Saudi general: 'If Netanyahu accepts the Arab Peace Initiative, we’ll open an embassy in Israel'

[jammersat]

This is a point of no return , if the saudis don't manage to get close to israel , you better know what happens

 

[Ceylal]

And given these warped attitudes Israelis are supposed to subscribe to the API and simply trust to the goodwill of Arabs?

You know this was an exceptional incident and that the Israelis themselves pursued the culprits. They did that out of Jews' own requirements for justice. What Arab society can claim to do the same against terrorists in their midst who do the same to non-Muslim minorities? Are Pakistanis and Muslim Arabs volunteering to fight ISIS, proclaiming their purpose is to help the Yezhidis regain their lands and homes?

More war p-rn, using existing prejudice to apply judgment to a single frame, without evaluating the whole movie.

We can't have a discussion with you, if you keep judging Israel actions thru peep hole...

 

[Solomon2]

We can't have a discussion with you, if you keep judging Israel actions thru peep hole...

I've done a pretty good job of pointing out the tunnel vision of anti-Zionists here. That doesn't mean I suffer the same faults - unless you can prove it. Failing that, the "peep hole" accusation can't stick, can it?

 

[jammersat]

Israel is a failed state , without US aid you won't last a second , and donald trump has hinted at cutting aid

 

[Indus Pakistan]

voiced

No I did not. We did not discuss politics. I reserved my thoughts. At least 10% of my year was Isreali's. Early 1990s.

Link > http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/international/coming-from/israel/

Should a student feel insulted when his teacher corrects him?

Yes, if the teacher feeds him/her mush.

 

[Solomon2]

Yes, if the teacher feeds him/her mush.

Or is it that the truth is different than you want it to be?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

The peace of the grave is all that's currently offered. When there's better Israel listens and acts, as it has with Jordan and Egypt and the Oslo Accords. Your statement has no merit.

I do not think anything Israel does can halt the mistreatment of Arab refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

I can't buy rubbish, either, and if you had voiced this to the Israelis you claim to have met they surely would have corrected you.

Should a student feel insulted when his teacher corrects him?

thanks for the counter narrative
seeing a hateful warmonger on the helm in Israel I don't expect anything but violence.
it was a bold statement by Saudis and for the sake of Israeli people .. for all its worth .. some low to mid level working group should have been established to start a formal discussion. the Governments of Jordan, Egypt & KSA don't mean any ill will towards Israel.. their guns are permanently aimed at Israeli common enemies.

I saw a chance there but it has been rubbished. only graves I see is that of displaced Arabs.. Israel has only expanded its territories and consolidated its positions so its vulnerability is a laughable myth.

 

[BDforever]

@Solomon2 you are amazing clueless guy lol

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Or is it that the truth is different than you want it to be?

Yes, indeed. I am jealous as we know you own the truth.

amazing clueless guy

Incorrect. He has his perspective.

 

[Solomon2]

thanks for the counter narrative
seeing a hateful warmonger on the helm in Israel I don't expect anything but violence.

Can you be more specific about wars Netanyahu has initiated or advocated as prime minister?

it was a bold statement by Saudis and for the sake of Israeli people .. for all its worth .. some low to mid level working group should have been established to start a formal discussion. the Governments of Jordan, Egypt & KSA don't mean any ill will towards Israel..

Governments pass. People don't. I'm not aware that any of these governments have worked to reduce the amount of rampant antisemitism and anti-Zionism in their populace - for example, by advocating that there is indeed a just place for Israel and Jews in their countries.

I saw a chance there but it has been rubbished. only graves I see is that of displaced Arabs.

What you "see" - what you are willing to see and acknowledge - is pretty limited, isn't it?

Israel has only expanded its territories -

That's pretty much a statement that you're wedded to myth, not reality. It is a kind of sickness.

 

[axisofevil]

Oh boy Israel must be so happy Saudi Arabia would consider building an embassy in Israel LOL. The benefits must be tremendous for Israel....LMAO

 

[Solomon2]

Yes, indeed. I am jealous as we know you own the truth.

Don't be jealous: there are members here who catch me in errors. @Paksanity did so yesterday, for example. I try to make sure to compliment and thank them when it happens.

To avoid jealousy and feelings of shame I think it's important not to invest one's pride in statements uttered, but in the strength of the facts, context, and arguments one can muster to support them.

 

[Archdemon]

And your not son? No offence intended to you but I could rip your argument to shreds - with reasoned logic. I make living out of presenting facts. So don't pull that "brainwashed" rubbish on me. I ain't a product of some Madaris like your not some product (hoping anyway) of some Kibbutizm school.

And I actually support recognition of Isreal. I also am for acceptance of the illegal "facts on the ground" that have been created since 1940s. So no I don't support destruction of Isreal. Don't start drying "Anti-Semitism. However accepting the facts as they are is one thing but spining "spiel" is another am. It sort of annoys me.

Fact: Isreal was illegitimate creation to solve a European problem. The Germans/Europeans did evil but Palestinians were asked to pay for those misdeeds. However in 2016 all that is past.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

That's pretty much a statement that you're wedded to myth, not reality. It is a kind of sickness.

unlawful settlements, occupation of Syrian land.. under whatever pretext and justification ... show only a one way tred which is increasing Israeli territory .. if this is sickness then correct me please .. and I don't need justification because I am not seeking one.

yes anti Semitism is high among Muslims which I cant defend and I am against it. if I am not mistaken .. a peaceful coexistence of Israel and its Arab neighbours has been time and again suggested but never caught traction because the power is tilted towards Israel and like I said... anyone who has power doesn't see any incentive to be giving.

moving on.. now correct me and/ or educate me..

was the creation of State of Israel a preplanned concept well before the Holocaust tragedy yes or no?
reason I ask is.. because I cant help but wonder that Arabs were made to pay for the crimes of Hitler.

might is right in the end. I think in an alternative universe .. (if there is one) German nazis must be justifying the extermination of impure races and the holocaust and their blowhards will be berating those who would mourn the Jewish genocide. the thing is .. my dear.. there is a tendency (which is free from time, race or religion) that the powerful never sees anything wrong with his conduct.

since you rubbished my claim of Arab misery due to Israeli actions... i
just at our own expense let me share with you something
in a talk show when the host pointed at the suffering of common Pakistanis and the slow demise of lower middle class towards below poverty... the politician lady from a very powerful family rubbished the claim saying she has seen these commoners who sell rags on the street talking on mobile phones. how or why do they have mobile phones if they are so poor? her question just left everyone speechless .. she has a point doesn't she? ( yea

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I see humour is in short supply in Isreal. Glad I have contributed in giving you a laugh.