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I try to see things objectively. I don't always succeed, but I try.

You're right, the GCC did not support us on Kashmir, at least not ostensibly. But they helped us avoid a serious economic crisis - on several occasions. Granted they have their interests - who doesn't? But their help came at a time when we were in pretty dire straits.

Would you acknowledge that?
It wasnt a gift Pakistan had to do things in return. Like guarding their sovereignty so no, it wasnt something out of the ordinary. Would till support Turkey over the indian loving Arabs
 
Pakistani general and military ruler Yahya Khan was supposedly Qazilbash according to this NY Times article:

https://www.nytimes.com/1971/05/25/archives/martial-pakistani-chief-agha-mohammad-yahya.html
There are also many people with the name qizilbash in Afghanistan and India I think one of the Afghani prime ministers during the monarchy was also a qizilbash also note the the qutb shahi dynasty in India were descendants from black sheep Turkmen confederation
 
Im sorry but Arabs cant just claim Mohammad and Islam.
He came to reform the whole world.
However Allah sent so many Prophets to both Arabs and Jews... And we know why God sent so many on these both people.
I speak from none religious point of view for me Muhammad was great Arab leader and Arab national hero
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
I wanted to say, we must end this hostilities and rebuild Islamic civilization.
And the only way to achieve that is emphasize on our similarities and our same unconscious through history.
You should know Turkic invasion and after that the most catastrophe happen to us till today is Mongol invasion of Islamic world which put huge cost on Islamic civilization till today however mongols become Muslim and our brothers but they destroyed every thing and killed and burnt scientists and science.
In todays world there is no islamic civilization and be sure that ummah will never happen. The closest thing to ummah is GCC which has internal conflicts in many fields. I spare you the joke which is called arab league.

Speaking for Iran, we cannot exclude non-muslims as (trade) partners or allies. We must work with both China and India for example, but China has uygur prisoners and India is reducing autonomy of Kashmir. But we cannot afford to disrupt our relation with some countries because of being an Islamic country.

If we want to progress, we must identify ourself as an asian country instead of islamic country when dealing with non-shia islamic and non-shia asian countries. We should identify as shia country when having ties with Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, (and free Bahrain and free Yemen in future).

The zionist regime is a different case because zionism is against humanity but not always against Islam. In some places it benefits from islam (they support(ed) isis and al-qaeda).
 
What a Sad Time we are living in, When a brother is trying hard to shame its own brother.
Not all turks and Arabs were Good or bad but many of them paid with their lifes for future of islam.
 
The zionist regime is a different case because zionism is against humanity but not always against Islam. In some places it benefits from islam (they support(ed) isis and al-qaeda).

Not always against Islam? Are you blind? To their Greater Israel plan and what they are slowly doing to Arabs (or Muslims).

I think your stupid and pray your not Arab Because Zionism according to you is against humanity but not Islam. I didn’t know Islam (followers) were not part of humanity.

Now it makes sense why 120,000 prophets were sent to that area. God could have solved this whole situation by creating Pakistan even before the Persian Empire and giving us Islam.
 
My lifetime won't be enough to see these guys make something by THEMSELVES... Not sure if they are lazy or imcompetent...

The best part is, Saudis can't even really lay claim to giving the world Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) identified as Yemeni.

These Osman thugs tried to destroy Safavids kingdom too.

I'm glad the Pashtuns finished the job.
 
The best part is, Saudis can't even really lay claim to giving the world Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) identified as Yemeni.



I'm glad the Pashtuns finished the job.
The prophet was Hijazi


Afghans finished the weak persianized Turkic Safavid dynasty and they clashed with the ottomans until the brilliant Turkmen military leader Nader shah kicked them out
 
The prophet was Hijazi


Afghans finished the weak persianized Turkic Safavid dynasty and they clashed with the ottomans until the brilliant Turkmen military leader Nader shah kicked them out

Seljuks basically steamrolled the Arabs, Persians and the Greeks.

But but they are barbarians isnt it funny how you civilsation cucks get humilated by Alpha Male Nomads each tome we fight. Only advantage civilsation has is numbers and production nothing more.
 
Seljuks basically steamrolled the Arabs, Persians and the Greeks.

But but they are barbarians isnt it funny how you civilsation cucks get humilated by Alpha Male Nomads.
No one mentioned the Seljuks we are talking about the Safavids and Nader Shan Afshar the Turkmen

As for humiliation humans humiliated each other’s nomads humiliating Urbans and the vice versa
 
No one mentioned the Seljuks we are talking about the Safavids and Nader Shan Afshar the Turkmen

As for humiliation humans humiliated each other’s nomads humiliating Urbans and the vice versa
Ottomans and Turks in ANATOLIA never suffered any humiliation.
 
They did by Russia and Muhammad Ali the Seljuks of rum were humiliated by mongols.
That's not humiliation. Turks was WEAK by the 1800s. Where was Russia and Muahmmed fkAli before huh? Let me tell you, BEING COWARDS. Just like Arabs are now.
But who can deny Turks not fighting every major powers of its time? Arabs can never accomplish what OTTOMAN ANATOLIAN TURKS have.
No one can. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. :victory:
 
They did by Russia and Muhammad Ali the Seljuks of rum were humiliated by mongols.

Muhammed Ali was an ottoman. By the way he was Turkish only born in Albania.

Us Turks can even humilate our own empires.
 

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