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Saudis Planning For A War Of Attrition In Europe With Russia’s Oil Industry | OilPrice.com


Russia’s central bank recently warned about the growing financial risks to the Russian economy from Saudi Arabia encroaching upon its traditional export market for crude oil. Russia sends 70 percent of its oil to Europe, but Saudi Arabia has been making inroads in the European market amid the oil price downturn.

The result is a heavier discount for Russia’s crude oil, the so-called Urals blend. Bloomberg reported that the Urals typically lands in Rotterdam, a major European destination, at a discount to Brent of around $2 or less. But the discount has widened to $3.50 lately due to increased competition from Saudi Arabia. “Oil supplies to Europe from Saudi Arabia are probably adversely affecting Urals prices,” the Russian central bank warned in a recent report.

Russian officials have accused Saudi Arabia of “dumping” its oil in Europe, a movethat Rosneft chief Igor Sechin said would “backfire.”

Russia’s economy has been battered by the collapse in crude prices, compounded by the screws of western sanctions. The Russian economy could shrink by 3.2 percent this year.

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Oil exports account for around half of the revenue taken in by the Russian government. And for an economy so dependent on oil, it is no surprise that the plummeting crude oil price has led to a dramatic depreciation of the ruble, although over the past month the currency regained some lost ground. The weakening currency has pushed up inflation, which creates a conundrum for the Russian central bank.

To stop the ruble from plunging further and to keep inflation from spiraling ever upwards, the Russian central bank took aggressive action by hiking interest ratesto as high as 17 percent at the beginning of 2015. However, that has negatively impacted the economy. As the ruble stabilized, the bank dialed the interest rate back to 11 percent, where it stands today.

In response to the tough financial circumstances that Russia has found itself in, it sees no choice but to squeeze as much oil out of its aging fields as it can. So far, it has succeeded to some extent. Russian oil production is expected to rise by a modest 70,000 barrels per day in 2015, averaging 10.75 million barrels per day (mb/d) over the course of this year. Output hit a post-Soviet record of 10.78 mb/d in October, according to OPEC’s latest monthly report.

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However, the upside to Russia’s oil production is limited. The Russian government needs revenue, so is not keen to cut taxes. The government is mulling a delay in the planned cut in export taxes, which, according to OPEC, could result in oil companies paying an additional $2 to $3 billion more in taxes. That could modestly cut into overall Russian oil production, perhaps pushing output down by 0.1 to 0.2 mb/d. In any case, Russia probably can’t boost output any further. OPEC predicts Russia’s oil production will remain flat through next year.

Related: Oil Tankers Are Filling Up As Global Storage Space Runs Low

Globally, the competition between oil exporters won’t ease in the near term. There are still too many barrels of crude floating around. OPEC predicts that non-OPEC supply will contract by just 0.13 mb/d in 2016, a rather trivial amount considering the extreme cut backs in investment and drilling activity.

Despite the fact that OPEC officials have consistently put on a brave face in public, insisting that markets will balance relatively quickly, OPEC’s numbers tell a different story. The cartel sees U.S. shale contracting by just 100,000 barrels per day in 2016 from 2015, a volume that is nearly offset by several new projects beginning operations in the Gulf of Mexico.

Which brings us back to Europe. Saudi Arabia could be playing a longer game, intensifying its market share strategy by encroaching on Russia’s traditional market in Europe. An increase in Saudi oil flowing to Europe threatens to undermine Russia’s principle market. In its November report, OPEC reported that the Urals discount to Brent “almost tripled in October amid plentiful supplies, sagging refinery margins and wide availability of alternative grades from the Middle East.”
 
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so while Russia is planning on sending it's crude to China the Sauds are taking over Europe :D


both are killing themselves for that market share.

heavy discount on top of low oil in the low $40, insanity
 
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Russia has PAK FA. Saudi Arabia can't even make a single bullet. :lol: Saudi Arabia has no right to compete with Russia.

 
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This is the reason why West is so enamoured of Saudia. It serves as the West sledghammer to keep Putin in check. That is why despite what happens in Paris if something happened in Riyad next week President Hollandai would be on first flight out to court the Saudi's. Money talks bullsh*t walks.

When we all know who is the biggest sponsor of jihadism. Both financial and idealogical.

single bullet

They don't need to. They can buy anything and everything from USA. They don't even have to go there. The West comes running to Riyad. Hell they can even hire the entire United States military. Think first Gulf War. Think cool $62 billion.

Geology and luck are amazing things.

@ultron What happened? Indian's and Russian's got togather. Made a plane. What was the Indian contribution? Naming it "Pak"?
 
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They don't need to. They can buy anything and everything from USA. They don't even have to go there. The West comes running to Riyad. Hell they can even hire the entire United States military. Think first Gulf War. Think cool $62 billion.

Geology and luck are amazing things.

$62 billion is peanuts. Once their money runs out US will throw them into the trash, their 'alliance' ends at the chequebook. Americans almost universally despise SA and would love to see them collapse.

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SA is burning through their foreign reserves at a rate of $10 Billion a month now. They are getting screwed by low oil prices and they don't know what to do about it now. Iraq production is coming back online, Iran sanctions are over, global demand is in a slump, USA is still #1 producer and the threat of electric cars going mainstream by 2020 is very real.

Increasing production will increase revenue in the short-run, but it will only lower oil prices even further in the long run. Cutting production means they will lose out market-share to Russia and Iran.

Their movement in Europe is a sign of desperation. Russia at least has a high tech industry and much more resources to sell than just oil. Russia can launch rockets, build nuclear plants, sell weapons, etc. All SA knows how to do is sell oil, support terrorism, and buy US guns.
 
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$62 billion is peanuts

1991 > $62 billion. Adjust it for todays money. This paid for half million men of US military along with most of air, armour assets shifted to Saudia. That is not peanuts in my book. Maybe in yours.

I am not pro Saudia but I can't delude myself into overlooking that they sit atop the largest oil reserves and they can extract it cheaper then most other countries. That explains why half the worlds who is who gathered in Riyad to pay respect to the dead Saudi king. I doubt they went there for the wine.
 
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1991 > $62 billion. Adjust it for todays money. This paid for half million men of US military along with most of air, armour assets shifted to Saudia. That is not peanuts in my book. Maybe in yours.

I am not pro Saudia but I can't delude myself into overlooking that they sit atop the largest oil reserves and they can extract it cheaper then most other countries. That explains why half the worlds who is who gathered in Riyad to pay respect to the dead Saudi king. I doubt they went there for the wine.

That is not quite right. The total cost of war was $62 billion in 1991 dollars, and Gulf contribution was $36 billion in 1991 dollars. Of that amount SA paid roughly $16 billion in total.

How much did the Gulf War cost the US?

In 2015 numbers that only amounts to $101 billion for the total cost of war, $63 billion for all gulf countries and $31.5 billion for SA.

That number is peanuts for war compared to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Nobody is denying SA influence on the world, but the trend in 2015 and going forward is that their best years are behind them. There is no foreseeable way for them to increase influence beyond current metrics, because Oil diplomacy is coming to an end for a variety of reasons which I described above. Their last avenue of influence is covert support of terrorism, but if the oil influence/money dries up there will be a lot less money to send with a lot more nations pressuring them, and US carte-blanche on SA policies will end. For example, US denied UN Human Rights investigations into Yemen War on behalf of the Saudis.

To sum it up the SA influence on the world in 2020 will be a shadow of what they were in 2013, although still relevant.
 
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People forget that KSA is US's oldest ally in the middle east. Saudis say that it is in their interest to side with the west, but in the process they are needlessly making an enemy out of Russia. What if Russia weathers the storm. Will they forget the Saudi treatment?
 
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That is not quite right. The total cost of war was $62 billion in 1991 dollars, and Gulf contribution was $36 billion in 1991 dollars. Of that amount SA paid roughly $16 billion in total.

How much did the Gulf War cost the US?

In 2015 numbers that only amounts to $101 billion for the total cost of war, $63 billion for all gulf countries and $31.5 billion for SA.

That number is peanuts for war compared to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Nobody is denying SA influence on the world, but the trend in 2015 and going forward is that their best years are behind them. There is no foreseeable way for them to increase influence beyond current metrics, because Oil diplomacy is coming to an end for a variety of reasons which I described above. Their last avenue of influence is covert support of terrorism, but if the oil influence/money dries up there will be a lot less money to send with a lot more nations pressuring them, and US carte-blanche on SA policies will end. For example, US denied UN Human Rights investigations into Yemen War on behalf of the Saudis.

To sum it up the SA influence on the world in 2020 will be a shadow of what they were in 2013, although still relevant.

Well if your right it can only be good news for the entire Islamic world. We might just see Salafism abate.
 
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Saudis are just selling their product. Russia pissed off its customer playing games with gas supply and supries supries they are looking to get their oil else where.
You cant play cold war tough guy with subs lurking round people harbours badgers and backfires doing spoof bombing runs and have a foreign policy that consists of Stuff you were Russia we do what we want, then turn around and say but please buy stuff from us, you can trust us.
 
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Looks like saudi will get bankrupt in less than two years, good news for humanity.
 
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I suspect if things continue on the same course into 2016 OPEC will go defunct. I mean Saudi Arabia is OPEC and if OPEC isn't helping you why stick with it??

it's countries like Venezuela,Algeria,Nigeria,Ecuador getting burnt!! they don't have the same reserves as the GCC members

if U.S,Russia,China worked together they could break the chains of oil dependence by OPEC
 
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$62 billion is peanuts. Once their money runs out US will throw them into the trash, their 'alliance' ends at the chequebook. Americans almost universally despise SA and would love to see them collapse.

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SA is burning through their foreign reserves at a rate of $10 Billion a month now. They are getting screwed by low oil prices and they don't know what to do about it now. Iraq production is coming back online, Iran sanctions are over, global demand is in a slump, USA is still #1 producer and the threat of electric cars going mainstream by 2020 is very real.

Increasing production will increase revenue in the short-run, but it will only lower oil prices even further in the long run. Cutting production means they will lose out market-share to Russia and Iran.

Their movement in Europe is a sign of desperation. Russia at least has a high tech industry and much more resources to sell than just oil. Russia can launch rockets, build nuclear plants, sell weapons, etc. All SA knows how to do is sell oil, support terrorism, and buy US guns.

I wonder why Russia sells over 70% of its oil to Europe, why don't it sell its oil more to China and India than to Europe?:undecided:

Moreover you are wrong, Russia is still very much reliant on its natural resources(oil and gas) for its economic growth. The other sectors you mentioned are secondary in importance. Russia's primary revenue comes mainly from Oil and Gas/natural resources. So yes if this sector is negatively affected, then Russia will feel the effects badly like it has been doing this past year.:bounce:
 
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