Saudi FM: Riyadh Will Develop Nuclear Arms if Iran Does

[jamal18]

They won't tolerate a nuclear Iran, but they will tolerate a nuclear Israel?

 

[Big Tank]

These Saudis can't even develop a shopkeeper without Yankee help.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

A strong possibility considering China developed nukes followed by India and Pakistan.

 

[FuturePAF]

Repeat that sentence with:

If US attacks Iran, Pakistan will remain neutral.

Stop threatening civil war on my country. Any war that includes Pakistan will be a world war. If anyone tells you otherwise, he is a kazzab

Why does Pakistan have to get involved in a War with or against Iran. We stayed out Iraq, Syria, Yemen. Supplying the Saudis with weapons we only made because we have an existential threat on our Eastern Border does not solve the problem. If anything, refusing to supply the Saudis will make them less likely to go to war.

Also I am not threatening civil war on Pakistan. Pakistan has a large Shia community; what do you think Pakistan supplying the Saudis against Iran would do internally. I was merely stating the Arab-Persian standoff is a Cold War, that is not likely to go to war, and it doesn't help Pakistan to actively join it, remember our decision not to join actively in Yemen.

 

[El Sidd]

Why does Pakistan have to get involved in a War with or against Iran. We stayed out Iraq, Syria, Yemen. Supplying the Saudis with weapons we only made because we have an existential threat on our Eastern Border does not solve the problem. If anything, refusing to supply the Saudis will make them less likely to go to war.

Also I am not threatening civil war on Pakistan. Pakistan has a large Shia community; what do you think Pakistan supplying the Saudis against Iran would do internally. I was merely stating the Arab-Persian standoff is a Cold War, that is not likely to go to war, and it doesn't help Pakistan to actively join it, remember our decision not to join actively in Yemen.

And i am saying Iran vs Saudi war is not sectarian.

 

[The SC]

but that wouldn't feed the global military industrial complex
the Saudis and Gulf Arabs recently signed nearly half a trillion dollar in arms deal. Nuclear weapons would be cheap levelers by contrast. just look at North Korea; and now everyone wants to talk peace, but if peace happens, then the military spending in relation to north korea will be cut. The Korean peninsula is not nearly as lucrative piggy bank to feed the western defense industries. At the end of the first Gulf war the first Bush said to the Saudis, he had large amount of unemployment in this state or that state, and that if the Saudis could spend on arms deals, that would be great. since then, the arms deals have been the link to pay for influence in the corridors of power. this influence is now being expressed with this bluff. He basically says he will buy these weapons from....you know where, unless someone takes care of the Iranians for him. hence the end of the Iran deal this week. remember that the bloated military spending in the west, where a lot of it is not defensive, is really a welfare program for all involved. the US military takes relatively physically fit individual if they have an IQ of at least 83; all of these people need to be paid for. otherwise it will be the chickens coming home to roost, just look at what happened due to the collapse of the economy in the former soviet union and eastern Europe. this is what's at stake for the west to keep getting the sweet sweet Arab money.

That is a $110 billion arms deal stretched over 10 year.. please get your facts right.. the other #300 billion is for the economy and investments.. there are many threads on the subject here on the forum ..or on the net..It is very clearly stated..
The sweet sweet money that comes to the US's arms industries flow from all over the world, Some are even much more than the Arab money..

 

[Falcon29]

Don't wait for Iran , start from now having a nuclear energy program which can be employed if needed for nuclear weaponry.

 

[The SC]

And i am saying Iran vs Saudi war is not sectarian.

And you are right.. because it will be a (God forbid.. but God is the omniscient.. and know better..) war against politicisation of Islam..

They won't tolerate a nuclear Iran, but they will tolerate a nuclear Israel?

There is always talk about freeing the ME from Nuclear weapons that is addressed in particular to Usrael..It nhas never tested nuclear warheads.. but it is alleged to have some.. while I believe it has the covert nuclear protection of the US and NATO..Just like Japan, Germany or SK..

 

[jamal18]

Why does Pakistan have to get involved in a War with or against Iran. We stayed out Iraq, Syria, Yemen. Supplying the Saudis with weapons we only made because we have an existential threat on our Eastern Border does not solve the problem. If anything, refusing to supply the Saudis will make them less likely to go to war.

Also I am not threatening civil war on Pakistan. Pakistan has a large Shia community; what do you think Pakistan supplying the Saudis against Iran would do internally. I was merely stating the Arab-Persian standoff is a Cold War, that is not likely to go to war, and it doesn't help Pakistan to actively join it, remember our decision not to join actively in Yemen.

Because we are next.

There is always talk about freeing the ME from Nuclear weapons that is addressed in particular to Usrael..It nhas never tested nuclear warheads.. but it is alleged to have some.. while I believe it has the covert nuclear protection of the US and NATO..Just like Japan, Germany or SK..

I love it how we all accept the narrative. Of course, the press and the politicians won't mention the fact that the Iranians were pushing for a nuclear free Middle east. Shame the US didn't want it.

 

[FuturePAF]

That is a $110 billion arms deal stretched over 10 year.. please get your facts right.. the other #300 billion is for the economy and investments.. there are many threads on the subject here on the forum ..or on the net..It is very clearly stated..
The sweet sweet money that comes to the US's arms industries flow from all over the world, Some are even much more than the Arab money..

OK fair point, a little hyperbole on my part, but the large arms deal and large commercial deals (at usually inflated prices) are to buy influence in the west. This at a time when the Saudi Budget is being cut. The break even price for Saudi on barrel of Oil is $88, while the current price is $68.

Because we are next.

Possibly. You are underestimating the damage to all participants a war with Iran would entail. Iran is no pushover. It has been preparing for war for nearly 40 years. The People of Iran may not like their government, but don't want to turn into Iraq or Syria.

$7 Trillion have been wasted on the wars over the the last 16 and 1/2 years. The west will try Cohersion and undermining the Regime in Tehran in all ways it can. If the Iranians stick with the Europeans, the Europeans Economic Interests will keep the mid-east standoff a Cold War.

If you Think Pakistan is next, then we have have no time to waste, and should focus on build up our internal Economy, Export Economy and then our military. Focusing on building up social harmony, and Human development, will keep our nation unified against foreign attack. In the years it will take to deal with Iran, Pakistan will be too prickly to deal with. Iraq was under 30 million people when invaded. Iran is already over 80 million. Pakistan has surpassed 200 million. Internal Political cohesion matter more when dealing with foreign threats.

 

[SALMAN F]

I thought he going to say if israel doesn't give it's nukes we are going to make our nukes?!

Also you need years if making nuclear bomb so you think if iran have them they are going to wait for you to have them??!

 

[The SC]

OK fair point, a little hyperbole on my part, but the large arms deal and large commercial deals (at usually inflated prices) are to buy influence in the west. This at a time when the Saudi Budget is being cut. The break even price for Saudi on barrel of Oil is $88, while the current price is $68.

$76 .. is the current price.. and going up..
Most arms deals in this world have political influence facet to them, this not exclusive.. and it includes KSA obviously.. the Budget is going good, no problems with that whatsoever.. The IMF has testified to it many times just in the two last years.. there are rumours here and there.. but inn reality Saudi economy is doing very well and still improving..
KSA can survive well on a $24 dollars a barrel ..this was stated by MBS and others before him..and it is quite true, since the extraction and exploitation of Oil in KSA is the cheapest in the world.. you can find out about these facts easily..if you look for them..

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

$76 .. is the current price.. and going up..
Most arms deals in this world have political influence facet to them, this not exclusive.. and it includes KSA obviously.. the Budget is going good, no problems with that whatsoever.. The IMF has testified to it many times just in the two last years.. there are rumours here and there.. but inn reality Saudi economy is doing very well and still improving..
KSA can survive well on a $24 dollars a barrel ..this was stated by MBS and others before him..and it is quite true, since the extraction and exploitation of Oil in KSA is the cheapest in the world.. you can find out about these facts easily..if you look for them..

Oil price? I ain't driving oil cars anymore. What are they going to earn? These days Tesla electric cars have costs competitive with oil cars and they have superior performance.

 

[The SC]

Oil price? I ain't driving oil cars anymore. What are they going to earn? These days Tesla electric cars have costs competitive with oil cars and they have superior performance.

Is that why Tesla is doing very bad lately.. Nope my friend.. the emphasis is being put on more efficient gasoline engines..That is where most R&D is for now..

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Is that why Tesla is doing very bad lately.. Nope my friend.. the emphasis is being put on more efficient gasoline engines..That is where most R&D is for now..

Oil is not sustainable. It is a traded commodity. Its price is not determined by market supply and demand, but by traders. CO2 is also on an unsustainable path. Oil's days are numbered.