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sad life of homeless people in America

Large chunk of Homeless people are drug addicts, or have some sort of criminal background and because of that they can not get jobs, and many of them just don't want to work at all, its not hard to find a 40 hour a week job with pay around 14-16$ an hour, and that can get you off the street and in a decent apartment.
I think most criminal types usually aren't homeless, they are living it up.

There are criminals and few psychos, but from my experience the homeless are generally good people, more caring than the average person.

They are there because of series of bad luck and personal/family issues that brought them to that point, so a good chunk are normal, well meaning people.
 
@Bravo6ix, do you now see the "great" American flag at the end of the Hollywood vid ? This is the flag of the same country whose government spent 700+ billion dollars as the military budget for just 2020-21, a military that is not defensive but is an invasions-oriented one. This was the same government who did not use those hundreds of billions and human and material resources to build free, high-quality neighborhoods for the many homeless and instead invaded a progressive society like the Libyan Jamahiriya which provided free housing. As said Gaddafi in 2011 when America and its NATO and GCC allies started bombing Libya :

BTW, in North Korea too the government arranges for free housing.

@VCheng, will you feel guilty driving past these people sleeping on the footpath in the sun or in plastic tents, in your shiny personal car ( that you would have purchased on loan ) ?



You are the same person who did not voice outrage against the American government when it refused to pay for the treatment of your sister who was seriously ill. You paid for the treatment from your pocket when it should have been the government to take care of such a basic human right. What if you sister had died because you were unable to come up with the money ? Would you have blamed the government or blamed yourself ? You are also the same person who instead of demanding that the American government provide bus service to your place you were asking the forum about which new car to buy. Your new car's price will feed some of these homeless people for more than a year. Some of these homeless people may become aggressive but that is the effect of living for long on the street and having daily big and small deprivations. You should be empathetic to them instead of being dismissive. How do you know that you won't be in their situation in a year given the precarious nature of your country's socio-economic system ?

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Communism of any variety is not the solution. It is like breeding cattle for the sole purpose of producing milk. Animals don't like being treated like that, let alone humans who are far more perceptive. People need a purpose in life and that purpose cannot just be to adhere to a system. If in case we can achieve it to some degree, we will have a society that is bleak in its outlook and behaviour, like the Slavs behind the iron curtain were, or how the poor North Koreans are.

There is nothing wrong with some struggle. It makes you stronger and the motivation to make your life better than it is (even spiritually and morally, not just materially) is an important driving force of human existence.

Life is unfair. Not because people make it so, but because existence has made it so. We are not born equal, even though we may like to treat everyone equally. These are 2 different concepts. That is why we have strong and weak, creative and logical, good and bad. We are like any other species and nature does not give us some additional love simply because we evolved more. We will face uncertainty and pain like all other species do.

What needs to change is people need to help each other more, contribute more to improve the lives of others. It is something in our control. As long as we have mechanisms to enable it, that is enough. Many rich people support charities, endowments and NGOs. It is the middle class which doesn't do enough. People like you and me. Even if we can't donate a million dollars, we can donate 10,000 Rupees? When was the last time you did it? I haven't done it for a long time.
 
Which country do the homeless have a happy life in?

There were no homeless in the Libyan Jamahiriya ( pre-2011 Libya ).

I just am unable to decide whether to laugh or feel bad for you, you do remember me mentioning that my sister had SLE Lupus and she had her treatment but you forget that my sister is not American neither I am, we are still Pakistani and so am I. So US Govt owe me nothing and as for my well being my employer has given me a decent medical insurance which takes around 100$ week for a extensive coverage including major diseases like Cancer, and short/long term disabilities.

Let me clear one thing first. Your sister got treated in USA, yes ? If so then if you and you sister are not American then the American government can extort taxes from you and accept she suffering and possibly dying but will not pay give her free treatment ? Don't you see the contradiction ? You are enabling your own oppression. As for the illusion of healthcare through medical insurance you are paying for the treatment one way or other. The government is doing nothing for you. If a cancer treatment costs 50,000 dollars it won't be as if your medical insurance will pay for the treatment and the system will forget about the payment if you don't have 25,000 dollars. You have to pay it either in lump sum at some point or in installments. People in USA have become bankrupt paying for their treatment or of their family.

Again, the US is a huge country and I live in the middle of nowhere, @KAL-EL had a decent Idea where I am so trust me even if US govt try to stretch a bus route there It won't just work.

So why should I trust you that it won't just work ? India too is a large country and I have traveled inter-city 500+ kilometers in buses. You should have demanded with your government to provide comfortable buses. What does a personal car do that a bus can't ?

I do have sympathy towards them but as I said addicts and criminal background does create hurdles for people to get back on their feet, there are many other factors which bring a person on the street, you would not believe that one sister of my Father in Law, who lives on the street but her dad is a millionaire. I am confident that I will not be a addict or even get into financial restrain that will bring me out on the street, I can easily work full time jobs with 20-25$ an hour which will get me a apartment in any decent American city, I am moving to St. Petersburg next Month and plan to get a 2Bed 2Bath Apartment which will mostly likely cost around 1200-1500$ a month, but with me and my wife working with life lived on budget and sensible decision making I can live a comfortable life making Halal Income.

1. "Halal income" like work in some useless software company that perpetuates a Capitalist ecosystem or some finance company related to the stock market ? What else ?

2. Why is your father-in-law's relative a millionaire and you not ? How can he have access to many goods and services and you not ? Do you not find a disparity ?

3. There are many homeless in Pakistan too. Would you dismiss them too as drug addicts and criminals ? Quite a few American farmers have suicided because of socio-economic troubles. Would you also dismiss them similarly.

4. As for your comfortable house ( an apartment, not a proper house with a garden ) and your millionaire relative's mansion, why should you have it and others not ? For you to know, when Gaddafi became the de facto leader of Libya in 1969 he vowed that his own parents will live in a tent until all Libyans are no more homeless or no more living in tin huts. But your American presidents live in mansions and many of their citizens live on the footpath in the sun or within plastic huts.

Well maybe to pay his fees, bills and support a family back home ? plus if you want to get a degree from a decent school you need to pay top dollar.

1. What is a "decent school" and why is it not available to most people ?

2. Why is education not free in USA ?

3. Why can't you make a life without a degree ? Because despite USA's Capitalist system some have done that so what stops you ? I dropped out in class 12 and have had some achievements including being the technology co-founder of a company.

4. If your housing was free ( provided by the governing system ), basic food was free, electricity and water were free, healthcare was free, education was free, bus service was free, telecommunication was free, legal service was free and so on for all basic human rights then why would someone need to slog every month in unnecessary, unscientific and non-contributory jobs to "pay bills" ? There won't be most bills existing then. Did you not read Gaddafi's essay ?

It is wrong to score political points against a country by exploiting the suffering of people. Every country has social problems.

The people of the world should demand that the American governments should redirect their yearly hundreds of billions of dollars to be used to remake America into a welfare society where there are no homeless, no one paying for healthcare, education, basic food, water, electricity, telecom etc. It is a fair ask, yes ?

Many homeless people in the US are homeless by choice because they like the lifestyle.

Then you should try being homeless for a month. Maybe you will like the lifestyle too.

I'm not pro American imperialist so don't expect me to defend them

But that's what you are doing.

This is North Korea in 2022
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The poor starving children on the brink of death while their "beloved" communist dictator enjoys lavish meals inside his palace

1. Anti-Communist Western media and governments complain that the North Koreans don't allow tours by visitors unaccompanied by government agents so who took these photos ?

2. You say that is North Korea in 2022 but the first and third photos look old.

The reality of NK described by a North Korean defector

That North Korean defector, Yeonmi Park, seems to be a notorious White House puppet who has been debunked. :lol: One detailed debunking vid is this. It is a fun vid from what I watched of its first few minutes and I will watch it later because it is about two hours long. Watch it.

And even the British mainstream media newspaper The Guardian speaks about the lies of these defectors :
With the flow of information from North Korea fiercely controlled, outsiders have long relied on defector testimonies to gain an understanding of what goes on inside the secretive state.

But relying on the anecdotes of individuals – all with different views and experiences – can also be risky.

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In a report released last year, the UN accused the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, of crimes against humanity, and called for the case to be referred to the international criminal court. UN investigators had been denied access to the country, so the organisation had instead carried out 240 confidential interviews with North Korean refugees living in South Korea, Japan, the UK and the US, including Shin Dong-hyuk, whose story was told in the bestselling Escape from Camp 14.

In January, the DPRK government released a video claiming to show Shin’s father denouncing his son’s stories as fake. When questioned, Shin confessed that parts of his account were also inaccurate, including sections on his time in Camp 14, the infamous labour camp for political prisoners, and the age at which he was tortured.

Shin is not alone. Another North Korean, Lee Soon-ok, offered testimony to the US House of Representatives in 2004, describing torture and the killing of Christians in hot iron liquid in a North Korean political prison.

There are questions to be asked about how heavily outsiders should rely on defectors’ testimonies as credible evidence
Jiyoung Song

But Lee’s testimony was challenged by Chang In-suk, then head of the North Korean Defectors’ Association in Seoul, who claimed to know first hand that Lee had never been a political prisoner. Many former DPRK citizens on the website NKnet agreed Lee’s accounts were unlikely to be true.

Similarly, Kwon Hyuk told the US Congress that he was an intelligence officer at the DPRK embassy in Beijing and had witnessed human experiments in political prisons – a critical factor in the US decision to pass the North Korea Human Rights Act in 2004.

Kwon’s account, retold in a BBC documentary back in 2004, was later questioned by South Korea’s Yonhap news agency, which argued that he never had access to such information. Many years later, Kwon has since disappeared from the public eye.

While there is no doubt the North Korean regime has committed serious human rights abuses, there are questions to be asked about how heavily outsiders should rely on defectors’ testimonies as credible evidence.

North Korea refugee and human rights activist Shin Dong-hyuk at a rally outside the White House in 2012.

North Korea refugee and human rights activist Shin Dong-hyuk at a rally outside the White House in 2012. Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
I have been interviewing North Koreans as a DPRK watcher and human rights researcher since 1999. What I’ve found suggests there are serious ethical dilemmas in the way we gather information.

What is behind the inconsistencies?​

Cash payments in return for interviews with North Korean refugees have been standard practice in the field for years.

Initially, the payment was to cover the cost of meals and local transport, which was approximately $30 in the late 1990s when I first began interviewing in China and South Korea. However, the fees had risen to $200 per hour by the time I attempted to interview people from North Korea in May 2014.

A government official from the South Korean ministry of unification told me the range of fees could vary wildly, from $50-500 per hour, depending on the quality of information.

But this practice raises a difficulty: how does the payment change the relation between a researcher and an interviewee, and what effect will it have on the story itself?

North Korean refugees are well aware of what the interviewer wants to hear

This practice also drives the demand for “saleable stories”: the more exclusive, shocking or emotional, the higher the fee.

Shin, the son of a political prisoner, doubtlessly had a horrific time inside the country, and is thought to be the only prisoner to have successfully escaped from the “total control zone” internment camp.

After his escape, he met former US president George W Bush, and his story was made into a documentary. Though parts of his story have been challenged by counter-testimony and contradictions, the power of the west’s curiosity and the media’s desire for a good story cannot be overestimated.

North Korean refugees have become well aware of what the interviewer wants to hear. Whether speaking to the UN, US Congress or western media, the questions are the same every time: why did you leave North Korea, and how terrible is it?With the number of defectors reaching 20,000 in 2010, first-person testimonies have become the norm, and have increasingly come to involve younger victims with more tragic, dramatic, visual and emotional accounts.

This raises another issue, because in my experience one-on-one interviews tend to generate more exaggerated stories. Although there are ways to confirm information through cross-examination and by consulting multiple sources, these methods are highly time-consuming, while a significant amount of the information disclosed by a single source is simply unverifiable given the fiercely secretive nature of the DPRK.

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A woman and child stand in a Pyongyang subway station. Photograph: Ed Jones/AFP/Getty Images

Pressure​

In my 16 years studying North Korean refugees, I have experienced numerous inconsistent stories, some intentional omission and occasionally, some lies. In one case the breach of trust was so significant that I could not continue my research – not just because it affected my professional capacity to analyse and deliver credible stories in an ethical way, but because it also had a deep impact on the personal trust I had invested in subjects I had sincerely cared about.

But many refugees say they feel pressured for defector stories. Ahn Myung-chol, a former prison guard at Camp 22, said people liked shocking stories and these so-called “defector-activists” were merely responding to this desire. Chong Kwang-il, a former prisoner at Camp 15, said the fame brought by media exposure trapped them, forcing them to reproduce a certain narrative.

Choi Sung-chol, from the Korean Nationality Residents Association, said the line between small and large inconsistencies was often hard to draw: “Most North Koreans do not worry about small factual mistakes as long as the big picture that North Korea violates human rights is right.”

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Choi added: “We, North Koreans, know what is true and what is fake, but at the same time we do not want to ruin the bigger political moves like the UN committee of investigation or the US Human Rights Act.”

Versions of this article originally appeared on Asia & the Pacific Policy Society’s Policy Forum and on Song Jiyoung’s blog. A Korean version of this article is available at NK News Korean
"describing torture and the killing of Christians in hot iron liquid in a North Korean political prison." LOL, this is the same as Saddam dissolving his opponents in acid tanks and his soldiers in Kuwait throwing babies out of incubators. Same level of propaganda created by White House to demonize those countries they want to regime-change and people like you fall for that.

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Again, no context and sources for the photos from you. Are you saying that these photos depicted USSR also in 1970 ?

You and your kind are only good for committing crimes against humanity by throwing them into "salt mines" and "gulags" lol

What to do ? When people don't listen to reason and rationality despite many attempts then they have to be given think time in the gulag.

Communism of any variety is not the solution. It is like breeding cattle for the sole purpose of producing milk. Animals don't like being treated like that, let alone humans who are far more perceptive. People need a purpose in life and that purpose cannot just be to adhere to a system. If in case we can achieve it to some degree, we will have a society that is bleak in its outlook and behaviour, like the Slavs behind the iron curtain were, or how the poor North Koreans are.

There is nothing wrong with some struggle. It makes you stronger and the motivation to make your life better than it is (even spiritually and morally, not just materially) is an important driving force of human existence.

Life is unfair. Not because people make it so, but because existence has made it so. We are not born equal, even though we may like to treat everyone equally. These are 2 different concepts. That is why we have strong and weak, creative and logical, good and bad. We are like any other species and nature does not give us some additional love simply because we evolved more. We will face uncertainty and pain like all other species do.

What needs to change is people need to help each other more, contribute more to improve the lives of others. It is something in our control. As long as we have mechanisms to enable it, that is enough. Many rich people support charities, endowments and NGOs. It is the middle class which doesn't do enough. People like you and me. Even if we can't donate a million dollars, we can donate 10,000 Rupees? When was the last time you did it? I haven't done it for a long time.

I will reply to you later but about North Korea please see above to start with.
 
Communism of any variety is not the solution. It is like breeding cattle for the sole purpose of producing milk. Animals don't like being treated like that, let alone humans who are far more perceptive. People need a purpose in life and that purpose cannot just be to adhere to a system. If in case we can achieve it to some degree, we will have a society that is bleak in its outlook and behaviour, like the Slavs behind the iron curtain were, or how the poor North Koreans are.

There is nothing wrong with some struggle. It makes you stronger and the motivation to make your life better than it is (even spiritually and morally, not just materially) is an important driving force of human existence.

Life is unfair. Not because people make it so, but because existence has made it so. We are not born equal, even though we may like to treat everyone equally. These are 2 different concepts. That is why we have strong and weak, creative and logical, good and bad. We are like any other species and nature does not give us some additional love simply because we evolved more. We will face uncertainty and pain like all other species do.

What needs to change is people need to help each other more, contribute more to improve the lives of others. It is something in our control. As long as we have mechanisms to enable it, that is enough. Many rich people support charities, endowments and NGOs. It is the middle class which doesn't do enough. People like you and me. Even if we can't donate a million dollars, we can donate 10,000 Rupees? When was the last time you did it? I haven't done it for a long time.
It is difficult to agree with you entirely. An entirely free enterprise/capitalist system breeds greater and greater distance between rich and poor. We need safety nets, especially for the poorest sections, guaranteeing the five basics needed to live a human experience. Charity alone, as the British found with their Victorian and earlier experiments, don't cut it. Neville Chamberlain is vilified today for being the patsy who fell for Hitler's hollow promises, but he had a great role in British politics and in British public policy long before he become the Prime Minister. That track record, those achievements are worthy of emulation. Along with that, let us hope there is no Maggie Thatcher in our future, if that future ever sees a Health Service, universal education free of cost and minimal roti, kapda and makan. We have already wrecked our demographic dividend, it is fearful to think of the consequences of this continuing crony capitalism.
 
It is difficult to agree with you entirely. An entirely free enterprise/capitalist system breeds greater and greater distance between rich and poor. We need safety nets, especially for the poorest sections, guaranteeing the five basics needed to live a human experience. Charity alone, as the British found with their Victorian and earlier experiments, don't cut it. Neville Chamberlain is vilified today for being the patsy who fell for Hitler's hollow promises, but he had a great role in British politics and in British public policy long before he become the Prime Minister. That track record, those achievements are worthy of emulation. Along with that, let us hope there is no Maggie Thatcher in our future, if that future ever sees a Health Service, universal education free of cost and minimal roti, kapda and makan. We have already wrecked our demographic dividend, it is fearful to think of the consequences of this continuing crony capitalism.

I am all for safety nets, and I support basic free healthcare, higher minimum wages and certain employment guarantees too. I did not mean to imply that charity alone will pull us through, although we are severely lacking in this department collectively.

I am strongly against crony capitalism. But the fact that capitalism has that prefix attached to it does not make the system itself undesirable. We can have higher taxation for higher slabs, but that is something to be implemented globally. One country doing it and becoming uncompetitive is not going to help.
 
1. Anti-Communist Western media and governments complain that the North Koreans don't allow tours by visitors unaccompanied by government agents so who took these photos ?
Who told you that they don't allow tours? They do but under the strict watch of "Tour Guides"
Sometimes they are able to smuggle information like this to the outside world

But that's what you are doing.
Striking communism doesn't mean you are pro American that BS is used by commies often

2. You say that is North Korea in 2022 but the first and third photos look old.

That North Korean defector, Yeonmi Park, seems to be a notorious White House puppet who has been debunked. :lol: One detailed debunking vid is this. It is a fun vid from what I watched of its first few minutes and I will watch it later because it is about two hours long. Watch it.

And even the British mainstream media newspaper The Guardian speaks about the lies of these defectors :
Perhaps you're right about the defectors white house often uses sellouts such as yourself to destabilize countries

But still doesn't change the fact that NK is a dictatorship ruled by a fat pig pretending to be a commie god

Again, no context and sources for the photos from you. Are you saying that these photos depicted USSR also in 1970 ?


Lets forget about these for a second too
Which communist countries are prospering today? Cuba? NK? USSR? (LOL) Laos? Vietnam?

What to do ? When people don't listen to reason and rationality despite many attempts then they have to be given think time in the gulag.
Yeah whoever doesn't agree with your commie bullshit is not a rational person LOL
Your imaginary world doesn't exist in the real world and USSR learned that the hard way
If it was successful Russia wouldn't switch from communism to capitalism

Keep dreaming about Gulags while Hindutva fags treat you like the vile filth sucking maggots you are
 
Large chunk of Homeless people are drug addicts, or have some sort of criminal background and because of that they can not get jobs, and many of them just don't want to work at all, its not hard to find a 40 hour a week job with pay around 14-16$ an hour, and that can get you off the street and in a decent apartment.
Not anymore. Not in the last five years with skyrocketing costs of living. A lot of regular people without support systems are finding themselves on the streets nowadays. That’s why there are tents pitched up in all kinds of places including suburbs where they would’ve never existed before. The problem is going to be far worse in the coming years as a result of this Ukraine war and the chain of events that will be triggered because of it.
 
Many homeless people in the US are homeless by choice because they like the lifestyle.

Or they are mentally ill - which is 90% of the cases. You all can Google and find out.

I agree that hard times and joblessness is part of the reason too but that is attributable to two reasons,

- The American habit of not saving for hard times
- The disjointed family situations in the US (no family help available sometimes).

Tents are pitched and vans parked only in certain suburban neighborhoods, allowable by police. This is hardly common.

That was seen in Portland, some places in Venice and San Francisco (e.g. Oakland).

If you have the drive and smarts to make it in the US - you can.

Most Bangladeshis around me that I know lead an upper middle class lifestyle at least.

They don't do drugs, live upright moral lives and have savings for tough times if they occur.

That said - their families back home now live in condos and houses priced around 20 to 25 crores and have Brabus vehicles parked in their driveways - these people are successful even in Bangladesh.

Originally these people came from educated but not well to do families.

No substitute for hard work and ambition.
 
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I thought the same thing, until I saw two things. It use to be reasonable for a person to work an average job and still manage to afford their own house within a reasonable amount of time. It was always a stretch, and you have to go without for many years as you are getting yourself on your feet, but housing was still more affordable decades ago.


Secondly, The jobs that are available in smaller cities don’t pay nearly as much to make the Price-to-income ratio work because a lot of people have moved to these cities since at least the 2008 housing crisis and developers have caught on. Case in point, Idaho housing use to be very affordable but transplants from California and other parts of the country have made that area a lot less affordable for locals (that have to manage with their same wages)

Yes, homelessness is a multi-faceted problem, and part of it is substance abuse and mental health issues. But part of it is less then affordable housing stock within a reasonable distance from work. Work from home alleviated that for some time for a section of the population but also devastated the tax basis of many cities. That is why ubiquitous and affordable mass transit is my suggestion. In a similar manner to the Tokyo train network, layers of mass transit can help bridge large cities where there are many jobs and suburban areas where housing is more affordable. For example, once the California HSR is built (when ever that actually happens) it can bridge the gap between the Central Valley and the high wage / job rich areas of SF and LA. It’s a model that has worked for the NY area with Long Island Railroad, NJ transit and Metro North.

But back to homelessness. There has to be more resources to help the mentally ill and substance abusers, but also intermediate housing (linked to a job) for those that successfully complete these programs so they don’t relapse back into these old habits. There needs to be a realistic promise of a stable home so homeless people have a tangible goal to aim for.

But I agree that this housing should not be located in the core of cities, but in less expensive areas, so the homeless are not incentivized to become too comfortable in that intermediate housing. They need to earn their way back into the central city, so that it is fair to taxpayers paying for social services and working class people trying to earn enough to pay rent or a mortgage in the central parts of cities.

While I agree with pretty much all you said there are some huge obstacles:

1) The mentally ill are wandering the streets because the Liberals in this country said back in the mid 1970's that "unless somebody has hurt somebody they don't deserve a life in a mental hospital..please set them free" due to this movie -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Flew_Over_the_Cuckoo's_Nest_(film)

2) Manufacturing can't return due to all the land, air, and water pollution laws.

3) Instead of using money to create replacement jobs for the ones they destroyed the Government would rather just perpetually use it for creating bloated non-money generating government jobs or welfare programs..and then blame businesses for not creating jobs.


Also homelessness seems to be a big problem in only a few states
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BTW according to the above page there are 580,466 people in 2020 who were homeless at one point.

But look how Biden is inviting 100,000 Ukrainians in.
I bet none of them will be on the street...but where do they magically end up..unlikely in the states above with the high homeless rates. I bet there is plenty of comfy housing available elsewhere,
 
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While I agree with pretty much all you said there are some huge obstacles:

1) The mentally ill are wandering the streets because the Liberals in this country said back in the mid 1970's that "unless somebody has hurt somebody they don't deserve a life in a mental hospital..please set them free" due to this movie -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Flew_Over_the_Cuckoo's_Nest_(film)

2) Manufacturing can't return due to all the land, air, and water pollution laws.

3) Instead of using money to create replacement jobs for the ones they destroyed the Government would rather just perpetually use it for creating bloated non-money generating government jobs or welfare programs..and then blame businesses for not creating jobs.

Thanks for pointing out the film that swayed public opinion. I agree, we have to focus on mental health and substance abuse if we really want to tackle a lot of the homelessness. Dr. Drew, an LA based practitioner I have followed for decades proposed guidelines for involuntarily committing someone for extreme mental health issues. We also need to accept that the amount of affordable housing is too limited in the country. I’m not advocating apartment buildings and dense cities, but a mix of sprawl and some transit oriented development.


2. That may have been true in the 60s and 70s, but we have some of the cleanest air in the world nowadays. So that argument can be thrown out.

3. Entitlements are soon going to put even more burden on the taxpayers as Baby boomers retire and shift from paying taxes to drawing social security. I think many in the younger generation are less empathetic then the previous generations, but hopefully the pendulum doesn’t swing to far the other way, because there really were abuses in mental health facilities. That is why the plan in the 60s under JFK or LBJ (I don’t recall whom) was to shift to more outpatient or community based facilities.
 
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Let me clear one thing first. Your sister got treated in USA, yes ?
Nope, All her treatment was done in Pakistan. Mashallah the Doctor who was treating her send her reports to America to his colleagues and they were shocked too...
 
So why should I trust you that it won't just work ? India too is a large country and I have traveled inter-city 500+ kilometers in buses. You should have demanded with your government to provide comfortable buses. What does a personal car do that a bus can't ?
People have cars, even poor people have cars, yes they are in horrible condition but as long as they are running people can go around places and to their work, small towns just don't have needs for bus routes, big cities have it and people use it.
1. "Halal income" like work in some useless software company that perpetuates a Capitalist ecosystem or some finance company related to the stock market ? What else ?
Doesn't matter if its a software company or any else, Its halal income and that's all that matters to me.
2. Why is your father-in-law's relative a millionaire and you not ? How can he have access to many goods and services and you not ? Do you not find a disparity ?
My Father in law's Father, he live in California and owns 3 houses, I am not sure where he get his wealth from but either it was that he bought some Gold mine in Sweden long time ago, or he owns Garages and shit ton of machinery which he later sells. As for disparity, they are living here for Generations, and I just got here :D
3. There are many homeless in Pakistan too. Would you dismiss them too as drug addicts and criminals ? Quite a few American farmers have suicided because of socio-economic troubles. Would you also dismiss them similarly.
Well Pakistan situation is different but yes drug and criminal issue exists there too, also Pakistan is third world country with huge corruption problem, USA is different.
4. As for your comfortable house ( an apartment, not a proper house with a garden ) and your millionaire relative's mansion, why should you have it and others not ? For you to know, when Gaddafi became the de facto leader of Libya in 1969 he vowed that his own parents will live in a tent until all Libyans are no more homeless or no more living in tin huts. But your American presidents live in mansions and many of their citizens live on the footpath in the sun or within plastic huts.
Well Wealth equality is a problem, but If it was up to me I would suggest implementing a system like Zakat on Americans which would not create the huge wealth gap but because I am not a American citizen, I don't have right to say what is right and what is wrong for America and Americans, I am a immigrant just trying to survive in this new country.
1. What is a "decent school" and why is it not available to most people ?
Public schools are there, no fee and free but you have pay for food/book, some even give that for free but I never really dig deep or research on American schooling System. Plus I've no kids nor any plans to have them in near future, so...
2. Why is education not free in USA ?
@Hamartia Antidote @F-22Raptor @gambit @KAL-EL they are all Americans and can help you better.
4. If your housing was free ( provided by the governing system ), basic food was free, electricity and water were free, healthcare was free, education was free, bus service was free, telecommunication was free, legal service was free and so on for all basic human rights then why would someone need to slog every month in unnecessary, unscientific and non-contributory jobs to "pay bills" ? There won't be most bills existing then. Did you not read Gaddafi's essay ?
Well, TBH getting free stuff is nothing but a fantasy specially in today's world, yes everyone wants free stuff but is it realistic ? That's a whole different topic.


In last, all I will say is that if you have questions regarding American governing system, you need to find someone who lives here long and understand every details of it, I am not fit for that deep debate cause I came here just a year ago, and so far I am trying to get settle, teach my Gori wife how to make Chai, Chicken Biryani and Karai , she loves pulao and Bheja (Brain) and here I am starving for Gol gappay, Haleem, Nihari and Paya, I have so much going around in my life but as I always say, America is a great country, with amazing people, yes their Govt decisions/policies is what I disagree with, and America is not perfect but then no country on earth is.
 

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