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Salafist patrol sparks new debate on Islam in Germany

What a joke!

Those guys just asked people to refrain from evil and harmful acts like drinking alochol and gambling. Nothing in wrong in that.

Islamaphobia in Nazi Germany.
 
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What a joke!

Those guys just asked people to refrain from evil and harmful acts like drinking alochol and gambling. Nothing in wrong in that.

Islamaphobia in Nazi Germany.
They dont have any right to ask. I am drinking alcohol with my own money. Who the hell are they ?
 
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Action by muslims are required rather than statements. Actions should be dealt with action, not statements.
agree in letter and spirit but such actions get painted as sectarian.

except the Iranian support of Hizbullah. 99.9% of worldwide terror is driven from Wahabi ideology. there is money, fanaticism and willing numbers of people to do the bidding.

you will only see moderate sunnis (normally mocked as sufi Muslims ) and shias (generally declared kafir and deviant) who will stand in front of this global terrorist campaign.

someone might point towards Saudi, Qatari and Turkish opposition to some of the elements but sadly what we see is that these leading Islamic countries that dish out their petro funded Islam to the world (Turkey is new Pakistan of the 2000s by supporting FSA) have their likes and dislikes among different bastardized brands of Al Qaeda. so in effect their opposition is self defeating.. much like 3 steps forward and 5 step backward.



in short?

it wont happen. those who will stand against such forces are normally eliminated by the forces who would rather see this carnage carry on for a long time.

in Pakistan moderate sunnis and shias who talk about peace and respect among communities are specifically targeted by terrorists , they are not helped by the government so either they die or they escape to the west in silence and anonymity
 
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agree in letter and spirit but such actions get painted as sectarian.

except the Iranian support of Hizbullah. 99.9% of worldwide terror is driven from Wahabi ideology. there is money, fanaticism and willing numbers of people to do the bidding.

you will only see moderate sunnis (normally mocked as sufi Muslims ) and shias (generally declared kafir and deviant) who will stand in front of this global terrorist campaign.

someone might point towards Saudi, Qatari and Turkish opposition to some of the elements but sadly what we see is that these leading Islamic countries that dish out their petro funded Islam to the world (Turkey is new Pakistan of the 2000s by supporting FSA) have their likes and dislikes among different bastardized brands of Al Qaeda. so in effect their opposition is self defeating.. much like 3 steps forward and 5 step backward.



in short?

it wont happen. those who will stand against such forces are normally eliminated by the forces who would rather see this carnage carry on for a long time.

in Pakistan moderate sunnis and shias who talk about peace and respect among communities are specifically targeted by terrorists , they are not helped by the government so either they die or they escape to the west in silence and anonymity
If you dont stand against them out of fear or what ever, non-muslims will see it as a silent support. It is because they will ask this question "
1. Why do muslims protest when they feel that their rights are violated (eg. Burkha ban) but remained silent when islamic terrorists violets both muslims and non-muslims right ?
2. Why do muslims protested violently because of a cartoon published in another country but remained silent when terrorist misuse their religion ?
3. Why do muslims protests in non-muslim countries for their right when in their own country, they dont basic rights to non-muslims and even persecute them ?
4. Why do muslims demand respect for their own religion where as they dont respect non-muslims religions( eg. bamiyan Buddha) ?

All of you have to stand against these people in your own country and every where else. Try it and you will see people will join you. Actions must be taken. Statements will not work here.
 
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You are an idiot. Have a look at what these terrorists in training mean by sharia police.




Those wahabi idiots have no right to tell anyone anything. And they sure dont have the right to put on uniforms and pretend to be police officers. This is how it starts. Look at london, you have these idiots harassing and beating people up in what they call " sharia zones ". You must not be very intelligent.

How about I walk into your home and tell you, your wife and children what you can and cannot do. If you are okay with this, write down your address and ill send some salafists " police " brainwashed losers without an education to tell you how to live.


Mother fcuk these bastards, their families and the camels they rode in on. That shit show of a quasi religion only works in the deserts of the saudi family. Not in any civilized society.


I can drink when i want and its nobodies fcuking business. Unless they make it their business. In which case there will be a physical confrontation.

What a joke!

Those guys just asked people to refrain from evil and harmful acts like drinking alochol and gambling. Nothing in wrong in that.

Islamaphobia in Nazi Germany.
 
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Salafist patrol sparks new debate on Islam in Germany
Eleven young Salafists in bright orange vests with the words Sharia Police written on the back patrolled the city of Wuppertal last week. Germans are outraged - and wonder how to react.

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Was it a harmless joke or a provocative threat?

Last Wednesday, a group of young men marched up to young people at the doors of Turkish discotheques, cafes and amusement arcades and told them to refrain from drinking alcohol and playing games for money. The self-proclaimed guardians of public morals are Salafists, the fastest growing group of radical Muslims in Germany. The head of the Wuppertal group is German convert Sven Lau, alias Abu Adam.

Real police officers intervened, and took down the Salafists' personal data. Ever since, a debate has raged in Germany. "Sharia is not tolerated on German soil," Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière said, and Justice Minister Heiko Maas warned Germany would not tolerate any form of illegal parallel justice.

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One of the leaders: German Salafist Lau

"Minimal effort, maximum attention – these fellows really achieved what they set out to do," said Mathias Rohe.

"They anticipated the outrage," the Islam expert from the southern city of Erlangen told DW. Lau openly rejoiced on his Facebook page, presenting German media coverage ranging from tabloids to conservative papers – including appreciative comments from his supporters.

Warning lights flash

Quite obviously, the small group of Salafists successfully played with Germans' widespread fear of Islam.

"The majority of the population isn't skeptical of Muslims who live here," Rohe points out. "They're wary of Islam as such." People feel an "abstract threat" that takes on a concrete form in terrorist groups, like the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, he added.

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Society must respond, Rohe says

The word Sharia sets off alarm bells - "no matter whether it's about awful things like hacking off hands or about banning alcohol and gambling."

Islam's Sharia law is the fundamental religious concept of Islam, and addresses religious duties and legal codes. The Arab term, which means "way to the watering place", is found in the Koran.

Developed by Islamic legal experts in the 8th and 9th centuries, Sharia is the legal framework that determines many aspects in day-to-day individual and public life. In theory, it also applies to non-Muslims.

Liberal society

Society should respond to the incident in Wuppertal on three levels, the Erlangen scholar suggested. Apart from prosecuting the crime, society must make it abundantly clear that "we live in a liberal society that we want to defend", he said, adding that third, Muslims and Muslim organizations must take a stance and say, very decidedly, "That doesn't suit us!" The debate among Muslims should be evident in the media, too, he said. "Muslims are constantly commenting in public, but often enough, that's not conveyed," he argued.

As in this case, German Muslim organizations regularly dissociate themselves from extremist incidents. "Assuming police work is inacceptable," Ali Kizilkaya of the Cologne-based national Muslim Coordination Council (KRK) declared. It harms Muslim reputation, even if the majority of Muslims don't identify with such acts in the first place, he told Deutsche Welle. In German society, everyone can live according to their faith, Kizilkaya added - annoyed by the amount of attention actions by such a small group get.

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"Sharia Police" - deliberate provocation?

Combat Islamism with Islam

The "PR gag by a group of young hooligans" has blurred the "clear definition between extremism and religion," warned Aiman Mazyek, the head of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany (ZMD). The activists are doing all Muslims in Germany a disservice, he said, adding that many young extremists had long bowed out of Muslim society.

"They say, this is a mollycoddled Islam, we want to go the hard way," Mazyek said - and suggested fighting Islamism with Islam.

Strengthen the mainstream and support Muslim organizations, he urged. "Unfortunately, the current political climate doesn't indicate that that has been understood," the ZMD's Secretary General told DW. "Instead, we're being marginalized, which in turn strengthens the radical fringes."

On September 19, Muslims across Germany have the opportunity to demonstrate for peace and against extremism. Under the motto "Muslims stand up against hatred and injustice", the four leading German Islam organizations are calling for solemn vigils and peace demonstrations in seven German cities.

Salafist patrol sparks new debate on Islam in Germany | Germany | DW.DE | 10.09.2014
Well although I am also a salafi but this was stupid move they need to spread Islam and try convert majority to Islam no matter How much time it takes and people like piere vogel are doing good job
 
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Well although I am also a salafi but this was stupid move they need to spread Islam and try convert majority to Islam no matter How much time it takes and people like piere vogel are doing good job
You are right. Your message should be spread everywhere.
 
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Only weak minds and small brains hide behind religion to do their evil deeds. Cowards.
 
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