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Saudi Arabia starts building futuristic linear city
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Saudi Arabia has started moving earth and tunneling through mountains to build a futuristic linear city that officials hope will host its first residents in 2024, the project’s CEO Nadhmi Al-Nasr said, Report informs via Bloomberg.

Employees are still developing regional master plans and a “founding law” for the mega-project called Neom, Nadhmi Al-Nasr said. But they’ve already started early infrastructure work on its main feature — a 170-kilometer long car-free city called “The Line” that could begin welcoming inhabitants and tourists as early as the
first quarter of 2024, he said.

“It’s a huge undertaking,” Al-Nasr said in an interview with Bloomberg TV, estimating that “not even 1%” of the work needed to plan and build the linear city is complete. “Today, if you go to Neom, you will see construction all over, you will see earthworks going on all over, you will see regions that are being developed,” he said.

Announced in 2017, Neom is the crown jewel of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s program to overhaul the economy of the world’s largest oil exporter. His plans to turn the remote region on the kingdom’s northwest Red Sea coast into a futuristic tech hub encapsulate the major elements of his so-called “Vision 2030” to diversify away from crude, loosen social restrictions and boost investment.



Impressive and China can help!
 
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Impressive and China can help!

Chinese construction companies are no.1 in the world currently and take biggest share in Africa but you won't guess who is China's biggest competitor in the African construction projects competition? that also sits on the second place with second most construction projects? Turkey? That is right you wouldn't ever guess them being a competitior in the African construction arena with China and even I was surprised when I found out about this. Example China is working with the Sisi government in Egypt build a whopping 40 new cities all these are under construction alot of people are questioning where the egyptians got all this money from recently but could be from Libya since Hafter is an Egyptian puppet because it is unprecedented and doesn't make sense otherwise.. But aside from that I think few Chinese companies have won contracts in Neom all tho not largely represented like they are in Egypt where it is exclusively Chinese-Egyptians construction companies.

There is alot of competition in the construction world but their news doesn't get reported here because it is not a construction forum but if you go to the construction forums you will realize it is a big world with alot of competition going on both on the local and international level
 
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A very good project, would help obtain new green technologies. For a car free city, it should not have been linear though.
 
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Chinese construction companies are no.1 in the world currently and take biggest share in Africa but you won't guess who is China's biggest competitor in the African construction projects competition? that also sits on the second place with second most construction projects? Turkey? That is right you wouldn't ever guess them being a competitior in the African construction arena with China and even I was surprised when I found out about this. Example China is working with the Sisi government in Egypt build a whopping 40 new cities all these are under construction alot of people are questioning where the egyptians got all this money from recently but could be from Libya since Hafter is an Egyptian puppet because it is unprecedented and doesn't make sense otherwise.. But aside from that I think few Chinese companies have won contracts in Neom all tho not largely represented like they are in Egypt where it is exclusively Chinese-Egyptians construction companies.

There is alot of competition in the construction world but their news doesn't get reported here because it is not a construction forum but if you go to the construction forums you will realize it is a big world with alot of competition going on both on the local and international level
Wow that's interesting, have been watching global EPC business news but rarely come across any Turkish company. Thanks for updating bro it's always good to know more about latest competitive landscape!

1. China State Construction & Engineering (China)
2. China Railway Group (China)
3. China Railway Construction Corporation (China)
4. China Communications Construction (China)
5. Vinci (France)
6. Metallurgical Corporation of China (China)
7. ACS (Spain)
8. Bouygues’ Construction Division (France)
9. Shanghai Construction Group (China)
10. Hochtief (Germany)
 
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Wow that's interesting, have been watching global EPC business news but rarely come across any Turkish company. Anyway thanks for updating bro!

1. China State Construction & Engineering (China)
2. China Railway Group (China)
3. China Railway Construction Corporation (China)
4. China Communications Construction (China)
5. Vinci (France)
6. Metallurgical Corporation of China (China)
7. ACS (Spain)
8. Bouygues’ Construction Division (France)
9. Shanghai Construction Group (China)
10. Hochtief (Germany)

Majority of the listed biggest construction companies are local hence they have no reason to go overseas but it is these pushed out from the local arena that compete on the International but it doesn't mean they are lesser than the local based companies.

Africa is where most competition takes places because it is the most less developed continent aside from india ofcourse which surprisingly lacks behind Africa no pun intended there.

But yeah China's only competitor in AFRICA is Turkey whereas the US or any other western element is not present it is only China and Turkey going at it everyone else is pushed out.. It is entirely business oriented rivalry

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Turkey jockeys with China for influence in Africa

Much has been written in recent years on China's growing influence in Africa. But it has a challenger in Turkey, which, like China, is looking to expand its strategic and economic reach.

Turkish construction companies have recently bested Chinese rivals on big infrastructure projects, winning orders in Ethiopia and Rwanda. And Ankara has nearly as many embassies on the continent as Beijing.

Turkey, sitting astride Europe and Asia, will play an important role in the Belt and Road Initiative, which China hopes will forge stronger economic links between the two continents. Turkey has good relations with the emerging superpower, but that has not stopped it from competing vigorously with China in Africa.


Yapi Merkezi, a big Turkish construction company, has been building a 400km railway line in the Horn of Africa nation of Ethiopia since January 2015. The project "will change people's lives and contribute greatly to the fast-track development of Ethiopia," said Mustafa Ay, Yapi's deputy project manager in mid-February, as he stood in front of a bridge in the northern city of Kombolcha.


Strategic Implications of Sino-Turkish Rivalry in Africa
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International Developments
Sun، 10 Oct ، 2021


The strategic importance of Africa places it at the crossroads of international competition over assets, economic gain, and influence. Among the competitors, China and Turkey are significant actors, and their competition in Africa has implications that extend to the Arab world. The Sino-Turkish competition in Africa stems from each country’s efforts to expand its economic and strategic influence, and takes place on many levels, including the following:

  1. Access to natural resources: Africa’s importance stems from its position as the world’s reservoir of strategic natural resources and raw materials that are in high demand, in light of the intense competition between major consuming countries for these resources. This competition is intensified by increasing global demand, while global reserves and production rates are decreasing in other parts of the world.
Turkey and China are both seeking to gain a large share of these resources. China is particularly interested in the acquisition of oil, gas, uranium, gold, and diamonds. China receives 9% of sub-Saharan Africa’s oil, while 30% goes to Europe. Energy imports are also of essential importance to Turkey, amounting to more than 41.1 billion dollars in 2019. Turkey is the second largest importer of gas after China, importing more than 95% of its needs. Therefore, it is looking to Africa to secure this strategic need for energy materials through the investments of Turkish oil companies.

  1. Increasing economic presence: Both Turkey and China wish to gain access to the vast African market, to increase the volume of their trade and investments in the continent. Turkish companies undertook 1,500 projects worth nearly USD 70 billion in Africa as of the end of 2019. Turkey also signed trade and economic cooperation agreements with more than 49 African countries, agreements to stimulate and protect joint investments with 28 countries, and agreements to avoid double taxation with 12 African countries.

    China, on the other hand, is the largest investor in Africa, according to World Bank reports. Chinese investments in the continent amount to nearly USD 15 billion in various sectors, and it also started building subsidiary factories on African soil with the aim of conquering African markets and benefiting from cheap African labor.

    The Maghreb region is currently the focus of Sino-Turkish competition, with the volume of Turkish investments in the region rising to USD 25.3 billion in 2020. Turkey also signed a partnership agreement with Tunisia, a trade agreement with Morocco, and a friendship agreement with Algeria, which helped boost Turkish products in the region.

    China, on its part, has strengthened its economic and soft power in Africa through the Belt and Road initiative, establishing comprehensive strategic partnerships with Algeria and Egypt, and a strategic partnership with Morocco. These partnerships include dozens of memoranda of understanding and promises of major infrastructure and development projects. It is also worth noting that China signed memoranda of understanding on the “Belt and Road” initiative with Libya and Tunisia, but has not established a formal partnership with either country.

    In terms of the size and scope of projects in Africa, Turkey is no match for China. According to the ranking of the top 250 international contractors in the Engineering News Registry based on revenues generated abroad, Turkish contractors ranked third with 40 companies in 2020, while China ranked first with 78 companies. Although the falling value of the lira, and economic contraction which accompanied the COVID-19 pandemic, represent obstacles to further Turkish expansion, Turkey currently seeks to ally with Japan to undermine Chinese influence in Africa. Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) opened a regional office in Istanbul in 2020 as part of these efforts, and Turkish company Çalik Enerji, in which Japanese trading company Mitsubishi Corporation has a stake, recently completed the expansion of a small hydropower plant in the southeastern African Republic of Malawi with funding from the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA).
  2. Strategic advantage: Turkey and China’s competition is also apparent in their pursuit to position themselves in areas of strategic importance on the continent. China concluded a deal with the Djibouti to buy a share of the strategic Port of Djibouti. The port is strategically located overlooking the Indian Ocean and the southern entrance to the Red Sea, where the Bab al-Mandab strait is an important corridor for global trade, and for any military movements coming from Europe or the United States towards the Arabian Gulf and East Africa.

    Turkey illustrated the strategic importance of Africa by stating in its maritime strategy, issued in 2014, that the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden will act as the main link between Turkey, the eastern Mediterranean, and the Indian Ocean. Accordingly, Turkey signed an agreement with Djibouti in 2017 stipulating the establishment of a 12-million-square-meter free trade zone. Turkey also has an agreement with Sudan to develop and manage the island of Suakin overlooking the Red Sea, giving Turkey an important strategic advantage that will enable it to expand its presence within Africa.
  3. Political goals: Turkey and China’s efforts to gain further footing in Africa are partially driven by political motives. Turkey’s goal of regional expansion across the continent is part and parcel of its aim to revive neo-Ottomanism, especially in light of its failures on the European front and failure to join the European Union. Moreover, it seeks to strengthen its position in the regional equation in the Middle East through expanding its presence and influence in Africa . China’s desire to establish a multipolar international system drives it to enhance its relations with developing countries, particularly in Africa, in order to present itself as their leader on the international stage. China also relies on the big voting bloc of African countries to change a number of agreements with the United States, especially those related to intellectual property. Furthermore, China seeks to isolate Taiwan, and prevent India from obtaining a permanent seat on the Security Council.
Impact on the Arab world

Sino-Turkish competition in Africa can have an impact on the Arab region in a number of ways, including:

  1. Increasing Turkish influence on Arab issues: Ankara could strive to improve its relations with the United States and NATO, which has recently deteriorated, by helping to undermine Chinese influence in Africa, which the US in particular finds troubling. With improved relations, Turkey may then draw on US support to bolster its own position on certain Arab issues, especially in the ongoing conflicts in Syria and Libya.

 
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But yeah China's only competitor in AFRICA is Turkey whereas the US or any other western element is not present it is only China and Turkey going at it everyone else is pushed out..
Good read, thanks bro! In EPC business US never matters, they are not our competitor. When it comes to Africa, I am a bit concerned about French colonial influence especially in the north, we have seen Libya and how it turned out to be very, very, ugly. Another challenge for China (and Turkey now in the business like you said) is about IMF funded projects, as you know IMF is practically "kidnapped" by Europeans. Africa is not exactly a level playing field, the Europeans have their ways to "compete".
 
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Good read, thanks bro! In EPC business US never matters, they are not our competitor. When it comes to Africa, I am a bit concerned about French colonial influence especially in the north, we have seen Libya and how it turned out to be very, very, ugly. Another challenge for China (and Turkey now in the business like you said) is about IMF funded projects, as you know IMF is practically "kidnapped" by Europeans. Africa is not exactly a level playing field, the Europeans have their ways to "compete".

Yes I agree with the IMF which is an underhanded way but as far as Libya goes they don't have any significiant influence there it is Turkish-Egyptian separated zone and Egypt controls the East and Turkey West. France just doesn't want to see Turkey gain Libya so it backs Egypt but it is technically a supporting role and has no influence there beyond that but places where France has actual influence and presence is the Sahel region which is Mali, Senegal, Niger, Chad, Ivory Coast basically the French speaking West Africa in the Sahel and when I say french I mean as in French is their first language literally like chinese is your first langauge France has influence there and hard to undo that but Russia has moved in to chellenge there specifically which is good because it will keep them bogged down.. But other than that it has no construction competition in Africa hence they have no physical presence or interest over all of Africa because the Africans themselves don't want to offer contracts to them because they are expensive, lazy and never get the job done on time just alot of delays
 
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the Africans themselves don't want to offer contracts to them because they are expensive, lazy and never get the job done on time just alot of delays
LOL ain't that true! Plus their blown-out-of-proportion so called "tech" was shown to the real world by ours, even when they use IMF to exert political pressure still can't save their lack of competence.

When I said Libya it was about pre-2011 when China has won almost all EPC (around 50 EPCs valued at $19 billion), then we know what happened, and 35000 Chinese nationals (engineers, technicians, etc) pulled out. This is just one well-known event, there are far more other cases that can never make it to western MSM. Like I've said, Europeans have their old way to "do business" in Africa, it's them Turkey needs to watch out now, not China which is pure business.
 
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Chinese construction companies are no.1 in the world currently and take biggest share in Africa but you won't guess who is China's biggest competitor in the African construction projects competition? that also sits on the second place with second most construction projects? Turkey? That is right you wouldn't ever guess them being a competitior in the African construction arena with China and even I was surprised when I found out about this. Example China is working with the Sisi government in Egypt build a whopping 40 new cities all these are under construction alot of people are questioning where the egyptians got all this money from recently but could be from Libya since Hafter is an Egyptian puppet because it is unprecedented and doesn't make sense otherwise.. But aside from that I think few Chinese companies have won contracts in Neom all tho not largely represented like they are in Egypt where it is exclusively Chinese-Egyptians construction companies.

There is alot of competition in the construction world but their news doesn't get reported here because it is not a construction forum but if you go to the construction forums you will realize it is a big world with alot of competition going on both on the local and international level
Thought you knew that Egypt was the richest middle East country in the 50s.. and after three big wars the economy have slowed down.. Now it is picking up again.. Thanks to the huge Gas fields and very good management..

Do you really think Libya had that much money.. it has just started to sell its oil again and itself has asked Egypt to help it rebuild the country..
 
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Thought you knew that Egypt was the richest middle East country in the 50s.. and after three big wars the economy have slowed down.. Now it is picking up again.. Thanks to the huge Gas fields and very good management..

Do you really think Libya had that much money.. it has just started to sell its oil again and itself has asked Egypt to help it rebuild the country..

I don't know man. Libya has alot of oil and if Egypt were to take payment in just a year or 2 it could be alot of cash
 
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NEOM is coming along well..

New update on the progress there from few days ago it is not complete yet but they have come a long way.

 
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A very good project, would help obtain new green technologies. For a car free city, it should not have been linear though.

Linear is much easy to maintain and also traffic wise it is easier because there is underground linear connection
 
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Say hello to fast rising neom.. The future rises as this city will become model to follow
 
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I saw a documentary about this city. First of its kind in town planning and implementation. Public transport is going to be a challenge though since everything will be connected in a linear fashion. Not exactly an ergonomic design but since it is in the middle of nowhere, this might actually work.

The Saudis can try making this 100% solar-powered city, given how abundant the sunlight in that region is.

Meanwhile millions blockaded Yemeni children and Africans are dying from lack of food and illness.

True Muslims indeed.
Come on, dostam.

  1. 1) You support Christian Armenia against Muslim Azerbaijan, while Jewish Israel supported the latter in their conflict.
  2. You and Iraq also fought wars against each other despite being Muslims.
  3. Algeria and Morocco are literally the closest in every term or cultural identification including religion. And yet, they are frenemies.
  4. Turkey collaborates more with China despite their disagreement on the Uyghur issue.
  5. UAE an Islamic country, signed a Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement with India
World over, people look for common interests.

Let's keep this thread about NEOM.

Cheers!
 
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