Sajjad Lone, Former Separatist With Pakistani Wife, Wins in Kashmir

[arbit]

Not really. There have been similar high turn outs in the past. This isn't so much a victory for India's democracy as much as it is Kashmiris coming out in droves to make sure their candidates are in charge of Kashmir, rather than ones controlled directly by Dehli.

thats called checkmate. You said there are no elections. Now there are. You said they were not free an fair. Now they are. You said the populace will not engage with the govt of india. Now they will have to This is one step amongst many to come. We shall increase the engagement, bring prosperity to them and let them compare their living conditions with those in Azad Kashmir. You are going to be on a very sticky wicket my friend.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

This is no check mate, it's called being politically expedient. If tomorrow you removed the 750 000 troops from Kashmir, we would know that Kashmiris would free themselves from the Indian yoke, there are no two ways about that.

This is merely Kashmiris bettering their lot, the moment bjp or whoever try's to infringe or impress upon anything to do with article 370 or policy on ASFPA they will fall flat on their face.

These are the same Lones of kupwara and handwara and baramullah and sopore who have been the bloodline of the freedom fight for centuries, but what would distant Indians from hundreds and thousands of miles in distant lands know anything about them. Kashmiris have seen this time and again and will see through these foreign Indian occupies

 

[Kaniska]

Again, not really. Most voted out of necessity. Take Canada, for example. Parti Quebecois is a separatist party that works within the legal system, and only urges people to vote because it doesn't want to hand over control of Quebec to Ottawa. The same principle applies here, and the only way I can see you being correct is if BJP wins outright.

I got it what you are referring to...Here is my thought about this entire debate of voting %.

1- It is not like if Kashmir valley votes more then they would start loving Indian people...But it is also a fact that it is the same Kashmir people who made participating in democratic process as accepting India's sovereignty and that is exactly the reason why separatist are calling for boycott..If i go by your logic then why terrorist are killing Sarpanch in the Jammu Kashmir?
Since last 25 year, Why Geelani and other separatist gives boycott call? Do you have any answer for that? Voter participation is basically against the wish of the boycott call..If you think people are voting for roads and electricity , why do you think that people do not wish to have good road and electricity in 1990 when election were help and 10% of people votes at that time.

2- This is what i interpret for the things unfolding in Kashmir. Kashmir separatism has major hope that Pakistan will do something and they will be able to separate Kashmir in short period of time...That dreams is slowing turning it as illusion....Pakistan itself is struggling to defend its own sovereignty from the hand of terrorist...Hence the sympathy within Pakistan society to use terrorism as a tool in Kashmir to force India is slowly on decline.
3- After its military success in Punjab, Indian security apparatus are more confident in dealing with Kashmir separatism....Although it may be non Humanitarian, but India used brutal military force along with social and other media pressure on Kashmir, Pakistan and other international forum to present Kashmir as a case of terrorism than a genuine freedom struggle..

4- Kashmir in general does not have any location advantage...They are sandwiched between Himalaya on one side and unstable Pakistan on other side...If Pakistan stop helping, Kashmir insurgency is a dead case...And some how, India or its self destructive habit of Pakistan created such a situation in Pakistan that Pakistan is fighting a war withing itself...Pakistan is so much occupied with Afghanistan and terrorism on its eastern border it does not have capacity to deal with Kashmir issue..

5- India is developing...In this age, every state would like to part of developing nation...There are growing section of people in Kashmir is thinking that if they are allowed to continue with 370 then it is a better option to continue with India rather than being with Pakistan..Kashmir is not ready to spoil another generation like Palestine who are just fighting with endless war..

 

[Jackdaws]

India should keep its part, Pakistan can keep its part. Let Kashmirs live in peace instead of blackmailing them with Ummah and Jihad. Cheers.

Sounds good to me. And to most sane people. Shame that the powers to be can't grasp this simple fact and move on.

 

[Kaniska]

This is no check mate, it's called being politically expedient. If tomorrow you removed the 750 000 troops from Kashmir, we would know that Kashmiris would free themselves from the Indian yoke, there are no two ways about that.

This is merely Kashmiris bettering their lot, the moment bjp or whoever try's to infringe or impress upon anything to do with article 370 or policy on ASFPA they will fall flat on their face.

These are the same Lones of kupwara and handwara and baramullah and sopore who have been the bloodline of the freedom fight for centuries, but what would distant Indians from hundreds and thousands of miles in distant lands know anything about them. Kashmiris have seen this time and again and will see through these foreign Indian occupies

Thats your wish dear...But unfortunately...your wish is not getting fulfilled.....In 1990s there are so many terrorism issues...but do you see now People are not visiting Kashmir due to fear of terrorist attack...But now it is quite different...At the end of the day, who cares wheather people love me or not...What i care is that i do not need any passport to go to Kashmir..I really give a damn if Kashmir loves other Indian state people or not...

Who got the most seats? I bet BJP came second or third.

BJP got 2nd in Jammu and Kashmir....It is a remarkable acheivement for a nationalistic party like BJP to get 25 seat which is just 3 seats less than the 1st party...I hope you got the message...There are equal number of people in Jammu and Kashmir who even ready to vote for Ultra nationalistic party like BJP....This is the biggest message now India will show case to the world.....

 

[Jackdaws]

This is no check mate, it's called being politically expedient. If tomorrow you removed the 750 000 troops from Kashmir, we would know that Kashmiris would free themselves from the Indian yoke, there are no two ways about that.

This is merely Kashmiris bettering their lot, the moment bjp or whoever try's to infringe or impress upon anything to do with article 370 or policy on ASFPA they will fall flat on their face.

These are the same Lones of kupwara and handwara and baramullah and sopore who have been the bloodline of the freedom fight for centuries, but what would distant Indians from hundreds and thousands of miles in distant lands know anything about them. Kashmiris have seen this time and again and will see through these foreign Indian occupies

I love the confidence with which many posters just pull the numbers from thin air. Do you have any reliable source for these 750k Indian troops?

 

[Prometheus]

Who is likely to form the govt?

no one

Possible BJP will do "Horse trading" and exchange some suitcase and try to make govt.

 

[Hindustani78]

Important thing is how many muslims won no matter which party?

Jammu and Kashmir Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Election Results 2014
Karnah Raja Manzoor Ahmad (PDP )Winner
Kupwara Adv. Bashir Ahmad Dar (JPC )Winner
Lolab Abdul Haq Khan (PDP )Winner
Handwara Sajad Gani Lone (JPC)Winner
Langate Abdul Rashid Sheikh (IND)Winner
Uri Mohammad Shafi (JKNC )Winner
Rafiabad Yawar Ahmad Mir (PDP )Winner
Sopore Abdul Rashid Dar (INC )Winner
Gurez Nazir Ahmad Khan (JKNC )Winner Faqir
Bandipora Usman Abdul Majid (INC )Winner
Sonawari Mohammad Akbar Lone (JKNC )Winner
Sangrama Syed Basharat Ahmed Bukhari (PDP )Winner
Baramulla Javid Hassan Baig (PDP)Winner
Gulmarg Mohd. Abass Wani (PDP )Winner
Pattan Imran Raza Ansari (PDP )Winner
Kangan Altaf Ahmad (JKNC )Winner
Ganderbal Ishfaq Ahmad Sheikh (JKNC )Winner
Hazratbal Asiea (PDP )Winner Mohammad
Zadibal Abid Hussain Ansari (PDP )Winner
Idgah Mubarik Ahmad Gul (JKNC )Winner
Khanyar Ali Mohd Sagar (JKNC )Winner
Habbakadal Shamim Firdous (JKNC )Winner
Amirakadal Syed Mohammad Altaf Bukhari (PDP)Winner
Sonawar Mohammad Ashraf Mir (PDP )Winner
Batamaloo Noor Mohd Sheikh (PDP )Winner
Chadoora Javaid Mustafa Mir (PDP )Winner
Badgam Aga Syed Ruhullah Mehdi (JKNC )Winner
Beerwah Omar Abdullah (JKNC)Winner
Khansahib Hakeem Mohammad Yaseen Shah (JKPDF (S) )Winner
Charari Sharief Ghulam Nabi Lone (PDP )Winner
Tral Mr. Mushtaq Ahmad Shah (PDP )Winner
Pampore Zahoor Ahmad Mir (PDP )Winner
Pulwama Mohd. Khalil Band (PDP )Winner
Rajpora Haseeb A Drabu (PDP )Winner
Wachi Aijaz Ahmad Mir (PDP )Winner
Shopian Mohd Yousuf Bhat (PDP )Winner
Noorabad Abdul Majid Padder (PDP )Winner
Kulgam Mohamad Yousuf Tarigami (CPM )Winner
Homeshalibugh Ab. Majeed (JKNC )Winner
Anantnag Mufti Mohd Sayeed (PDP)Winner
Devsar Mohammad Amin Bhat (INC )Winner
Dooru Syed Farooq Ahmad Andrabi (PDP )Winner
Kokernag Abdul Rahim Rather (PDP )Winner
Shangus Gulzar Ahmad Wani (INC)Winner
Bijbehara Abdul Rehman Bhat (PDP )Winner
Pahalgam Altaf Ahmad Wani (JKNC )Winner
Nobra Deldan Namgail (INC )Winner T
Leh Nawang Rigzin (INC )Winner
Kargil Asgar Ali Karbalaie (INC )Winner
Zanskar Syed Mohammad Baqir Rizvi (IND )Winner
Kishtwar Sunil Kumar Sharma S/O Lt Bansi Lal Sharma (BJP )Winner
Inderwal Ghulam Mohd Saroori S/O Late Saidullah Saroori (INC )Winner
Doda Shakti Raj (BJP )Winner
Bhaderwah Daleep Singh (BJP )Winner
Ramban Neelam Kumar Langeh (BJP )Winner
Banihal Vikar Rasool Wani (INC )Winner
Gulabgarh Mumtaz Ahmed (INC )Winner
Reasi Ajay Nanda (BJP )Winner
Gool Arnas Ajaz Ahmed Khan (INC )Winner
Udhampur Pawan Kumar Gupta (IND )Winner
Chanani Dina Nath (BJP )Winner
Ramnagar Ranbir Singh Pathania (BJP )Winner
Bani Jewan Lal (BJP )Winner
Basohli Lal Singh (BJP )Winner
Kathua Rajiv Jasrotia (BJP )Winner
Billawar Dr. Nirmal Kumar Singh (BJP )Winner
Hiranagar Kuldeep Raj (BJP )Winner Girdhari
Samba Devinder Kumar Manyal (BJP )Winner
Vijaypur Chander Parkash (BJP )Winner
Nagrota Devender Singh Rana (JKNC )Winner
Gandhinagar Kavinder Gupta (BJP )Winner
Jammu East Rajesh Gupta (BJP )Winner
Jammu West Sat Paul Sharma (BJP )Winner
Bishnah Kamal Verma (JKNC )Winner
R.S. Pura Dr. Gagan Bhagat (BJP )Winner
Suchetgarh Sham Lal Choudhary (BJP )Winner
Marh Sukhnandan Kumar (BJP )Winner
Raipur Domana Bali Bhagat (BJP )Winner
Akhnoor Rajeev Sharma (BJP )Winner
Chhamb Dr. Kirshan Lal (BJP )Winner
Nowshera Ravinder Kumar (BJP )Winner
Darhal Choudhary Zulfkar Ali (PDP )Winner
Rajouri Qamar Hussain (PDP )Winner
Kalakote Abdul Ghani Kohli (BJP )Winner
Surankote Ch Mohd Akram (INC )Winner
Mendhar Javed Ahmed Rana (JKNC )Winner
Poonch Haveli Shah Mohd Tantray (PDP )Winner

 

[That Guy]

BJP got 2nd in Jammu and Kashmir....It is a remarkable acheivement for a nationalistic party like BJP to get 25 seat which is just 3 seats less than the 1st party...I hope you got the message...There are equal number of people in Jammu and Kashmir who even ready to vote for Ultra nationalistic party like BJP....This is the biggest message now India will show case to the world.....

It could simply be explained away as a protest vote against dissatisfaction of local community leaders, it doesn't really equate to complete support for BJP. This sort of thing has happened before. In Canada's quebec, separatists (BQ) lost a huge amount of seats against the federalist party NDP, but they're looking to make a comeback next elections.

I got it what you are referring to...Here is my thought about this entire debate of voting %.

1- It is not like if Kashmir valley votes more then they would start loving Indian people...But it is also a fact that it is the same Kashmir people who made participating in democratic process as accepting India's sovereignty and that is exactly the reason why separatist are calling for boycott..If i go by your logic then why terrorist are killing Sarpanch in the Jammu Kashmir?
Since last 25 year, Why Geelani and other separatist gives boycott call? Do you have any answer for that? Voter participation is basically against the wish of the boycott call..If you think people are voting for roads and electricity , why do you think that people do not wish to have good road and electricity in 1990 when election were help and 10% of people votes at that time.

I disagree. If I recall, during the height of the insurgency in kashmir, the election turn out was something like 75%. I'm of the opinion that this has little to do with accepting India's sovereignty, and more to do with trying to secure Kashmiri representatives from Kashmirs.

2- This is what i interpret for the things unfolding in Kashmir. Kashmir separatism has major hope that Pakistan will do something and they will be able to separate Kashmir in short period of time...That dreams is slowing turning it as illusion....Pakistan itself is struggling to defend its own sovereignty from the hand of terrorist...Hence the sympathy within Pakistan society to use terrorism as a tool in Kashmir to force India is slowly on decline.

This is a loaded statement, one that I cannot answer without seeming to support your claim one way or another. So I won't even try.

What I will say is that Pakistan has multiple times tried to peacefully resolve Kashmir (most famously during Musharraf's era), and it has almost exclusively been India that has rejected Pakistani efforts.

3- After its military success in Punjab, Indian security apparatus are more confident in dealing with Kashmir separatism....Although it may be non Humanitarian, but India used brutal military force along with social and other media pressure on Kashmir, Pakistan and other international forum to present Kashmir as a case of terrorism than a genuine freedom struggle..

India has convinced the world that Kashmir is a religious struggle, rather than one that is secular/nationalist in nature. This is the same tactic Israel itself has used against the Palestinians. Of course, the narrative isn't completely true, but India's massive influence makes that little fact irrelevant; after all, the one with the power is the one whom dictates facts.

4- Kashmir in general does not have any location advantage...They are sandwiched between Himalaya on one side and unstable Pakistan on other side...If Pakistan stop helping, Kashmir insurgency is a dead case...And some how, India or its self destructive habit of Pakistan created such a situation in Pakistan that Pakistan is fighting a war withing itself...Pakistan is so much occupied with Afghanistan and terrorism on its eastern border it does not have capacity to deal with Kashmir issue..

Pakistan is quite stable, despite the narrative coming out of India. Yes, there are terrorist attacks, but with that logic, places like the US should have disintegrated long ago because of all the violence and racially motivated shootings that take place.

Pakistan is a sovereign state, it has the capability to deal with multiple situations. It may not be able to militarily up show India on it's eastern border (because of the war), but it's not like it could in the first place, simply because India's military power is admittedly far superior and has been for decades. However, that does not mean that Pakistan isn't politically capable of dealing with Kashmir. Even if India has a lot of influence globally, Pakistan has shown that it can exert pressure on other nations to at least not side with India.

5- India is developing...In this age, every state would like to part of developing nation...There are growing section of people in Kashmir is thinking that if they are allowed to continue with 370 then it is a better option to continue with India rather than being with Pakistan..Kashmir is not ready to spoil another generation like Palestine who are just fighting with endless war..

I reject that notion, there is no indication that Kashmiris have changed their desire for an independent state. This election doesn't change anything.

thats called checkmate. You said there are no elections. Now there are. You said they were not free an fair. Now they are. You said the populace will not engage with the govt of india. Now they will have to This is one step amongst many to come. We shall increase the engagement, bring prosperity to them and let them compare their living conditions with those in Azad Kashmir. You are going to be on a very sticky wicket my friend.

When did I say there are no elections? Whether they're free and fair is irrelevant considering that these elections change little.

Way to use a straw man argument.

How do you answer to the fact the BJP actually won the popular vote i.e. more people voted for the BJP, albeit they did not get most seats from J&K?

Protest vote, nothing more. If you truly did vote for the state department, then you'd know what that means. Protest votes happen all the time, I've already given the example of Quebec and the NDP.

Where did he talk about high turn outs? We are pointing to an ex-separatist contesting in the elections conducted by "Election Commission of India". If at all, it shows his belief in transparency of elections conducted by Indian State -- which is saying a lot, of a former separatist.

It also demonstrates to other separatists that, should they choose to contest, the elections are free/fair and are far more effective way to get their grievances addressed than taking up violence!

You make it sound like because he's a former separatist, his opinion carries more weight. Would that mean a former federalist turned separatist's words carry just as heavy a weight? I'll let you think about that.

Like i said i doesn't really matter whether they voted out of necessity or out of being highly patriotic India citizen. Nobody is here is saying that 99% of people living in Kashmir valley now suddenly realised their "Indianness" out of no where. I'm just saying that Muslim Kashmiris have completely abhorred violence & extremism & started actively participating in Indian democratic process. May be it's just for keeping BJP out or may be for improving their living conditions or may be for some other reason. It doesn't really matter as long as they abhorre from violence & extremism.
Just like the close referendum in your Canada, where those 49% who voted for an independent french speaking Quebec believed in the democratic setup of Canada & these people still participate in the democratic process without any violence.

I don't necessarily agree with that. This isn't the first time a high turn out has appeared, and it certainly won't be the last. It doesn't necessarily mean that Kashmiris believe in India's democratic process as much as they do by taking all the roads they can to achieve whatever it is they want to achieve.

My god, I had to pend half an hour sifting through my alerts to answer everyone, and even then I don't think I got to everyone.

 

[Rahi812]

I got it what you are referring to...Here is my thought about this entire debate of voting %.

1- It is not like if Kashmir valley votes more then they would start loving Indian people...But it is also a fact that it is the same Kashmir people who made participating in democratic process as accepting India's sovereignty and that is exactly the reason why separatist are calling for boycott..If i go by your logic then why terrorist are killing Sarpanch in the Jammu Kashmir?
Since last 25 year, Why Geelani and other separatist gives boycott call? Do you have any answer for that? Voter participation is basically against the wish of the boycott call..If you think people are voting for roads and electricity , why do you think that people do not wish to have good road and electricity in 1990 when election were help and 10% of people votes at that time.

2- This is what i interpret for the things unfolding in Kashmir. Kashmir separatism has major hope that Pakistan will do something and they will be able to separate Kashmir in short period of time...That dreams is slowing turning it as illusion....Pakistan itself is struggling to defend its own sovereignty from the hand of terrorist...Hence the sympathy within Pakistan society to use terrorism as a tool in Kashmir to force India is slowly on decline.
3- After its military success in Punjab, Indian security apparatus are more confident in dealing with Kashmir separatism....Although it may be non Humanitarian, but India used brutal military force along with social and other media pressure on Kashmir, Pakistan and other international forum to present Kashmir as a case of terrorism than a genuine freedom struggle..

4- Kashmir in general does not have any location advantage...They are sandwiched between Himalaya on one side and unstable Pakistan on other side...If Pakistan stop helping, Kashmir insurgency is a dead case...And some how, India or its self destructive habit of Pakistan created such a situation in Pakistan that Pakistan is fighting a war withing itself...Pakistan is so much occupied with Afghanistan and terrorism on its eastern border it does not have capacity to deal with Kashmir issue..

5- India is developing...In this age, every state would like to part of developing nation...There are growing section of people in Kashmir is thinking that if they are allowed to continue with 370 then it is a better option to continue with India rather than being with Pakistan..Kashmir is not ready to spoil another generation like Palestine who are just fighting with endless war..

The solution provided is an Indian solution of the Kashmir. I think any extemist approach by any side would be a destructive approach. Best approach would be to take Kashmir as a common ground for the future cooperation.
Kashmir could be proved as a lighthouse for future development of the region or Kashmir could through all the development of the region in the dust.
All key players of this issue should be on board for any future strategy.
We could make Kashmir has a neutral land that could be used for tourism, education, health and banking. Kashmir could be a Switzerland of South East Asia.

 

[Kaniska]

The solution provided is an Indian solution of the Kashmir. I think any extemist approach by any side would be a destructive approach. Best approach would be to take Kashmir as a common ground for the future cooperation.
Kashmir could be proved as a lighthouse for future development of the region or Kashmir could through all the development of the region in the dust.
All key players of this issue should be on board for any future strategy.
We could make Kashmir has a neutral land that could be used for tourism, education, health and banking. Kashmir could be a Switzerland of South East Asia.

But the bigger point is that why India will compromise its position just for the sake of a some Islamist anti Indian people to make it happy?...If Kashmir separatist are ready to spare another generation of insurgency, then it is their call and their destiny...India has the capacity and potential to withstand this pressure for long time...

It could simply be explained away as a protest vote against dissatisfaction of local community leaders, it doesn't really equate to complete support for BJP. This sort of thing has happened before. In Canada's quebec, separatists (BQ) lost a huge amount of seats against the federalist party NDP, but they're looking to make a comeback next elections.



I disagree. If I recall, during the height of the insurgency in kashmir, the election turn out was something like 75%. I'm of the opinion that this has little to do with accepting India's sovereignty, and more to do with trying to secure Kashmiri representatives from Kashmirs.



This is a loaded statement, one that I cannot answer without seeming to support your claim one way or another. So I won't even try.

What I will say is that Pakistan has multiple times tried to peacefully resolve Kashmir (most famously during Musharraf's era), and it has almost exclusively been India that has rejected Pakistani efforts.



India has convinced the world that Kashmir is a religious struggle, rather than one that is secular/nationalist in nature. This is the same tactic Israel itself has used against the Palestinians. Of course, the narrative isn't completely true, but India's massive influence makes that little fact irrelevant; after all, the one with the power is the one whom dictates facts.



Pakistan is quite stable, despite the narrative coming out of India. Yes, there are terrorist attacks, but with that logic, places like the US should have disintegrated long ago because of all the violence and racially motivated shootings that take place.

Pakistan is a sovereign state, it has the capability to deal with multiple situations. It may not be able to militarily up show India on it's eastern border (because of the war), but it's not like it could in the first place, simply because India's military power is admittedly far superior and has been for decades. However, that does not mean that Pakistan isn't politically capable of dealing with Kashmir. Even if India has a lot of influence globally, Pakistan has shown that it can exert pressure on other nations to at least not side with India.



I reject that notion, there is no indication that Kashmiris have changed their desire for an independent state. This election doesn't change anything.


When did I say there are no elections? Whether they're free and fair is irrelevant considering that these elections change little.

Way to use a straw man argument.


Protest vote, nothing more. If you truly did vote for the state department, then you'd know what that means. Protest votes happen all the time, I've already given the example of Quebec and the NDP.


You make it sound like because he's a former separatist, his opinion carries more weight. Would that mean a former federalist turned separatist's words carry just as heavy a weight? I'll let you think about that.


I don't necessarily agree with that. This isn't the first time a high turn out has appeared, and it certainly won't be the last. It doesn't necessarily mean that Kashmiris believe in India's democratic process as much as they do by taking all the roads they can to achieve whatever it is they want to achieve.

My god, I had to pend half an hour sifting through my alerts to answer everyone, and even then I don't think I got to everyone.

You are welcome to stay in your own delusion...At least as of now, Kashmir is part of India, i know how the politics of polarisation works out in Jammu and kashmir..

 

[arbit]

I reject that notion, there is no indication that Kashmiris have changed their desire for an independent state. This election doesn't change anything.


When did I say there are no elections? Whether they're free and fair is irrelevant considering that these elections change little.

Way to use a straw man argument.

I am quite curious as to what makes you an such an expert to state this with such confidence.
The 'best' thing we could have done was - to hold successful elections. We are engaging them. Militancy is at all time low barring few incidents and the confidence of people in government is rising. Thats our goal. Rest will come later. We are quite patient.

 

[That Guy]

I am quite curious as to what makes you an such an expert to state this with such confidence.
The 'best' thing we could have done was - to hold successful elections. We are engaging them. Militancy is at all time low barring few incidents and the confidence of people in government is rising. Thats our goal. Rest will come later. We are quite patient.

What makes you an expert to say otherwise? It's a simple observation that I've made, nothing more. Feel free to say I'm wrong, that is your right.

According to the Indian government, militancy is at an all time low, but not for the lack of trying.

You are welcome to stay in your own delusion...At least as of now, Kashmir is part of India, i know how the politics of polarisation works out in Jammu and kashmir..

And you are free to stay in your own delusions yourself. It is a simple view that I've posted, and it isn't like there isn't an precedent for it. This sort of thing has happened in other nations (including Canada), why should India be an exception?

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

Thats your wish dear...But unfortunately...your wish is not getting fulfilled.....In 1990s there are so many terrorism issues...but do you see now People are not visiting Kashmir due to fear of terrorist attack...But now it is quite different...At the end of the day, who cares wheather people love me or not...What i care is that i do not need any passport to go to Kashmir..I really give a damn if Kashmir loves other Indian state people or not...



BJP got 2nd in Jammu and Kashmir....It is a remarkable acheivement for a nationalistic party like BJP to get 25 seat which is just 3 seats less than the 1st party...I hope you got the message...There are equal number of people in Jammu and Kashmir who even ready to vote for Ultra nationalistic party like BJP....This is the biggest message now India will show case to the world.....

Yes they got it the seats in Jammu where over 2/3rds are Hindu that was going to be blatantly obvious. Have they got anything in Kashmir? Nothing nada. Like i have said Kashmiris will go where it is in there best interests , if you have a gun pointed to your head you will make whatever decision is in your best interests. There has been a global shift on views on freedom movements and terrorism etc for the moment, the struggle may have subsided but that is not to say it will remain so. You are jubilant on one election how about the countless rigged, boycotted, and ignored elections. As the famous Aristotle quoted, 'one swallow , does not make a summer'.......food for thought

 

[kadamba-warrior]

You make it sound like because he's a former separatist, his opinion carries more weight. Would that mean a former federalist turned separatist's words carry just as heavy a weight? I'll let you think about that.

He is not just some random stone throwing 'separatist' like you make him sound, either! He was a prominent 'Separatist Leader' -- his father was also a Separatist leader.

This time though, he participated in a democratic process and won! Think about that for a while and imagine the kind of message he is sending out to other Separatist leaders and stone-throwing separatists on the street!

If you have examples of a former federalist who turned a "separatist leader", we can talk about it.