for the limited purposes of intelligence, search, and reconnaissance, or for plinking ISIS tanks and Toyotas in the desert, 500 mph should more than do the trick. To emphasize the point, Textron advertises the Scorpion as coming complete with a bomb capacity of 3,000 pounds, along with six "hard points" for carrying rockets and bombs under its wings.

When you take out your calculator, and discover that for the price of a single M-346 you could buy two-and-a-half Scorpions -- or six Scorpions for the cost of just one Typhoon -- the case for buying Textron's new fighter jet only gets stronger.

What it means for investorsWith Textron profitable on a generally accepted accounting principles basis and rolling in cash (with more than $1.1 billion in trailing free cash flow, according to the latest data fromS&P Capital IQ), the Scorpion is hardly a make-or-break deal for the defense contractor. That said, the company did develop the Scorpion internally, without funding from the Pentagon, so it would dearly like to make a return on that investment.

Winning a first customer for Scorpion -- which could lend confidence to other buyers considering the Scorpion -- has proven an elusive goal. The prospect that Textron might finally have found its first buyer, though, should lend the company's investors a bit of confidence.

Textron has built Scorpion. It priced the jet right. All that remains now is for the first customer to arrive.

You already know record oil and natural gas production is changing the lives of millions of Americans. But what you probably haven’t heard is that the IRS is encouraging investors to support our growing energy renaissance, offering you a tax loophole to invest in some of America’s greatest energy companies. Take advantage of this profitable opportunity by grabbing your brand-new special report, “The IRS Is Daring You to Make This Investment Now!,” and you'll learn about the simple strategy to take advantage of a little-known IRS rule. Don't miss out on advice that could help you cut taxes for decades to come. Click here to learn more.

Rich Smith has no position in any stocks mentioned. The Motley Fool owns shares of Lockheed Martin and Textron. Try any of our Foolish newsletter services free for 30 days. We Fools may not all hold the same opinions, but we all believe that considering a diverse range of insights makes us better investors. The Motley Fool has a disclosure policy.

Textron Scorpion Fighter Jet: Will It Take the Fight to ISIS?


I'm not all that excited about the Textron.
UAE could go for second hand or brand new SU-25SM instead for the attack role
and the Scorpion isn't ideal to use as trainer either since it's not maneuverable so the M-346 is the best bet.
 
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