Scholar: China should import ASEAN labor force to battle aging population

[SBUS-CXK]

Yes they will be all over and assimilate quickly

You got it wrong, they just took part in a China’s reality show ...
Speak Chinese does not mean that they are chinese.

 

[randomradio]

People from the Confucian sphere are desirable due to compatibility with the local culture. I have less faith in Indians assimilating as easily.

Race is a bigger problem than culture. But Indians will assimilate in the economy.

 

[52051]

The "scholar" is not mainstream, and his opinion has been seriously critized, China needs no immigrants, and should depart this kind of "scholars" to mars.

 

[Shotgunner51]

There are maybe 200,000 more Filipino housekeepers in China, who may not be holding work visas

Tens of thousands of Vietnamese technicians are working in Guangxi.

Fair point, this is not an immigration or social agenda, it's about labour, an economic policy discussion. Easing work visa (and/or other ways to lower entry barrier) to encourage more market-driven flow is not a bad idea. Despite massive automation/robotization in the some manufacturing sectors, there are still many others that face shortage of labour, say many increasingly important services sectors.

 

[52051]

Btw, China now actually tights the immigrant rules, strengthening the ancestry creition.

And China just publish a grade-based visa rule, basically they class the visa as three level and try to restrict the unskilled people from getting a visa.

So the "scholar" can go **** himself.

 

[Shotgunner51]

China Chases Silicon Valley Talent Who Are Worried About Trump Presidency
by Eric Baculinao
Dec 4 2016, 10:02 am ET

BEIJING — China is trying to capitalize on President-elect Donald Trump's hardline immigration stance and vow to clamp down on a foreign worker visa program that has been used to recruit thousands from overseas to Silicon Valley. Leading tech entrepreneurs, including Robin Li, the billionaire CEO of Baidu, China's largest search engine, see Trump's plans as a huge potential opportunity to lure tech talent away from the United States.

The country already offers incentives of up to $1 million as signing bonuses for those deemed "outstanding" and generous subsidies for start-ups.

Meanwhile, the Washington Post last month reported on comments made by Steve Bannon, who is now the president-elect's chief strategist, during a radio conversation with Trump in Nov. 2015. Bannon, the former Breitbart.com publisher, indicated that he didn't necessarily agree with the idea that foreign talent that goes to school in America should stay in America.

"When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think ...," Bannon said, trailing off. "A country is more than an economy. We're a civic society." ​

Baidu CEO Robin Li. Imaginechina

Comments like Bannon's and the president-elect's campaign pledges are music to the ears of tech leaders like Li.

"I read that an adviser to President-elect Donald Trump openly complained that three-quarters of CEOs in Silicon Valley are Asian immigrants," the influential entrepreneur said in a recent keynote speech at a state-sponsored conference, a copy of which was provided to NBC News by Baidu.

"Many entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley have expressed worries, especially after Trump's election, about the harm to the United States' capabilities in innovation," Li told the audience at China's third annual World Internet Conference.

"I truly hope that these excellent talents from various countries will migrate to China and help China play a more important role on the stage of global innovation." ​

He added: "I hope everybody will come to China, let's innovate together." ​

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump tours a Carrier factory with Vice President-elect Mike Pence in Indianapolis, Indiana, U.S., December 1, 2016. MIKE SEGAR / Reuters

As part of the plan for his first 100 days in office, Trump has vowed to prioritize immigration issues and "direct the Department of Labor to investigate all abuses of visa programs that undercut the American worker."

On the campaign trail, he denounced the H-1B visa program, which admits 85,000 foreign skilled workers and graduate students annually — many of whom work in the tech industry and eventually become legal U.S. residents or citizens.

"It's very bad for business … and it's very bad for our workers and it's unfair for our workers. And we should end it," he said.​

He sparked more uncertainty by naming Sen. Jeff Sessions, a long-time critic of the skilled-worker visa program, as his pick for attorney general. Sessions has accused tech firms in Silicon Valley of exploiting the program to pass over American labor for foreign workers to cut technology costs.

China's efforts to attract foreign workers has traditionally been hurt by Beijing's web censorship and strict government control of the internet. China has around 700 million internet users — who type a mind-boggling 35 billion words every day, according to the latest survey examining the behavior of the country's netizens.

But Li argued that the "global center of innovation is shifting," describing the world's second-largest economy as the "biggest and fastest growing internet market."

A Baidu spokesperson told NBC News that the company has a program to attract "top-tier talent" in China and abroad, to advance "Baidu's technological leadership in areas including artificial intelligence, big data, machine learning and autonomous diving."

A Baidu sign is seen during the third annual World Internet Conference in Jiaxing, China. ALY SONG / Reuters

Hugo Barra, a Brazilian computer scientist, stunned the technology world in 2013 by leaving his post as Google's vice-president in charge of its Android division to join a private Chinese startup called Xiaomi.

As Xiaomi's international vice-president, Barra has taken charge of global expansion for the smartphone company that has been compared to Apple for its slick marketing and management.

The Beijing-based firm has now become the world's fourth-biggest smartphone maker and is broadening its businesses to mobile apps, laptops and Wi-Fi-enabled consumer electronics.

Analysts have also noted China's emergence as the world's biggest e-commerce market and a leading innovator in mobile services, on the strength of the country's estimated 600 million smartphone users, which is expected to reach 700 million by 2019.

WeChat, China's smash-hit messaging app owned by Tencent, the country's most valuable tech company, has also become a mobile payment giant that is chasing market leader Alipay. The two companies had the lion's share of last year's mobile transactions of $235 billion, pushing China ahead of the U.S. where the market was $231 billion, according to data provider Euromonitor International.

China is also leading the global innovation race. Of the 2.9 million patent applications worldwide in 2015, about 1 million of them came from China. In comparison, 526,000 applications came from the U.S., according to data released by the World Intellectual Property Organization.

Success stories include Dajiang Innovations (DJI) — the world's biggest maker of consumer and small commercial drones. The Chinese start-up boasts three factories in the booming city of Shenzhen, a marketing office in Los Angeles that works with filmmakers, and a Frankfurt office which deals with content partners.

Drones on display at the headquarters of DJI in Shenzhen, China, in April. Stringer / Imaginechina

Paul Pan, DJI's product manager, saw the potential of the company and moved to Shenzhen from Silicon Valley in 2013. During a factory visit last year, he demonstrated to NBC News why DJI was an industry leader. From humble beginnings in a dorm room in 2006, the private company is now valued at over $10 billion.

Shenzhen itself is now widely considered "China's Silicon Valley" and has taken the lead in rolling out a massive subsidy program to attract high-tech talent. The southern city is currently led by Communist Party boss Ma Xingrui, a space scientist and former chief of China's moon mission. His ambition is to make the city a leading innovation hub as it sheds its image as a manufacturer of cheap goods for export.

Shenzhen's recruitment program has attracted 1219 "high-level talents" as of last year, according to Shenzhen Daily newspaper, of which 74 are "foreign experts."

Under a multi-category scheme updated in October last year, the highest incentive for so-called "Outstanding Talent" — a designation open for foreigners from 24 countries, including the United States, if the individual won a Nobel Prize in economics or physics — is an outright lump sum allowance of close to $1 million or 10 years free housing in a 2,200-square-foot apartment.

A lower category, an "Overseas Talent" who starts a business in the city, can receive a subsidy of up to $150,000.

In the past, Chinese companies could only attract Chinese engineers who studied abroad, Baidu's Li lamented.

But he pointed out that Trump's plans have created hope for China to attract "more and more talents from various countries and various nationalities."​

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/china/c...ey-talent-who-are-worried-about-trump-n688271

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

The "scholar" is not mainstream, and his opinion has been seriously critized, China needs no immigrants, and should depart this kind of "scholars" to mars.

If you do not want immigration, then stop the ridiculous birth control policies, and start producing more children.

 

[52051]

If you do not want immigration, then stop the ridiculous birth control policies, and start producing more children.

They have it done already.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

They have it done already.

No they are not. China's fertility rates are ridiculously low, so low that China is heading towards a demographic implosion.

 

[52051]

No they are not. China's fertility rates are ridiculously low, so low that China is heading towards a demographic implosion.

No, national-wide survey show there are 17.5 million new-born in 2016, the rate is comparable to that of most developed countries, and much higher than that of Japan.

And PRC has already relaxed that control and in many region actually encouraging birth through means like benefits and tax-cut.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

No, national-wide survey show there are 17.5 million new-born in 2016, the rate is comparable to that of most developed countries, and much higher than that of Japan.

And PRC has already relaxed that control and in many region actually encouraging birth through means like benefits and tax-cut.

According to my knowledge there were 16 million new borns and it was down from previous year.

Can you cite your statistics?

 

[Dungeness]

Race is a bigger problem than culture. But Indians will assimilate in the economy.

I thought Indians are so proud of their "democracy", and value their "Freedom", more than Chinese "Golden Cage".

 

[nang2]

Usually, women in a country are capable of producing enough labor, as long as the government doesn't disable some part of the labor by some do-gooder policy like minimum wage or welfare handouts.

 

[艹艹艹]

According to my knowledge there were 16 million new borns and it was down from previous year.

Can you cite your statistics?

Indians should pay more attention to the employment problem in India.
By the way, you don't know China at all.

 

[gayMo]

You got it wrong, they just took part in a China’s reality show ...
Speak Chinese does not mean that they are chinese.

Assimilate does not mean you transform to another type. you bring your skills and seamlessly fit in and contribute positively to your host society. that's the story of indian immigrants in the west.