Saudia, Bahrain, UAE & Egypt cut diplomatic ties with Qatar

[Saif al-Arab]

See but then Qatar has no Dubai as well.
I don't know but still better than Qatari supported Homosexual Jihad in Egypt report, don't you think?

Ridiculous news exists on both sides, sadly. However most people know when the line is crossed.

 

[Khafee]

Population of UAE and Qatar should be considered as you have done previously, calling Qatar a tiny country. That's a great performance for a tiny country.

The reason I asked you to visit both countries is because statistics aside, when you visit both countries, you can see for your self, how foreigners are treated, and what is their quality of life.

Just as an example, the UAE has the second largest Iranian Expat population (400k~500k).

 

[bsruzm]

The reason I asked you to visit both countries is because statistics aside, when you visit both countries, you can see for your self, how foreigners are treated, and what is their quality of life.

I really don't like how foreigners are treated in any Gulf countries honestly. I will not elaborate.

Just as an example, the UAE has the second largest Iranian Expat population (400k~500k).

Expats aside, there are considerable amount of Iranian origin-Emirati's.

Ridiculous news exists on both sides, sadly. However most people know when the line is crossed.

I don't think most people do as in example of @somebozo or Homosexual Jihad report. The poor Egyptian, who hears it on TV, would believe it definitely. Don't you think? That's not so Arabic or it is exactly?

What do you think about Turki al-Faisali? He doesn't post since his arrest has been rumored?
Saudi royal lashes out at UAE, defends former crown prince bin Nayef

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I really don't like how foreigners are treated in any Gulf countries honestly. I will not elaborate.
Expats aside, there are considerable amount of Iranian origin-Emirati's.
I don't think most people do as in example of @somebozo or Homosexual Jihad report. The poor Egyptian, who hears it on TV, would believe it definitely. Don't you think? That's not so Arabic or it is exactly.

What do you think about Turki al-Faisali? He doesn't post since his arrest has been rumored?
Saudi royal lashes out at UAE, defends former crown prince bin Nayef

They are treated overall very well. If the opposite was the case (if foreigners were treated badly in the GCC), the GCC would not host some of the largest expat communities in the entire world. I am afraid that you are not familiar with the ground realities. I am not talking about Arab expat here but all kind of expats (non-citizens).

Mostly of Iranian Arab origin and from Southern Iran (genuine Persians, Baloch etc.) which are close to Arabs (Arabians in particular and Iraqis) and fully assimilated as well as having intermarried. No problem with that. This has also been the case the other way around (Southern Iran - even more in fact).

@Khafee

I think that individuals, princes or not, who are acting contrary to the interests of the state and people, should learn how to do so.

I believe that Erdogan is of a similar opinion since he has the record (closely followed by the Mullah's) when it comes to jailing dissidents.

That son of the late King Fahd should voice his support for MbS and forget bin Nayef.

 

[Khafee]

I really don't like how foreigners are treated in any Gulf countries honestly. I will not elaborate.

Our population is 9.5m, and out of that Emiratis make up about 1.5m

Expats aside, there are considerable amount of Iranian origin-Emirati's.

The are Sunnis, who left iranian persecution 5~6 generations ago, and today are Emirati first.

 

[bsruzm]

That son of the late King Fahd should voice his support for MbS and forget bin Nayef.

So you mean he could be arrested? He seemingly was fine with MbS though?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

So you mean he could be arrested? He seemingly was fine with MbS though?

If princes can be executed they surely can be arrested. As can clerics and everyone else. Apparently, according to Qatari media, Bin Nayef (the former Crown Prince less than 3 months ago) is now jailed in his own Jeddah home.

BTW, I do not care about individual persons but the well-being of the country and people. Goes for all Arab countries. I have no allegiance to any political group or their opportunists. My allegiance is to Allah (swt), country and people and the Arab world and its well-being. I can disagree or not but weakening the country and thus the people cannot be tolerated unless the ruler is a unjust tyrant which is not the case with King Salman or MbS. Criticism is fine and even welcome (should be at least ) but outright hostile behavior cannot be tolerated in times like those let alone during a war (Yemen).

Qatari foreign policy in the Arab world has long been suicidal and it is time that they feel the consequences of the anger of their brothers and sisters. Hopefully they (current al-Thani leadership - the Qatari people are innocent of them) will learn this and not commit the same mistakes again.

Do I need to post more?

The one he is talking with is dead and his regime gone forever and the other was ousted and although he tries to rule using his son as a public figure, he too will be dealt with if he does not learn from his mistakes. However luckily for him he sold out his country to the Americans when they opened the Al-Udeid military base. So he is "safe" for now but only for the time being.

An ant should not bother a lion let alone a lion that has not harmed the ant yet although it easily could pre-1995.

 

[bsruzm]

I can disagree or not but weakening the country and thus the people cannot be tolerated unless the ruler is a unjust tyrant which is not the case with King Salman or MbS. Criticism is find and even welcome (should be at least) but outright hostile behavior cannot be tolerated in times like those let alone during a war (Yemen).

What is the biggest tribe in Saudi Arabia today? I heard that one of the senior figures of Shammari's said that "no authority can stop tribes to meet with each other." by pointing at blockade against Qatar. What do you think?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

What is the biggest tribe in Saudi Arabia today? I heard that one of the senior figures of Shammari's said that "no authority can stop tribes to meet with each other." by pointing at blockade against Qatar. What do you think?

This is disputed but the same tribes that used to live during and long before the time of Prophet Muhammad (saws) remain and newer ones (clans mainly but also some tribes) have emerged. 100's of ancient noble families, tribes, clans and dynastic families are well, safe and alive in KSA. House of Saud are the current rulers in a long list of rulers but they won't rule forever. Not only that their entire rule is dependent on the support and oath (ba'yah) that was given to them and the marriage ties that were established pre-Ibn Saud and post-Ibn Saud with those previously mentioned important families of KSA.

Relatives will not be prevented from engaging with each other or visiting each other like it was the case with Iraq (despite travel to Iraq being banned due to security situation) nor will/is that the case with Qatar. Or Syria. Or Yemen. However what is disappointing is the treatment of the current Qatari leadership of the Al-Ghofran tribe which lives in both Qatar and KSA.

BTW not long ago the former Emir of Qatar (father of the current one) visited his ancestral region (homeland of Al-Thani family) and his cousins in KSA (Najd):

In fact this visit occurred in late April of this year.

@Khafee

Once again there is no problem or hostility between the people. Rather the contrary. It is limited to regime policies and critics of regimes/policies. Even among the actual rulers despite the fact that there is a bond based on blood, marriage, religion, culture, language, geography, common present and future etc. that will always prevail eventually but it is a shame that certain Qatari policies have proven to be suicidal and negative for not only Qatar but the region and many Arab countries.

As for the blockade, I believe that movement of people of the GCC, should not have been included but I guess that the decision makers had their reasons for that. Anyway this has not stopped people from visiting each other or Qatari pilgrims from performing Hajj or Umrah.

 

[bsruzm]

Once again there is no problem or hostility between the people of the region. It is limited to regime policies and even despite this there is a bond based on blood, marriage, religion, culture, language, geography, common present and future etc. that will always prevail eventually but it is a shame that certain Qatari policies have proven to be suicidal and negative for not only Qatar but the region and many Arab countries.

You all are in a grave danger including Qatar

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You all are in a grave danger including Qatar

If you say so.

So is Turkey.

 

[bsruzm]

If you say so.

So is Turkey.

You will regret all these but I won't hear anything then. You better not forget this reply because I will remind when the time comes

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You will regret all these but I won't hear anything then. You better not forget this reply because I will remind when the time comes

I don't think so. So you will safe some time for sure.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I have met so many young Saudi students in Western Europe. They were amazing. Intelligent, educated and incredibly warm-hearted people. I almost immediately felt a bond between us. But only Allah knows what is happening to these skilled people after they go back to Saudi Arabia. It's like they totally disappear. Where are they? Why are they silent? Do they have jobs in Saudi?

 

[gangsta_rap]

I have met so many young Saudi students in Western Europe. They were amazing. Intelligent, educated and incredibly warm-hearted people. I almost immediately felt a bond between us. But only Allah knows what is happening to these skilled people after they go back to Saudi Arabia. It's like they totally disappear. Where are they? Why are they silent? Do they have jobs in Saudi?

Your mixing the intelligentsia with the political elite. You go around the world, the intelligentsia of every country/society will behave in the pleasant manner you had described. It's not exactly remarkable if you ask me.