Say 'I love you' to Hindu men, Sadhvi Prachi tells Muslim women on triple talaq issue

[Reichsmarschall]

"deewaron ko lapet rakha hai" is a great catch phrase.

She would be your Ideal woman isn't she??

 

[SorryNotSorry]

She would be your Ideal woman isn't she??

Maybe if she lost a couple of pounds

 

[Areesh]

I actually wanted to mention this from the past couple of days you guys have seen what zia did to Pakistan we're still recovering from it you guys still have a chance to stop this extremism is a grave danger once your country go down that path it becomes almost impossible to pull out of it but thankfully we've started to recover and you guys can put a stop to it now.

Can you guys cut this unfair and stupid comparison. Zia was a military dictator while Modi & Yogi are elected by popular vote.

Can't you see the difference?

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Maybe if she lost a couple of pounds

 

[The Sandman]

Can you guys cut this unfair and stupid comparison. Zia was a military dictator while Modi & Yogi are elected by popular vote.

Can't you see the difference?

Arey yr it was an example the point is both are/were extremists and spread extremism, hate and intolerance etc.

 

[Areesh]

Arey yr it was an example the point is both are/were extremists and spread extremism, hate and intolerance etc.

There is a huge difference between the two. We didn't chose Zia. These guys elected Modi and Yogi.

I am sick of this illogical comparison.

 

[Liquidmetal]

Shown the door means becoming CM of a state or PM of India right??

LOL, brilliant reply. We should be so grateful for Pakistan. I was at a wedding with a lot of Kashmiris last night and they were praising Pakistan to hilt and we have to double our effort to free Indian occupied Kashmir from the yoke of these fascists.

Many Indians compare the current Indian dafuq with Pakistan, yep we have had our fair share of assholes but nobody supported them to become the PM and CMs of India. Of course Modi is not Muslim hating terrorist.

 

[StraightShooter]

Muslim women don't pray in mosque anywhere in the world

That is not true. Muslim women do pray in the mosques in US though they are segregated from the males. Muslim women in India would surely get this right shortly.

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Is it permissible for women to go and pray tahajjud in the mosque without a mahram when the mosque is next to the house and the men in the family do not do this prayer?.

Published Date: 2003-11-02
Praise be to Allaah.


It is permissible for women to go to the mosque and pray, subject to certain conditions. It is not one of these conditions that she should be accompanied by a mahram, so there is nothing wrong with her going to the mosque to pray without a mahram.

It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 7/332:

It is permissible for a Muslim woman to pray in the mosque and her husband does not have the right to stop her if she asks him for permission to do that, so long as she is properly covered and no part of her body is showing that it is forbidden for “strangers” (non mahrams) to see. It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “When your womenfolk ask you for permission to go to the mosque, give them permission.” According to another version, “Do not forbid women their share of the mosques if they ask you for permission.” Bilaal – a son of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar – said, “By Allaah, we will stop them.” ‘Abd-Allaah said to him, “I say ‘The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said…’ and you say, ‘We will stop them’?!” Both reports were narrated by Muslim.

If the woman is uncovered and any part of her body is showing that it is forbidden for “strangers” (non mahrams) to see, or she is wearing perfume, then it is not permissible for her to go out of her house in this state, let alone go out to the mosque and pray there, because of the fitnah (temptation) involved. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands…”

[al-Noor 24:31]

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

Zaynab al-Thaqafiyyah used to narrate that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If any one of you (women) attends ‘Isha’ prayer, let her not put on perfume that night.” According to another report, “If any one of you (women) attends the mosque, let her not put on perfume that night.” Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh.

It was proven in saheeh ahaadeeth that the women of the Sahaabah used to attend Fajr prayer in congregation, covering their faces, so that no one would recognize them. It was proven that ‘Amrah bint ‘Abd al-Rahmaan said: I heard ‘Aa’ishah, the wife of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), say: “If the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had seen the way the women are behaving, he would have forbidden them to go to the mosque as the women of the Children of Israel were forbidden.” It was said to ‘Amrah: Were the women of the Children of Israel forbidden to go to the mosque? She said: Yes. Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh.

These texts clearly indicate that if the Muslim woman adheres to proper Islamic etiquette in her dress and avoids adorning herself in ways that will provoke fitnah and affect those of weak faith, there is no reason why she should not pray in the mosque. If she appears in such a way that evil people and those in whose heart is a disease will be tempted by her, then she is not allowed to enter the mosque, rather she is not allowed to leave her home and attend the mosque.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 14/211:

There is nothing wrong with women attending taraaweeh prayers if there is no danger of fitnah, subject to the condition that they go out looking decent and not wearing adornments, make-up or perfume.

In his book Hiraasat al-Fadeelah (p. 86), Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd listed the conditions for women to go out to the mosque. He said:

Women are allowed to go out to the mosque according to the following rulings:

1- That there is no risk of them tempting others or being tempted

2- That their attendance will not lead to anything that is forbidden according to sharee’ah

3- That they do not jostle with men in the street or in the mosque

4- That they should go out not wearing perfume

5- That they should go out wearing hijab, not making a wanton display of their adornment

6- A door should be set aside in the mosque just for women to enter and exit, as mentioned in the hadeeth narrated in Sunan Abi Dawood and elsewhere.

7- The women’s rows should be behind the men

8- The best rows for women are those at the back, unlike the case for men

9- If the imam makes any mistake in his prayer, men should say “Subhan Allaah!” and women should clap

10-The women should leave the mosque before the men, and the men should wait until the women have dispersed to their homes, as mentioned in the hadeeth of Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with her) in Saheeh al-Bukhaari and elsewhere.

https://islamqa.info/en/49898

 

[Reichsmarschall]

That is not true. Muslim women do pray in the mosques in US though they are segregated from the males. Muslim women in India would surely get this right shortly.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Is it permissible for women to go and pray tahajjud in the mosque without a mahram when the mosque is next to the house and the men in the family do not do this prayer?.

Published Date: 2003-11-02
Praise be to Allaah.


It is permissible for women to go to the mosque and pray, subject to certain conditions. It is not one of these conditions that she should be accompanied by a mahram, so there is nothing wrong with her going to the mosque to pray without a mahram.

It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 7/332:

It is permissible for a Muslim woman to pray in the mosque and her husband does not have the right to stop her if she asks him for permission to do that, so long as she is properly covered and no part of her body is showing that it is forbidden for “strangers” (non mahrams) to see. It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “When your womenfolk ask you for permission to go to the mosque, give them permission.” According to another version, “Do not forbid women their share of the mosques if they ask you for permission.” Bilaal – a son of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar – said, “By Allaah, we will stop them.” ‘Abd-Allaah said to him, “I say ‘The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said…’ and you say, ‘We will stop them’?!” Both reports were narrated by Muslim.

If the woman is uncovered and any part of her body is showing that it is forbidden for “strangers” (non mahrams) to see, or she is wearing perfume, then it is not permissible for her to go out of her house in this state, let alone go out to the mosque and pray there, because of the fitnah (temptation) involved. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands…”

[al-Noor 24:31]

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

Zaynab al-Thaqafiyyah used to narrate that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If any one of you (women) attends ‘Isha’ prayer, let her not put on perfume that night.” According to another report, “If any one of you (women) attends the mosque, let her not put on perfume that night.” Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh.

It was proven in saheeh ahaadeeth that the women of the Sahaabah used to attend Fajr prayer in congregation, covering their faces, so that no one would recognize them. It was proven that ‘Amrah bint ‘Abd al-Rahmaan said: I heard ‘Aa’ishah, the wife of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), say: “If the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had seen the way the women are behaving, he would have forbidden them to go to the mosque as the women of the Children of Israel were forbidden.” It was said to ‘Amrah: Were the women of the Children of Israel forbidden to go to the mosque? She said: Yes. Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh.

These texts clearly indicate that if the Muslim woman adheres to proper Islamic etiquette in her dress and avoids adorning herself in ways that will provoke fitnah and affect those of weak faith, there is no reason why she should not pray in the mosque. If she appears in such a way that evil people and those in whose heart is a disease will be tempted by her, then she is not allowed to enter the mosque, rather she is not allowed to leave her home and attend the mosque.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 14/211:

There is nothing wrong with women attending taraaweeh prayers if there is no danger of fitnah, subject to the condition that they go out looking decent and not wearing adornments, make-up or perfume.

In his book Hiraasat al-Fadeelah (p. 86), Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd listed the conditions for women to go out to the mosque. He said:

Women are allowed to go out to the mosque according to the following rulings:

1- That there is no risk of them tempting others or being tempted

2- That their attendance will not lead to anything that is forbidden according to sharee’ah

3- That they do not jostle with men in the street or in the mosque

4- That they should go out not wearing perfume

5- That they should go out wearing hijab, not making a wanton display of their adornment

6- A door should be set aside in the mosque just for women to enter and exit, as mentioned in the hadeeth narrated in Sunan Abi Dawood and elsewhere.

7- The women’s rows should be behind the men

8- The best rows for women are those at the back, unlike the case for men

9- If the imam makes any mistake in his prayer, men should say “Subhan Allaah!” and women should clap

10-The women should leave the mosque before the men, and the men should wait until the women have dispersed to their homes, as mentioned in the hadeeth of Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with her) in Saheeh al-Bukhaari and elsewhere.

https://islamqa.info/en/49898

Thanks for the detailed reply

 

[Hell hound]

Dafuq?
@Zibago @django @Hell hound @Mentee

shiv sena enough said

 

[Areesh]

Yr i know but baat wohi a jati hai it was never enough to get rid of him history tells us that he ruled for 11 years and this is a fact that no one can deny now we can try to bring in arguments but it won't change the fact that people accepted his rule!

it was a military rule. far different from the joke of a democracy in this country India.

People accepted Zia or not. They never elected him in the first place. You are just debating for the sake of it I think.

 

[The Sandman]

it was a military rule. far different from the joke of a democracy in this country India.

People accepted Zia or not. They never elected him in the first place.

Acha yr na maan i still have to say something but let it be we're derailing the thread anyway

You are just debating for the sake of it I think.

Hey you quoted me first remember?

 

[Zibago]

Saying 'talaq, talaq, talaq' doesn't amount to anything: Vice President wife:

Learn from us
Even the hardline Mullahs are against it in Pakistan
https://www.dawn.com/news/1158471

Because that explains her lack of trust in Indian judiciary that it will be able to give justice to those women who are divorced by their husbands stranding them. Trouble from triple talaq doesn't warrant leaving their faith in religion as both are separate. Whoever claims both are same coin's side is just not well versed with Indian judicial system.

Take a leaf out of our laws

Although he is slightly incorrect at some points i think this Indian lawyer explains Pakistani laws in a balanced manner you guys should take Muslim leaders on board and implement it in India we have reasonable marriage laws
@django @The Sandman @I.R.A @Hell hound

Thanks Ayub for giving us dams,Islamabad,Muslim Family Law,first population control program and listening to Wlady and Abdus Salam when they requested him to start a space and nuclear program

 

[Hell hound]

Thanks Ayub

the best leader pakistan ever had after qauid

 

[The Sandman]

Thanks Ayub for giving us dams,Islamabad,Muslim Family Law,first population control program and listening to Wlady and Abdus Salam when they requested him to start a space and nuclear program

I just wish we get 1 just 1 FREAKING civilian leader like him again just 1!