Saudi Arabia bought American Patriot junk missile crashed into city after being fired

[The SC]

Is a generation 2030 to you? Possibly by 2050....


Thats not enough just Women driving they need a skilled work force, who doesn't lack the work ethic....
As for KAUST...... Saudi nationals form the minority..... As of 2016, KAUST has 940 students in total[1] and 1200 alumni. The student population comes from over 60 nationalities from all continents, 69% of students are international and 31% are from Saudi Arabia

Have you ever heard of SABIC, ARAMCO and much more Saudi worldwide renown companies.. KSA does not need to start with full working force.. Management, Engineers, technicians are enough to run a successful operation.. There is no lack of highly educated or highly skilled Saudis in any field.. and reforms are going on successfully as all indices show.. Saudi Arabia has around 25 million population and the Arab world has almost 500 million.. can't you see that pool.. and that is only the Arab countries.. add Pakistan, Bangladesh and India for skilled workers in factories and you can see that failure is only in the failed minds..The UAE is doing great despite being 1/10th of KSA.. it is a good model.. and as long as there are very populous nations with a lot of skilled workers who want to work outside of their countries.. there is no fear for KSA's future.. The US also was built that way.. As I know that GCC's wealth alone causes a lot of pain to a lot of people.. I hope it is not the case for some people here..Although it seems sometimes just like that..and it is called envy beyond any rationality..

OT:
104 BM were fired on KSA from Yemen Houthis.. 208 Patriot missiles were fired to intercept them.. one failed (not even in interception.. just a technical issue).. what is 1 on 208 or 0,0048 failure rate.. It just says that the dump will always be dump.. suffering from envy and much other negative emotions eating up their hearts..

 

[yavar]

Videos raise questions over Saudi missile intercept claims

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — As with nearly every ballistic missile launched by Yemen’s Shiite rebels targeting Saudi Arabia, the kingdom overnight said it intercepted all seven fired — but online videos raise new questions about those claims.
One video appears to show a Patriot missile launch on Sunday night go rapidly wrong, with the missile changing course midair, crashing into a neighborhood in Riyadh and exploding. Another appears to detonate shortly after being launched in the Saudi capital.
Saudi Arabia’s Information Ministry did not respond to requests for comment Monday from The Associated Press. However, the videos appear to show the kingdom being yet another country overstating the capability of its missile defense system, a tradition dating back to the 1991 Gulf War.

“It’s more likely that none of the missiles have been intercepted than it is that the Saudis have shot down any,” said Jeffrey Lewis, a missile expert at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies in Monterey, California, who watched the videos and previously has studied other Saudi Patriot missile launches.

https://twitter.com/x/status/978102936839467009

The Saudi-owned satellite news channel Al Arabiya aired footage that it said showed Patriot missile batteries firing at the incoming Houthi missiles in Riyadh. One Patriot missile appears to explode seconds after being launched, drawing a shout from a bystander as flaming fragments rain down on the ground.

In another video circulated online, a just-launched Patriot missile suddenly changes course, smashing into the ground near a residential neighborhood.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/videos-raise-questions-over-saudi-missile-intercept-claims/

 

[Clutch]

It seems like the saidi Patriot has a 50% failure rate... One missile shoots down incoming and the other kills the folks on the ground...

 

[war&peace]

104 BM were fired on KSA from Yemen Houthis.. 208 Patriot missiles were fired to intercept them.

208 patriots for 104 BMs...that means 2 patriot missiles are needed to intercept 1 BM.

 

[LeGenD]

Funny thing is that Trump has threatened both Iraq and Sawdi puppets of consequences if they buy the S400 system. lol

This piece of Shit Patriot 3 is not a good advertisement for LM by any stretch of imagination. God knows how many Sawdi military personnel have already been killed by the sandal wearing Houthi's. Man these guys can't fight.... lol

Saudi are using PAC-2 systems - improved PAC-1 designs mostly.

Delivery of vastly superior PAC-3 systems to Saudi Arabia have not materialized yet.

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S-400 system will be just as effective as its interceptor class:

1. 48N6 interceptor employ blast-fragmentation method to stop a ballistic missile (PAC-1 TIER shit) and not very effective in this capacity.

2. 70N6 interceptor employ hit-to-kill method to stop a ballistic missile (PAC-3 TIER) but in development phase.

So I don't get the hype of S-400 in this community.

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American armed forces have shifted to PAC-3 and THAAD in current times - excellent systems. In-fact, Chinese reaction to deployment of a single THAAD battery in South Korea is self-explanatory.

@Beast

208 patriots for 104 BMs...that means 2 patriot missiles are needed to intercept 1 BM.

In the case of PAC-1 and PAC-2 variants: YES

In the case of PAC-3 system: not necessary

 

[war&peace]

1. 48N6 interceptor employ blast-fragmentation method to stop a ballistic missile (PAC-1 TIER shit) and not very effective in this capacity.

Israel's Iron Dome is also uses blast-fragmentation method to destroy its target.

2. 70N6 interceptor employ hit-to-kill method to stop a ballistic missile (PAC-3 TIER) but in development phase.

That needs very degree of accuracy and manoeuvrability thus lowering the probability of successful engagement. If it does not hit the target, it failed.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

No ABM system is 100% accurate so there will be a miss every now and than. But the way those 2 patriot interceptors failed, especially the one with u-turn tilt and banged into the ground, do raise questions about the system's over all success rate.

 

[LeGenD]

Israel's Iron Dome is also uses blast-fragmentation method to destroy its target.

That needs very degree of accuracy and manoeuvrability thus lowering the probability of successful engagement. If it does not hit the target, it failed.

Iron Dome is not designed to intercept ballistic missiles - it is on lower TIER.

PAC-3 system is state-of-the-art - first member of the Patriot family of defenses that is designed to take out ballistic missiles from the get-go - radar systems and interceptors are much more advanced than earlier variants. Russians are taking notes.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Funny thing is that Trump has threatened both Iraq and Sawdi puppets of consequences if they buy the S400 system. lol

This piece of Shit Patriot 3 is not a good advertisement for LM by any stretch of imagination. God knows how many Sawdi military personnel have already been killed by the sandal wearing Houthi's. Man these guys can't fight.... lol

Russian S-300

 

[LeGenD]

No ABM system is 100% accurate so there will be a miss every now and than. But the way those 2 patriot interceptors failed, especially the one with u-turn tilt and banged into the ground, do raise questions about the system's over all success rate.

Saudi are using an older generation of PAC systems. Not the latest PAC-3 variant.

 

[newb3e]

Americay na Suliaman keh larkay ko thook laga dia!

 

[The SC]

208 patriots for 104 BMs...that means 2 patriot missiles are needed to intercept 1 BM.

Sometimes more.. just to make sure of the intercept.. This is a very serious matter..nothing is left to chance,,

No ABM system is 100% accurate so there will be a miss every now and than. But the way those 2 patriot interceptors failed, especially the one with u-turn tilt and banged into the ground, do raise questions about the system's over all success rate.

Even if we consider two patriot missiles failed.. that is on 208 or a bit more shots.. it just means and confirms a very very high success rate..

 

[war&peace]

Sometimes more.. just to make sure of the intercept.. This is a very serious matter..nothing is left to chance,,

So what happens to the extra missile fired if the first missile has intercepted. They self destruct? and how does it know that the targets have been destroyed.. I guess some criteria based on the range and fuel.

 

[The SC]

So what happens to the extra missile fired if the first missile has intercepted. They self destruct? and how does it know that the targets have been destroyed.. I guess some criteria based on the range and fuel.

They usually self destruct..because they have different interception points.. but confusion can happen (very seldom though).. when the first interception missile hits the target in a shorter point of intercept than it was intended..causing a confusion in the second missile's data so it turns away instead of hitting/targeting the first Patriot missile!.. a problem can also be caused by the burning debris.. and as it was shown in the first video..there were a lot of debris.. we noted that the first interception was made in a close range..We know that the Patriot can only intercept BMs in their final phase of attack.. which we also know is a very high speed phase for the BM.. so it can get close very quickly and the reaction time is very short.. this should be credited to the well trained Saudi operators.. An early warning radar must have detected the missiles.. but they were spread on 4 different cities.. add to it that even in the case of early detection, the Patriot can only intercept the missiles at about 25 km range _to be practical_..and in a surprise attack like this one.. the range might be shorter..

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Even if we consider two patriot missiles failed.. that is on 208 or a bit more shots.. it just means and confirms a very very high success rate..

I understand that but there are views floating in media now that its success rate is way over rated infact people are doubting Saudis claim of intercepting most of the houthi missiles now. Anyways if Saudi Army is satisfied with patriots than we shouldn't doubt their claim as of now.