Saudi Arabia's Supreme Court ends flogging as punishment

[Kailash Kumar]

Saudi Arabia's Supreme Court ends flogging as punishment

Sommer Brokaw

APRIL 25, 2020

The General Assembly of Saudi Arabia's Supreme Court has decided to end flogging as punishment in disciplinary cases.

The Supreme Court has directed the lower courts to limit the punishments instead to imprisonment or fines, according to a document cited by Al Arabiya English news website.

Beating of the human body with whips or sticks has been used along with prison terms in several disciplinary cases in the country, including offenses such as theft, forgery, defamation, slander, public intoxication and harassment.

The directive says that the change is a part of the kingdom's human rights reforms.

Flogging in Saudi Arabia came under in 2012 when blogger Raif Badawi was sentenced to 1,000 lashes and 10 years in prison after being arrested in 2012 for cybercrime and insulting Islam through his website The Liberal Saudi Network. Badawi received the first round of 50 lashes in January and was scheduled to receive the remaining 950 lashes in increments of 50.

The second round of lashes was postponed "for medical reasons," according to Amnesty International.

The country "faced unprecedented international criticism," last year for its record on human rights, according to Human Rights Watch. Among the stains on its record, was lack of accountability for the slaying of Saudi journalist and Washington Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi in October 2018.

Saudi Arabia also carried out a record 184 executions in 2019, including 84 for non-violent drug crimes, while capital punishment generally declined in the rest of the world.

The country has continued its military campaign against Houthi rebels in Yemen through 2019, which has resulted in about 90 unlawful airstrikes and killing and injuring of thousands of civilians since it began.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-...gging-as-punishment/7771587821501/?sl=1&ur3=1

 

[bsruzm]

Chainsaw is the new trend lol

 

[Azadkashmir]

Chainsaw is the new trend lol

chainsaw require oil so as long as saudi have oil they can kill many kashoggis.

 

[BATMAN]

chainsaw require oil so as long as saudi have oil they can kill many kashoggis.

Journalist who received death threats after uncovering local corruption found strangled in canal

 

[Salmanov]

This is ridiculous that KSA is become liberal day by day

 

[The SC]

chainsaw require oil so as long as saudi have oil they can kill many kashoggis.

We don't even know if he was killed..But we know he has disappeared..

 

[Salmanov]

Chainsaw is the new trend lol

No they should use the ottoman impalement instead

 

[Azadkashmir]

Saudis should industrialize the whip

 

[bsruzm]

No they should use the ottoman impalement instead

Ottoman Empire is gone, now back to reality.

 

[Timur]

I am dissapointed... or is it because nowadays ool like to be whipped

 

[Morpheus]

We don't even know if he was killed..But we know he has disappeared..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1053428352164548609

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Shariah or no shariah, flogging for certain crimes isn't a bad thing I would say. Some pricks really need a stern punishment and humiliation. Antisocial behaviour is probably zero currently - expect that to change now unfortunately.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

This is ridiculous that KSA is become liberal day by day

It is a part of the ongoing judicial and general reforms in KSA. I welcome it as flogging as a punishment in KSA was more symbolic than anything else. However now that KSA is opening up and investing in tourism in a serious and dedicated manner (already in the top 15 of most visited countries in the world and with ample potential to reach the top 10) and reforming in general, it is bad PR for most of the snowflakes/liberals/all types of punishments are a crime type of crowd in the world, in particular in the West. Similar to how many executions in KSA now being performed by a shooting squad rather than the more humane but more "dangerous/scary/controversial" decapitation by a sword. That and the 2-3 Afro-Arab hereditary "executioner families" (their new generations/offspring) losing interest in that profession.


Anyway more obsession about KSA's internal judiciary laws as usual even though KSA has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, nowhere near close to the highest number of executions on an annual basis (184 people in a nation of 35 million - the horror) nor was flagellation in KSA ever used as anything more than a humiliation type of punishment rather than as a punishment that was/is intended to cause grave or serious physical harm. When somebody farts in KSA it becomes world news. Nothing new, either.

Lashing an Iranian for desecrating the Holy Mosque in Madinah, Saudi Arabia by urinating inside the mosque.​

A long list of countries from Europe, the Americas, Africa to Asia have been using flag (in its severe form unlike in KSA in the past) and are still using it today.

In countries like Singapore and Malaysia it is a legacy of the British and was/is much more serious.

No need to mention the likes of Iran either and many majority Muslim nations.

Chainsaw is the new trend lol

I suggest that you rather worry about Erdogan/Turkey jailing the highest number of journalists in the world rather than beating a dead horse. I also suggest to deal with your obsession, it is getting out of hand. You are worse than even the worst Iranian Wilayat al-Faqih regime worshipper on PDF to date.

Is there a way to give this guy some medication or help on PDF for him not to flood every KSA/Arab-related thread on PDF with his one-liners and trolling?

@Slav Defence kindly take a look at his recent user history. I can see, in thread where I have been tagged, that 2-3 users have already told him exactly the same.

Shariah or no shariah, flogging for certain crimes isn't a bad thing I would say. Some pricks really need a stern punishment and humiliation. Antisocial behaviour is probably zero currently - expect that to change now unfortunately.

70% of KSA's population is below 30 years of age (one of the youngest populations in the world) and a large portion of those have adopted a liberal stance in terms of punishments and other walks of life. Half of the population (women) are probably in favor of abolishing capital punishment as well.

KSA is reaching the liberal/post patriarchal/traditional state that some Western states reached (in Western Europe) starting in the late 1960's and 1970's. Just in a different manner and context. With the increasing globalization etc. and people being familiar with what Western propaganda can do in terms of PR damage (all kind of ridiculous notions about KSA) and people prefer to get away with such laws.

I am in principle not against the removal of flogging as a punishment but I know where this is going to go next - more liberalization etc. It is an inevitable development seen across the entire world but down the road I suspect that there will be a backlash if things go too far as they have in the West in recent decades.

Anyway what matters to me is that the low crime levels continue and the judicial system improves and ensures the rights for everyone involved in a criminal case. KSA has its struggles there like any country but things are moving in the right direction. As the older generation of judges dies/retires, new generations (with different views) will take over (that process has already begun) which will create a further liberalization of the criminal judiciary in KSA. Although I am fairly sure that the capital punishment will remain for the foreseeable future as well as tough laws on drugs, murder, terrorism, armed robbery, rape, violence, attempted murder and other serious crimes.

That and political reforms and a gradual transformation into a constitutional monarchy.

 

[Safriz]

In USA children can marry with parental consent. Death sentence is still legal.
They are not ashamed of any of that because that's how they want their country to be.
Poor Muslim countries are changing everything to appease non Muslims and to please them, but still getting insulted.
Good luck with that.

 

[The SC]

Saudis should industrialize the whip

HaHa..
Too late..no more whip..