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Science still seen as male profession, according to international study of gender bias

No, it's based on what the word means, not what I say.
Yet you failed to show it despite me repeating your word means nothing....

I've said it a million times, you can find whatever you're looking for on the internet, even if it is not real.
No but we are talking about the science journal website..I am sure they know what they call science over your English dictionary and English degree :enjoy:

A scientist is a loose term, which we both agree on, but loose terms have no clear definition. The closest that comes is this..

sci·en·tist
ˈsīən(t)əst/
noun
  1. a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
And that is what the who article is about...Your point being?

I was talking about the title alone, and that wasn't even your argument.
The title was not my made up so arguing about it like I made it up is completely insane! Logically speaking you were commenting on an article's choice of words which happens to be on a reputable science journal's website

Just because you're good at biology, physics...etc, doesn't mean you have a good grasp of English.
Going personal isnt getting you anywhere! The journal chooses who or what they want to publish...I suggest you write to them if it is giving such a bad rash!

How about actually going on the site yourself, instead of just posting it as a link. You'd know just how wrong you are, if you bothered to actually check your own sources.

I did I posted their links genius! Science still seen as male profession, according to international study of gender bias | Science/AAAS | News Tell me did I change and MADE UP the title? Question is HAVE YOU gone to the site?

I said this a million times already, and you have the guts to call ME ignorant?
Why not? Just see how you reply....Taking a collective word, blasting a choice of word out of proportion....without backing your rant that it is wrong...

Do you even know what you're talking about? Comparing apples to oranges.
How so? Just coz Science has more established fields than the newly emerging sub fields of other studies doesnt make apples and oranges...

You presenting an argument without backing just coz you said so doesnt work in the real world!

Flawed logic, nothing more.
How is it flawed...You are saying you are right then by all means go and correct that wrong title!

A ridiculous comparison, again.

Name me ONE job that is simply science. Not biology, not chemistry, not physics...etc, just science. I'll save you the trouble, you can't.
Instead of 1 liners I suggest you present something or stop quoting me....1 job? And you will forever hold your obnoxious tongue? Science teacher... A very legit job which you can find on any job search engine!

Before you go in your denial mode, do understand that in the real world evidence weights more than your tantrums!

All you've done is prove my point, nothing more. Science is not a field, it is an all encompassing term for different fields and career paths.
I said before, go write to the journal, let them know they made a grave mistake

You're arguing for the sake of arguing. There is NO such thing as a science profession, only BRANCHES OF SCIENCE
You are denying for the sake of denying without backing it is more like a tantrum!

This is not me making up things, this is a well established public fact.

You've gone from "Science is a profession" to "Science is a collective term that can be interchangeable with career".
I have not gone from 1 to the other...I thought suggesting a different approach would help but you love to jump to conclusions....Lovely! Can a collective term not be used as a profession? When people say ARMY it ca mean any of the branches ...When they say CIVIL SERVANT as an occupation...it is a collective term yet it is not wrong to even use it in forms! So kindly either back yourself or just dont quote me!

Finally is Economics a profession?

Mises Daily | Mises Institute

Is doctor a profession? Though there is no degree calling itself BSc. doctor nor MSc. Doctor ....


However, to be fair:
Instead of Wikipedia had you presented me this ...I would have backed off....
“An occupation earns the right to be a profession only when some ideals, such as being an impartial counsel, doing no harm, or serving the greater good, are infused into the conduct of people in that occupation. In like vein, a school becomes a professional school only when it infuses those ideals into its graduates.”

The Big Idea: No, Management Is Not a Profession - HBR

However in the same article :

“True professions have codes of conduct, and the meaning and consequences of those codes are taught as part of the formal education of their members.”

And mind you science (collectively - or even individual since teachers) do have a code of conduct more to do with being a teacher than being a scientist... (in case you get another stroke, I am using it loosely)

From the same article in post 31:
The Big Idea: No, Management Is Not a Profession - HBR
What Is a Profession?

Professions are made up of particular categories of people from whom we seek advice and services because they have knowledge and skills that we do not. A doctor, for example, can recommend a course of treatment for an illness; a lawyer can advise us on a course of legal action. We cannot make these judgments ourselves—and often we cannot judge the quality of the advice we receive. The Nobel laureate Kenneth Arrow wrote about the medical profession, “The value of information is frequently not known in any meaningful sense to the buyer; if, indeed, he knew enough to measure the value of information, he would know the information itself. But information, in the form of skilled care, is precisely what is being bought from most physicians, and, indeed, from most professionals.”

It is true, of course, that most nonprofessional providers of goods and services also have knowledge that we don’t. We cannot, for instance, manufacture a computer or operate a train service. Nevertheless, we can judge whether or not our demand has been met: We know what to expect from our computer, and we know if our train is delayed. The difference is that we might act on a lawyer’s advice and not know its quality, even after the case has been completed. Perhaps she gave us good advice but the case was lost, or vice versa. The outcome might have been more or less favorable had her advice been different. We are in no position to know, because the professional is the expert and we are not. There is an asymmetry of knowledge.

In some cases the knowledge asymmetry is relatively transient. A taxi driver in a foreign town provides us with a service, using his knowledge of the local geography. Once we arrive at our destination, however, we can ask a local whether the driver’s route was the most direct, and thus reduce the asymmetry. But who evaluates legal advice for us? Although we could ask another lawyer, he couldn’t offer a second opinion without being informed of the details of our case—which would amount to hiring two lawyers to do the work of one. Furthermore, the two lawyers might advise us differently, and we’d be unable to distinguish the better advice.

In practice, our lawyer herself implicitly assures us that we can rely on the legal advice she is giving. This relatively permanent knowledge asymmetry is the mark of the true profession; as consumers, we have no option but to trust the professionals with whom we transact. Nevertheless, we might be unwilling to transact at all without some guarantee that the services we receive meet a minimum quality threshold. That requires the existence of professional bodies, whose regulatory role enables consumers to trust their advisers, thereby making a market for professional services feasible.

For a professional body in any given field to function, a discrete body of knowledge for that field must be defined, and the field’s boundaries must be established: When, for example, is something a medical or legal issue, and when is it not? There must also be a reasonable consensus within the field as to what the knowledge should consist of: If physicians cannot agree on how the human body functions, or lawyers on the nature of a contract, no discrete body of knowledge can be said to exist. The boundaries and consensus for any profession will evolve over time, but at any given moment they can be defined—which is what enables formal training and certification. Certification signals competence to consumers who would benefit from it.

Professional bodies hold a trusted position. They have, in effect, a contract with society at large: They control membership in the professions through examination and certification, maintain the quality of certified members through ongoing training and the enforcement of ethical standards, and may exclude anyone who fails to meet those standards. Society is rewarded for its trust with a professional quality that it would otherwise be unable to ensure. This is the model for the legal and medical professions and others, including accounting, architecture, and engineering.

As I will argue, neither the boundaries of the discipline of management nor a consensus on the requisite body of knowledge exists. No professional body is granted control, no formal entry or certification is required, no ethical standards are enforced, and no mechanism can exclude someone from practice. In short, management is not a profession. Moreover, management can never be a profession, and policies predicated on the assumption that it can are inherently flawed.

The Big Idea: No, Management Is Not a Profession - HBR

There is more you can carry on...I only wanted the definition and explanation

There is NO such thing as a science profession, only BRANCHES OF SCIENCE

Branches of science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Do you think other fields do not have branches? Or just because they are not well defined into separate schools you jump to conclusions?

Some 50 yrs ago, many SCIENTISTS did not draw any particular line between biology, chemistry and physics ....
 
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Yet you failed to show it despite me repeating your word means nothing....
I've already shown you what is needed.

No but we are talking about the science journal website..I am sure they know what they call science over your English dictionary and English degree :enjoy:
Because personal attacks prove your point, right?

And that is what the who article is about...Your point being?
My point...were you paying attention to what I wrote, probably not, because you keep repeating the same shit over and over again. I was talking about the title, not the content, my observation was simply about the title.

The title was not my made up so arguing about it like I made it up is completely insane! Logically speaking you were commenting on an article's choice of words which happens to be on a reputable science journal's website
I never said you made it, get off your self righteous high horse. I made a simple observation, and you decided to get offended over it. Even reputable sources can get things wrong once in a while.

Going personal isnt getting you anywhere! The journal chooses who or what they want to publish...I suggest you write to them if it is giving such a bad rash!
it was a general statement, I didn't go personal, and it was in reply to your own personal attack, which I chose to ignore.

I did I posted their links genius! Science still seen as male profession, according to international study of gender bias | Science/AAAS | News Tell me did I change and MADE UP the title? Question is HAVE YOU gone to the site?
How about reading which part of your comment I replied to, instead of jumping to conclusions. This wasn't the link I was talking about, "genius". I actually did go on your links, all of them, because I don't like jumping to conclusions.

Why not? Just see how you reply....Taking a collective word, blasting a choice of word out of proportion....without backing your rant that it is wrong...
Rant? I made an observation, it was you who decided to get offended about it. It was a mere observation, nothing more. You could have easily ignored it, but you decided that you wanted to start an argument over it.

How so? Just coz Science has more established fields than the newly emerging sub fields of other studies doesnt make apples and oranges...
Science isn't a field, it has fields, but they aren't sub-fields, they're literally the main fields. Fields of science refers to the many fields that the term encompasses, but there is no singular field of science. I've said this many times, even gave you a link to prove it, but you refuse to believe this very basic fact. They teach this in middle school.

You presenting an argument without backing just coz you said so doesnt work in the real world!
I'm not presenting an argument withing evidence, in fact, I've given you evidence of my claims, including definitions. If you want more evidence, here..

sci·ence
ˈsīəns/
noun
  1. the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
    "the world of science and technology"
    synonyms: branch of knowledge, body of knowledge/information, area of study,discipline, field
    "the science of criminology"
    • a particular area of this.
      plural noun: sciences
      "veterinary science"
    • a systematically organized body of knowledge on a particular subject.
      "the science of criminology"
      synonyms: physics, chemistry, biology; More
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science
[sahy-uh ns]
noun
1.a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truthssystematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws:the mathematical sciences.
2.systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained throughobservation and experimentation.
3.any of the branches of natural or physical science.
4.systematized knowledge in general.
5.knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematicstudy.
6.a particular branch of knowledge.
7.skill, especially reflecting a precise application of facts or principles;proficiency.

Science | Define Science at Dictionary.com

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What is science?

The Science Council's definition of science

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Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence.

Why define science?

The Science Council has ‘’science’ in its name but had not previously clarified what this actually meant. In addition to developing a better understanding of what types of organisations might become member bodies, it was felt that the recent inclusion of the advancement of science as a charitable activity in the 2006 Charities Act suggested that in that context a definition would be useful; and finally, the Science Council agreed that it wanted to be clearer when it talked about sound science and science based policy what it was actually describing.

Scientific methodology includes the following:
  • Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool)
  • Evidence
  • Experiment and/or observation as benchmarks for testing hypotheses
  • Induction: reasoning to establish general rules or conclusions drawn from facts or examples
  • Repetition
  • Critical analysis
  • Verification and testing: critical exposure to scrutiny, peer review and assessment
When we looked into this we found that definitions of science were not readily available, and were not easily accessible on the Internet.

Leading philosopher A C Grayling commended the Science Council’s definition
“Because 'science' denotes such a very wide range of activities a definition of it needs to be general; it certainly needs to cover investigation of the social as well as natural worlds; it needs the words “systematic” and “evidence”; and it needs to be simple and short. The definition succeeds in all these respects admirably, and I applaud it therefore”


What is science? | www.sciencecouncil.org

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How is it flawed...You are saying you are right then by all means go and correct that wrong title!
I did, and it is flawed because you're saying they're right and I'm wrong, by doing exactly what you're accusing me of, no evidence. That is a flawed view. It's also using the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy, which dictates that because someone is a particular authority of a subject, they're always right, even if they technically aren't. In this case, they're neither an authority on the subject of language, nor are they right.

Instead of 1 liners I suggest you present something or stop quoting me....1 job? And you will forever hold your obnoxious tongue? Science teacher... A very legit job which you can find on any job search engine!
You started quoting me, not the other way around. By the way, "science teacher" is also a generic term, and often misleading. The teacher isn't working in a "science field" as you claim, rather, the teacher is teaching different fields within science, such as biology, chemistry, and physics. There is a reason why "science" class stops existing when you reach high school (or equivalent), because you have to take biology, chemistry and physics individually.

So, in the end, you haven't given me a proper answer, and have simply given me an answer that you yourself know little about.

Before you go in your denial mode, do understand that in the real world evidence weights more than your tantrums!
I'm not denying anything, because there is nothing to deny. Tantrums? Like I said, you saw fit to get offended by my simple observation. If anyone here is throwing a tantrum, it is you.

I said before, go write to the journal, let them know they made a grave mistake
Why should I do that? I made a simple observation. It isn't my job to correct them, when they should already know this.

You are denying for the sake of denying without backing it is more like a tantrum!
I've presented more than enough logic and evidence, it's up to you to believe me or not. Providing a logical argument isn't throwing a tantrum, you arguing for the same of arguing is throwing a tantrum.

I have not gone from 1 to the other...I thought suggesting a different approach would help but you love to jump to conclusions....Lovely! Can a collective term not be used as a profession? When people say ARMY it ca mean any of the branches ...When they say CIVIL SERVANT as an occupation...it is a collective term yet it is not wrong to even use it in forms! So kindly either back yourself or just dont quote me!
Again, you quoted me, not the other way around. You seem to have some sort of victim complex going on.

And yes, it IS wrong to say that your occupation is "civil servant", or "army". Saying "I'm in the army", is not the same as "Army is my job". "I'm in the army" means that the person works within the confines of army, it doesn't define his military position, it's like saying "I work for microsoft". That is also not the same as saying "I work for science", or "I work in science", or "I work science at microsoft": likewise, "Army is my job" is also a ridiculous statement.

Finally is Economics a profession?

Mises Daily | Mises Institute
From what I can tell? Yes, economist is a literal job title; Scientist is a generic term.

is doctor a profession? Though there is no degree calling itself BSc. doctor nor MSc. Doctor ....
Doctor is a title, that should be self explanatory.

However, to be fair:
Instead of Wikipedia had you presented me this ...I would have backed off....
“An occupation earns the right to be a profession only when some ideals, such as being an impartial counsel, doing no harm, or serving the greater good, are infused into the conduct of people in that occupation. In like vein, a school becomes a professional school only when it infuses those ideals into its graduates.”

The Big Idea: No, Management Is Not a Profession - HBR

However in the same article :

“True professions have codes of conduct, and the meaning and consequences of those codes are taught as part of the formal education of their members.”

And mind you science (collectively - or even individual since teachers) do have a code of conduct more to do with being a teacher than being a scientist... (in case you get another stroke, I am using it loosely)
We both agree to a certain extent here. The code of conduct IS dependent on the different fields of science, because no two sciences are the field, thus the same code of conduct would not apply properly. A chemist doesn't follow the same rules are a biology, nor vice versa. However, as a collective, the rule doesn't apply, because as a collective, having a uniform code of conduct wouldn't make sense, simply because the fields of study within the realm of different sciences are completely different to each other: i.e, a uniform code of conduct simply doesn't exist, and that is where we disagree.

From the same article in post 31:
The Big Idea: No, Management Is Not a Profession - HBR
What Is a Profession?
Professions are made up of particular categories of people from whom we seek advice and services because they have knowledge and skills that we do not. A doctor, for example, can recommend a course of treatment for an illness; a lawyer can advise us on a course of legal action. We cannot make these judgments ourselves—and often we cannot judge the quality of the advice we receive. The Nobel laureate Kenneth Arrow wrote about the medical profession, “The value of information is frequently not known in any meaningful sense to the buyer; if, indeed, he knew enough to measure the value of information, he would know the information itself. But information, in the form of skilled care, is precisely what is being bought from most physicians, and, indeed, from most professionals.”

It is true, of course, that most nonprofessional providers of goods and services also have knowledge that we don’t. We cannot, for instance, manufacture a computer or operate a train service. Nevertheless, we can judge whether or not our demand has been met: We know what to expect from our computer, and we know if our train is delayed. The difference is that we might act on a lawyer’s advice and not know its quality, even after the case has been completed. Perhaps she gave us good advice but the case was lost, or vice versa. The outcome might have been more or less favorable had her advice been different. We are in no position to know, because the professional is the expert and we are not. There is an asymmetry of knowledge.

In some cases the knowledge asymmetry is relatively transient. A taxi driver in a foreign town provides us with a service, using his knowledge of the local geography. Once we arrive at our destination, however, we can ask a local whether the driver’s route was the most direct, and thus reduce the asymmetry. But who evaluates legal advice for us? Although we could ask another lawyer, he couldn’t offer a second opinion without being informed of the details of our case—which would amount to hiring two lawyers to do the work of one. Furthermore, the two lawyers might advise us differently, and we’d be unable to distinguish the better advice.

In practice, our lawyer herself implicitly assures us that we can rely on the legal advice she is giving. This relatively permanent knowledge asymmetry is the mark of the true profession; as consumers, we have no option but to trust the professionals with whom we transact. Nevertheless, we might be unwilling to transact at all without some guarantee that the services we receive meet a minimum quality threshold. That requires the existence of professional bodies, whose regulatory role enables consumers to trust their advisers, thereby making a market for professional services feasible.

For a professional body in any given field to function, a discrete body of knowledge for that field must be defined, and the field’s boundaries must be established: When, for example, is something a medical or legal issue, and when is it not? There must also be a reasonable consensus within the field as to what the knowledge should consist of: If physicians cannot agree on how the human body functions, or lawyers on the nature of a contract, no discrete body of knowledge can be said to exist. The boundaries and consensus for any profession will evolve over time, but at any given moment they can be defined—which is what enables formal training and certification. Certification signals competence to consumers who would benefit from it.

Professional bodies hold a trusted position. They have, in effect, a contract with society at large: They control membership in the professions through examination and certification, maintain the quality of certified members through ongoing training and the enforcement of ethical standards, and may exclude anyone who fails to meet those standards. Society is rewarded for its trust with a professional quality that it would otherwise be unable to ensure. This is the model for the legal and medical professions and others, including accounting, architecture, and engineering.

As I will argue, neither the boundaries of the discipline of management nor a consensus on the requisite body of knowledge exists. No professional body is granted control, no formal entry or certification is required, no ethical standards are enforced, and no mechanism can exclude someone from practice. In short, management is not a profession. Moreover, management can never be a profession, and policies predicated on the assumption that it can are inherently flawed.

The Big Idea: No, Management Is Not a Profession - HBR

There is more you can carry on...I only wanted the definition and explanation
This article really proves me right.

Do you think other fields do not have branches? Or just because they are not well defined into separate schools you jump to conclusions?
We're talking about Science, not other fields. Every field has a sub-field, but that doesn't mean you can compare one to another.

Jumping to conclusions is your job, not mine. I made a simple observation, and you jumped to the conclusion that I somehow offended your sensibility, after all, why would you be so defensive over a simple definition.

Some 50 yrs ago, many SCIENTISTS did not draw any particular line between biology, chemistry and physics ....
They did, and they've drawn lines for far FAR longer than 50 years ago. Physicists, Astronomers, Biologists, Chemists...etc, all had a defined line 50 years ago, and much longer before than. By the way 50 years ago was 1975, how old do you think the world is?

I've already proven my case by giving you exact definitions and relevant links, it's up to you to believe them. It was YOU who replied to ME, I simply made an observation about the title. If you want to get offended over a simple observation, that's up to you.

Whether or not you believe me, I doesn't matter. I'm done here.
 
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I've already shown you what is needed.
Nope you have not written to the website about your unease with their use of science as a profession

Because personal attacks prove your point, right?
I beg your pardon?

My point...were you paying attention to what I wrote, probably not, because you keep repeating the same shit over and over again. I was talking about the title, not the content, my observation was simply about the title.
And I did answer you...I didnt make it up...Ask the website - Using your logic I would guess you arent reading my post

I never said you made it, get off your self righteous high horse. I made a simple observation, and you decided to get offended over it. Even reputable sources can get things wrong once in a while.
:rofl: I wasnt offended I was amused but you dragged it out of proportion...And I already said a number of times, go write to them since you think they are wrong....Since I dont, I wont

it was a general statement, I didn't go personal, and it was in reply to your own personal attack, which I chose to ignore.
I never attacked you....Calling ignorance is a general term of a person lacking a portion of knowledge in the said field...

If I wanted to get it personal, there are more words to use than that...But I dont use them coz I dont take things to a new level...

How about reading which part of your comment I replied to, instead of jumping to conclusions. This wasn't the link I was talking about, "genius". I actually did go on your links, all of them, because I don't like jumping to conclusions.
I think you didnt visit or I am not getting the same page...The site has this on it

More Resources
Advice to a young scientist

At the bottom of the page there is : My Science Career



Now tell me what did you see?

Rant? I made an observation, it was you who decided to get offended about it. It was a mere observation, nothing more. You could have easily ignored it, but you decided that you wanted to start an argument over it.
I asked you to justify it but you thought that was asking for too much and dragged a conversation that could have ended there and then!

No not start an argument but to my understanding Science teacher is a job...you asked me to name one and I did.....

Science isn't a field, it has fields, but they aren't sub-fields, they're literally the main fields. Fields of science refers to the many fields that the term encompasses, but there is no singular field of science. I've said this many times, even gave you a link to prove it, but you refuse to believe this very basic fact. They teach this in middle school.
Wiki is not a link that is acceptable in science....any branch of it! From BSc to PhD they advice you not to use it coz any tom dick or harry can edit it anytime.

2ndly, Economics is also branching out so are many other fields....

I did, and it is flawed because you're saying they're right and I'm wrong, by doing exactly what you're accusing me of, no evidence. That is a flawed view. It's also using the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy, which dictates that because someone is a particular authority of a subject, they're always right, even if they technically aren't. In this case, they're neither an authority on the subject of language, nor are they right.
Then live with it....English is an evolving language...once upon a time people had their sentences arranged like Shakespeare now we dont....we also have some French words which were not introduced when the language was...Things change/ evolve some like to live the traditional way...Go to Cambridge and you will see their graduation ceremony still in Latin :)
 
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Nope you have not written to the website about your unease with their use of science as a profession
Do you even bother reading other people's comments? Clearly you don't, because you obviously didn't address my point, and instead posting rubbish here.

I beg your pardon?
You are pardoned.

And I did answer you...I didnt make it up...Ask the website - Using your logic I would guess you arent reading my post
You didn't. You strawmaned my argument. I was talking about your job link, not the article link. It should have been clear, as I directed replied to that particular link.


:rofl: I wasnt offended I was amused but you dragged it out of proportion...And I already said a number of times, go write to them since you think they are wrong....Since I dont, I wont
No, you were clearly offended, as you clearly feel like I wronged you. Why else would you be so defensive about a simple observation? Unless you're just insane.

I never attacked you....Calling ignorance is a general term of a person lacking a portion of knowledge in the said field...
In this case, I have the knowledge, so you are causing offense. Your comment was not based on an assumption of my supposed lack of knowledge, rather it was an insult to say that i'm not fit to argue with you (i.e dumb).

If I wanted to get it personal, there are more words to use than that...But I dont use them coz I dont take things to a new level...
Of course you do, and you have, denying it won't change that.

I think you didnt visit or I am not getting the same page...The site has this on it

More Resources
Advice to a young scientist

At the bottom of the page there is : My Science Career



Now tell me what did you see?
How about actually clicking on those links? This is where the "My Science Career" link leads to...
Science Careers | jobs | Choose from 3,532 live vacancies

Again, you don't even read your own links.
 
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Well, I personally think the ladies manage science pretty well, pun intended.
However, at some points excuses have to be let go of. Just push them girls
to it if they're inclined, that's all. Because sometimes the feminists are just
yelping for nothing as I mentioned here :
Kim and science guy. So, is that sexism too? | Definitive Lapse of Reason

Who has ever heard a guy complain he can't get a job at Hooters and all that!
Just saying' Tay.
 
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I asked you to justify it but you thought that was asking for too much and dragged a conversation that could have ended there and then!
There is nothing to justify. it's like asking for evidence that gravity exists, it's a common sense argument.

No not start an argument but to my understanding Science teacher is a job...you asked me to name one and I did.....
And I proved that your answer isn't good enough, because it's misleading. Your answer is dumb, and anyone can see through the flaw of it. Science "TEACHER", that should be self explanatory.

Wiki is not a link that is acceptable in science....any branch of it! From BSc to PhD they advice you not to use it coz any tom dick or harry can edit it anytime.
Yet it has citations which you can use. You target the source, yet you do not address the points.

2ndly, Economics is also branching out so are many other fields....
Of course it does, but that's not the point. Your comparison is flawed for precisely the reasons I previously pointed out.

Then live with it....English is an evolving language...once upon a time people had their sentences arranged like Shakespeare now we dont....we also have some French words which were not introduced when the language was...Things change/ evolve some like to live the traditional way...Go to Cambridge and you will see their graduation ceremony still in Latin :)
I don't mind people getting grammar wrong, nor punctuation, but changing the definition of a word is not "evolving" it, this is simply being dumb, nothing more. By your very logic, I can say Akheilos now means vomit, and I'm not wrong. Common sense dictates that words be used in their proper definition and context, simple as that.

@Akheilos I'm running out of battery life, I would argue some more, but I don't have that luxury. With that, I bid you, adieu.
 
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