SAUDI ARABIA'S COSTLY AND UNPRODUCTIVE ARMS RACE VS IRAN

[Arabian Stallion]

The only vulnerable Iranian site is Bandar Abbes.. The the Iranian territory is of reach for KSA and its Islamic Nato.



Fu-ck you tipana boy, I am not your patsy and for me you are just an insignificant tick and my best for the eid for you and your family...

I feel sad for you. You basically demonstrated my point for all to see. Not only my point but the point that most users on this section share. Not only this section by the way.

Look, I can get ugly as well (everyone knows this here) but as I said, I am not going to waste my time on such kind of discussions. Lastly you have too high thoughts about yourself. I can assure you that everyone else shares the exact same opinion when it comes to your presence here. However there is no point stating the obvious.

Just cut the nonsense out. As for the rest, I do not care.

 

[Ceylal]

I suggest that you find another hobby as it is getting tiring my friend. Growing up a bit would help as well. You are welcome to engage with me and others here as long as the discussions are serious.

You are talking to a Berber, tipana boy..Better tone down you morality lesson or I'll shave my barb up your camelidae behind. I am not your patsy you can lecture and this forum is not a souk for your camels.

An early eid mubarak to you.

And to you to and your loved ones

 

[Arabian Stallion]

You are talking to a Berber, tipana boy..Better tone down you morality lesson or I'll shave my barb up your camelidae behind. I am not your patsy you can lecture and this forum is not a souk for your camels.


And to you to and your loved ones

You did not get the point did you?

You are 1 out of the 30 million or so Berbers. Is it a typical Berber trait to act like a warm balloon and act big in front of a computer screen? Aside from acting like a 13 year old? That's certainly not the trait of those few Berbers that I know in person. So it must be a personal trait of yours.

Yes, a Berber, whose original homeland is the Sahara Desert. Camels? What are you blabbering about?
Have you seen my avatar? That is an Arabian Horse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_horse

The most famous, majestic, widespread and expensive horse in the world. It was for millennia what the Ferrari has been in the past 60 years. That same horse conquered your ancestral lands and changed them forever. Remember? I know that you have not forgot that. Nobody of your kind has. Besides I am not sure why I am discussing such nonsense topics with you as you have Arab blood like most Maghrebis (Arab-Berber mixtures mostly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab-Berber

and besides of that Arabs and Berbers are RELATED people genetically, historically and even linguistically. I don't know if there are any universities from where you are from but those are well-known academic facts.

As for my homeland, google HIJAZ. It is to the Arab world what the French Rivera is to Europe in terms of landscapes (mountains, fertile lands, sea).

You see your imaginary "anti-Berber phobia" is something that you have created and if you are a victim of this you have only yourself to thank for as no other national of yours has caused any trouble, rather the contrary, relations have always been great. Just like they are in real life. I have absolutely nothing against Berbers who are a related people of Arabs and who we share most things in common with. Rather the contrary. However I am against trolls/idiots of ANY ethnicity whether they are Papuans or Eskimos. Got it?

And to yours as well.

 

[Ceylal]

I feel sad for you. You basically demonstrated my point for all to see. Not only my point but the point that most users on this section share. Not only this section by the way.

I like to vomit, everytime I see you writing about the grandeur of the Saud family and of Saudi Arabia after all what they are doing to the muslim world and to your citizens! Even as an educated men ( at least I think you are , as the many school you went to, if you are not a false flagger and a liar like the many account you created), you are still posting about a country that functions because of migrants and from overseas expert, as if it was heaven! it is sickening that , and you are a sick individual that you believe that what comes out KSA, is God voice and action!Be true to yourself and then..only then I 'll give a thought and maybe the respect that any PDF deserve.

 

[Ceylal]

You did not get the point did you?

Let me tell you one truth that you can take it your grave, about the people I belong to! .what you see is what get! We have a good heart, a good upbringing, a stand up society until you cross us, than god help you...And if you want to see the real me, all you have to do ask me to meet you...the next time you are in Europe or the US...
By the way, Wikipedia is not a source!

And you tried to derail this thread...And you succeeded..Is not about me and you..Its about KSA and her imaginative foe..IRAN..
Saha 3idek! and fuc-k you!

 

[The SC]

The title of the thread is misleading, yes it is true that the Saudi defense budget is very big , still it is far from being unproductive, it is for El haramein defence, so even if it was double or triple that it is worth it..

Berbers have a Yemeni descent, they are called Amazigh in North Africa and they came from an Area in Yemen called Amazight ! hence, very related to Arabs, they were mainly Pagans, christians and Jews, before the Islamic Foutouhat..some tribes have given the Arab muslims a hard time, but most tribes accepted Islam wholeheartedly..

 

[SOHEIL]

Well you are exchanging opinions and views with individuals that ignore everything about their own country.
A war with Iran will be devastating to Saudi Arabia.

I just enjoying their opinions !!!

 

[Arabian Stallion]

Let me tell you one truth that you can take it your grave, about the people I belong to! .what you see is what get! We have a good heart, a good upbringing, a stand up society until you cross us, than god help you...And if you want to see the real me, all you have to do ask me to meet you...the next time you are in Europe or the US...
By the way, Wikipedia is not a source!

And you tried to derail this thread...And you succeeded..Is not about me and you..Its about KSA and her imaginative foe..IRAN..
Saha 3idek! and fuc-k you!

Ceylal, for the love of God, please grow up. I know that you are better than this. As for the traits that you describe, they are mostly universal across the Arab world. As for meeting, I would have no problem with that and we could arrange a meeting whenever/if you ever visit KSA, the GCC or Europe (France, UK etc.).

Look, it's Ramadan and besides of that, as I already wrote, the key here should be to have constructive debates despite political disagreements which at the end of the day matter little as it is mostly about a choice between 2 or more examples of shinny manure. I hope that you get the point here.

I like to vomit, everytime I see you writing about the grandeur of the Saud family and of Saudi Arabia after all what they are doing to the muslim world and to your citizens! Even as an educated men ( at least I think you are , as the many school you went to, if you are not a false flagger and a liar like the many account you created), you are still posting about a country that functions because of migrants and from overseas expert, as if it was heaven! it is sickening that , and you are a sick individual that you believe that what comes out KSA, is God voice and action!Be true to yourself and then..only then I 'll give a thought and maybe the respect that any PDF deserve.

You have clearly never read any of my posts but only read what you would LIKE me to write. Such nonsense posts really do not deserve any serious reply, Ceylal. When will you grow up? As for respect, I do not need your respect or that of anyone here, but I of course would prefer serious discussions to take place rather than wasting my time. I am sure that you feel similarly and if not forums and personal exchanges are not for you.

The title of the thread is misleading, yes it is true that the Saudi defense budget is very big , still it is far from being unproductive, it is for El haramein defence, so even if it was double or triple that it is worth it..

Berbers have a Yemeni descent, they are called Amazigh in North Africa and they came from an Area in Yemen called Amazight ! hence, very related to Arabs, they were mainly Pagans, christians and Jews, before the Islamic Foutouhat..some tribes have given the Arab muslims a hard time, but most tribes accepted Islam wholeheartedly..

Definitely. Arabs and Berbers are closely related people historically, genetically, culturally and linguistically. Aside from the fact that most Maghrebis are Arab-Berber mixtures which is widely known. There are no problems between Arabs and Berbers WHATSOEVER in real life let alone on PDF. It's just something that Ceylal is imagining due to his history on PDF. What he does not know is that our grievances have nothing to do with his ethnicity, country or anything else but rather the nature of SOME of his posts. For instance when he attacks Egyptians, Iraqis, Saudi Arabians, Jordanians, Moroccans and others on this forum as a people and not individuals on PDF. That's all.

@SOHEIL , Farsi troll, kindly return to your Mullah infested section. Your presence here is unwanted. In particular your moronic one-liners. You should know about what happens with your country and people when you are at war with Arabs. You generally lose badly. Iran is a dwarf on all fronts (economy, military, population size etc.) compared to the Arab world let alone the GCC. It's a gigantic joke to even talk about a war with your kind. Stick to using Hazara Afghans as cannon fodder and military hoaxes, ancient reverse engineering and making hilarious creations while using Microsoft Paint. That's what you best amount to.

You should always remember (which I am sure that you and your likes do) who destroyed you and changed you on almost every front (culturally, religiously, linguistically and even genetically) forever. It has lasted for 1400 years now. Don't force us to do such a thing again. Besides we all saw what a 3.5 times smaller and 2.5 times less populous Iraq (1 out of over 20 Arab countries) did to you not that long ago.

@Full Moon @alarabi

 

[SOHEIL]

@SOHEIL , Farsi troll, kindly return to your Mullah infested section. Your presence here is unwanted. In particular your moronic one-liners. You should know whatever happens with your country and people when you are at war with Arabs. You generally lose badly.

You scared me

Friendly advice... Such a bullshit never works on Iranians !

 

[Aramagedon]

Ceylal, for the love of God, please grow up. I know that you are better than this. As for the traits that you describe, they are mostly universal across the Arab world. As for meeting, I would have no problem with that and we could arrange a meeting whenever/if you ever visit KSA, the GCC or Europe (France, UK etc.).

Look, it's Ramadan and besides of that, as I already wrote, the key here should be to have constructive debates despite political disagreements which at the end of the day matter little as it is mostly about a choice between 2 or more examples of shinny manure. I hope that you get the point here.



You have clearly never read any of my posts but only read what you would LIKE me to write. Such nonsense posts really do not deserve any serious reply, Ceylal. When will you grow up? As for respect, I do not need your respect or that of anyone here, but I of course would prefer serious discussions to take place rather than wasting my time. I am sure that you feel similarly and if not forums and personal exchanges are not for you.



Definitely. Arabs and Berbers are closely related people historically, genetically, culturally and linguistically. Aside from the fact that most Maghrebis are Arab-Berber mixtures which is widely known. There are no problems between Arabs and Berbers WHATSOEVER in real life let alone on PDF. It's just something that Ceylal is imagining due to his history on PDF. What he does not know is that our grievances have nothing to do with his ethnicity, country or anything else but rather the nature of SOME of his posts. For instance when he attacks Egyptians, Iraqis, Saudi Arabians, Jordanians, Moroccans and others on this forum as a people and not individuals on PDF. That's all.

@SOHEIL , Farsi troll, kindly return to your Mullah infested section. Your presence here is unwanted. In particular your moronic one-liners. You should know about what happens with your country and people when you are at war with Arabs. You generally lose badly. Iran is a dwarf on all fronts (economy, military, population size etc.) compared to the Arab world let alone the GCC. It's a gigantic joke to even talk about a war with your kind. Stick to using Hazara Afghans as cannon fodder and military hoaxes, ancient reverse engineering and making hilarious creations while using Microsoft Paint. That's what you best amount to.

You should always remember (which I am sure that you and your likes do) who destroyed you and changed you on almost every front (culturally, religiously, linguistically and even genetically) forever. It has lasted for 1400 years now. Don't force us to do such a thing again. Besides we all saw what a 3.5 times smaller and 2.5 times less populous Iraq (1 out of over 20 Arab countries) did to you not that long ago.

@Full Moon @alarabi

So 1.8 billion Muslims are followers of you sand dwellers???

Idiot wahhabi, 'GOD' is not arab. he just revealed a prophet to idol worshipper arabs.

" Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but is God's Messenger and the seal of the Prophets. God has knowledge of all things. " Quran {33:40}

'Quran is speech of Allah' and not idol worshipper arabs or even Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).


You fools have own no glory. you ' martyred ' 'prophet's family' after his demise.

Allah only wishes to remove uncleanness from you members of the (Prophet Muhammad) family and to purify you completely. Quran {33:33}

That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward from you but love for my close relatives. Quran {42:23}

God chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of Imran above all His creatures. {3:33}


'You goons' are not representative of real Muslims.

About Sasanians. Firstly Iranians kicked you out after 70 years and put Abbasids in power. Your Umayyad thug army crushed by Iranians.

Secondly Sasanians had fought with Romans for centuries, otherwise they would play football with you coward guys instead of wasting their swoards.

Know your place lazy coward tazi.


Meanwhile If it wasn't because of British you cowards would rule by Turks right now. Your soldiers train by Pakistanis, your weapons are ALL american and british. You cowards borrow soldiers from poor African countries, you even import mineral water from foreign countries, you import camels from Somalia, you import 95% of your fruits from European countries. hehehe you soodis are too strong...

PS. if it wasn't ' oil ' your country would be poorer than most of African countries.

@SALMAN AL-FARSI @Malik Alashter @f1000n

 

[Arabian Stallion]

So 1.8 billion Muslims are following you sand dwellers???

Idiot wahhabi, 'GOD' is not arab. he just revealed a prophet to idol worshipper arabs.

" Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but is God's Messenger and the seal of the Prophets. God has knowledge of all things. " Quran {33:40}

'Quran is speech of Allah' and not idol worshipper arabs or even holy prophet (PBUH).


You fools have own no glory. you ' martyred ' prophet's family after his demise.

Allah only wishes to remove uncleanness from you members of the (Prophet Muhammad) family and to purify you completely. Quran {33:33}

That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward from you but love for my close relatives. Quran {42:23}

God chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of Imran above all His creatures. {3:33}


'You thugs' are not representative of real Muslims.

Also Sasanians. Firstly Iranians kicked you out after 70 years and put Abbasids in power. Your Umayyad thug army crushed by Iranians.

Secondly Sasanians had fought with Romans for centuries otherwise they could play football with you coward guys instead wasting their swoards.

The truth hurts and it is visible for the entire world.

Arab Muslims conquered your evil and oppressive rule (destroyed it forever) and changed your entity forever religiously, culturally, linguistically and genetically. Your evil and oppressive rule copied almost everything from much older Semitic civilizations in the Arab world and Empires such as the Assyrian and Babylonian ones. Your influence was non-existent.

Arabs created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history. More than any other people in the top 15. Arabs ruled the MENA region and most of the Muslim world for almost 1000 years (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid Caliphates).

You are a dwarf historically, militarily, economically and population wise compared to the Arab world. Small UAE and Qatar combined have a bigger economy. Do not make any comparisons as we consider it a joke and an insult to us.

Now stop trolling in this section ajami kawli (using your kind of insults) and control your idiotic troll compatriots so they do not visit this section for trolling or meddle in Arab affairs by trolling. Something you are addicted to as well sometimes, unfortunately. This way there will be no hostility or trouble.

Arabs in pre-Islamic times believed in ancient pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions, were Hanifs (monotheists), Christians or Jews. All religions native to the Arab world and Arabia. In fact there were even a small minority of fire worshippers in Eastern Arabia.

As for Islam and Muslims all Muslim sects including Sufism originates in what is today KSA and the Arab world. Even your Wilayat al-Faqih was created by Shia Arabs in Lebanon.

@2800 It is Ramadan so I will not engage in additional trolling but know one thing that as long as you insult or troll Arabs, I can and will (if forced to) make life very difficult for you and reply tenfold. Do not troll or insult Arabs. As long as that happens we will not care. However since you are obsessive this is very hard for you not to do.

@2800 you are writing complete and utter nonsense and why are you tagging two Iraqi Arabs? They might dislike the regime of KSA (most Arabs dislike all Arab and Muslim regimes) but they are still fellow Arabs who have nothing against the holy land let alone Saudi Arabians who they share almost everything with especially people of Southern Iraq which both are from. Besides they have very good personal ties with me.

I have only a problem with anti-Arab Iranians like you. As for normal Iranians (Shia or Sunni) they are people like any other and we Arabs have no hostility towards them. Only those of them who hate the 450 million Arabs who are no doubt great people with an ancient history that the whole world knows about and admires.

@alarabi @Full Moon

 

[Aramagedon]

The truth hurts and it is visible for the entire world.

Arab Muslims conquered your evil and oppressive rule (destroyed it forever) and changed your entity forever religiously, culturally, linguistically and genetically. Your evil and oppressive rule copied almost everything from much older Semitic civilizations in the Arab world and Empires such as the Assyrian and Babylonian ones. Your influence was non-existent.

Arabs created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history. More than any other people in the top 15. Arabs ruled the MENA region and most of the Muslim world for almost 1000 years (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid Caliphates).

You are a dwarf historically, militarily, economically and population wise compared to the Arab world. Small UAE and Qatar combined have a bigger economy. Do not make any comparisons as we consider it a joke and an insult to us.

Now get lost from this section ajami kawli and control your idiotic troll compatriots so they do not visit this section or meddle in Arab affairs. Something you are addicted to as well. This way there will be no communication and thus no trouble.

Arabs in pre-Islamic times believed in ancient pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions, were Hanifs (monotheists), Christians or Jews, cretin. All religions native to the Arab world and Arabia. In fact there were even a small minority of fire worshippers in Eastern Arabia.

As for Islam and Muslims all Muslim sects including Sufism originates in what is today KSA and the Arab world. Even your Wilayat al-Faqih was created by Shia Arabs in Lebanon.

@2800 It is Ramadan so I will not engage in additional trolling but know one thing that as long as you insult or troll Arabs, I can and will (if forced to) make life very difficult for you and reply tenfold. Do not troll or insult Arabs. As long as that happens we will not care. However since you are obsessive this is very hard for you not to do.

@2800 you are writing complete and utter nonsense and why are you tagging two Iraqi Arabs? They might dislike the regime of KSA (most Arabs dislike all Arab and Muslim regimes) but they are still fellow Arabs who have nothing against the holy land let alone Saudi Arabians who they share almost everything with especially people of Southern Iraq which both are from. Besides they have very good personal ties with me.

I have only a problem with anti-Arab Iranians like you. As for normal Iranians (Shia or Sunni) they are people like any other and we Arabs have no hostility towards them. Only those of them who hate the 450 million Arabs who are no doubt great people with an ancient history that the whole world knows about and admires.

It is Ramadan right, but you insulted Iranians.

 

[Arabian Stallion]

You insulted Iranians.

Your compatriot was making heavy insults against Arabs here (his posts were deleted) despite no Arab making any insults towards Iran or him. He was trolling in this troll thread as well. I have not insulted Iranians in a single post until I replied to him and to your post here where you insulted Arabs again.

You are making troll threads against Arabs and in particular KSA here. I am not making any threads about Iran although I easily could.

I never attack any user, ethnicity, people or nation as long as they do not attack me. And even if they do I have become too old for trolling nowadays and it is also Ramadan.

I know that you hate Arabs (you have demonstrated this many times unfortunately) but at least keep this to yourself and let us instead have constructive discussions.

Anyway I am quite sure that you have never meet any Saudi Arabian let alone any Arab. Have you even visited areas of Iran were Iranian Arabs live? Doubtful.

As for your "Wahhabi" nonsense this is the same as calling you Rafidah or Wilayat al-Faqih followers besides you should know by now that only 33,33% of Saudi Arabians or so are Sunni Muslims following the Hanbali madhhab. Mainly in Najd. You engage too much in sectarianism here.

@2800 I already told you that I have no problem with you (although you seem a bit obsessed about me) but as long as you insult Arabs I will reply in a similar fashion. If you do not that we can easily have good ties here. No problem. It is your choice. You think that I hate Persians which is in your imagination. I could easily troll against Persians 24/7 here but I never do that unless attacked. This should tell you something here.

Besides I already told you that Arabs and Persians have many things in common, more than both people would admit, so this hostility is basically a nonsense hostility that is of a recent nature and due to regimes in power.

You do not know about this but in the GCC there are around 1 million (if not more) CITIZENS of Iranian Arab, Persian, Lur and Baloch origin who are citizens of Kuwait, KSA, Qatar, Oman and UAE. Today they have intermarried with locals and are part of the countries like any other. This is similar to how it is in many parts of Southern Iran due to ancient trade ties and intermarriages.

In KSA alone we have 300.000 citizens of Uzbek origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks#Uzbeks_in_Saudi_Arabia

A former major of Jeddah is named Farsi. There is even a Farsi Tower being built in Jeddah now.

There is also Farsi engineering in Hijaz which is named after a family who migrated to Hijaz from Iran or Tajikistan many centuries ago.

https://www.zakifarsigroup.com

Here is the former major of Jeddah named Farsi (surname)

http://www.themsff.org/dr-farsi/

 

[Aramagedon]

Your compatriot was making heavy insults against Arabs here (his posts were deleted) despite no Arab making any insults towards Iran or him. He was trolling in this troll thread as well. I have not insulted Iranians in a single post until I replied to him and to your post here where you insulted Arabs again.

You are making troll threads against Arabs and in particular KSA here. I am not making any threads about Iran although I easily could.

I never attack any user, ethnicity, people or nation as long as they do not attack me. And even if they do I have become too old for trolling nowadays and it is also Ramadan.

I know that you hate Arabs (you have demonstrated this many times unfortunately) but at least keep this to yourself and let us instead have constructive discussions.

Anyway I am quite sure that you have never meet any Saudi Arabian let alone any Arab. Have you even visited areas of Iran were Iranian Arabs live? Doubtful.

As for your "Wahhabi" nonsense this is the same as calling you Rafidah or Wilayat al-Faqih followers besides you should know by now that only 33,33% of Saudi Arabians or so are Sunni Muslims following the Hanbali madhhab. Mainly in Najd. You engage too much in sectarianism here.

Well I don't hate arabs, but I hate your brainwashed compatriots that hates Shiites.

I have visited many arabs in Mashhad and Qom. So many of them are Iraqi Shiites and even have settled in those cities and so many of arabs are from south of Iran. I have talked to them they are religious persons and don't like wahhabi terrorism in the region. They have really bad ideas about wahhabis.

Anyway I apologize for my harsh reply, but please don't repeat your stupid insults against Iranians and Shiites.

I have no problem with normal Shiite/Sunni Saudians.

Pal if you are normal, I have no problem with u.

I am going to breakfast.

 

[Arabian Stallion]

Well I don't hate arabs, but I hate your brainwashed compatriots that hates Shiites.

I have visited many arabs in Mashhad and Qom. So many of them are Iraqi Shiites and even have settled in those cities and so many of arabs are from south of Iran. I have talked to them they were are religious persons and don't like wahhabi terrorism in the region. They have really bad ideas about wahhabis.

Why are you not writing Arabs with a capital letter?

Look 15-20% of KSA's population is made up by Shias. In comparison there are almost no Shias in Morocco, West Sahara, Mauritania, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Palestine, Oman, Qatar, UAE, Syria etc. The only Arab countries with a sizable Shia community are Iraq, small but beautiful Lebanon (local population only 2 million big if we exclude the Palestinians and now Syrians), Bahrain (700.000 locals only), Kuwait (40% of the only 2 million or so locals), Yemen (Zaydi) and finally KSA. In terms of numbers there are only more Shias in Iraq and Yemen than in KSA of any country in the Arab world.

Shias in KSA have only been attacked 2-3 times in their history for the past 82 years. All by less than 10 ISIS lunatics. Despite KSA being situated in the middle of a very volatile region.

Also you forget that there is also a minority of people in Iran who hate Sunnis and that the regime in Iran is not always favorable to their Sunni communities. However it makes no sense to generalize.

Really? Then I do not understand why you insult Arabs as Iranian Arabs are famous for their hospitality in Iran. I have even watched reports about this and seen other Iranian users here say the same thing.

You should visit the Arab world one day you will not be seen as foreigner until you start speaking Farsi. There are many Iranian tourists in the GCC mainly UAE. Nobody bothers them. Have you ever heard about an Iranian tourist who was killed in any Arab country? You have totally wrong view of Arabs and especially KSA I am afraid.