SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

[ziaulislam]

Could these j/31 would be able to compete with rafael fighters which India is going to induct?
My answer is no. Buts comments are requested

If j31 is truly suppose to be a fifth gen.ac than asking this question is foolish

 

[seesonic]

Assistance doesn't mean covering the whole scenario, it could be a guidence in a specialised area which you could more refinements to offer. I read in some articals that The air intake of J-10A was adjustable for certain angle for proper Airflow to engine which caused some problems in maintenance. Pak engineers helped design it's new DSI intake for a uniform Airflow, that's assistance. It doesn't mean they designed the whole J-10b model.


Engine availability by Russians. Due to Indian pressure. But in case of Rd-93 they had an excuse as Indians were using American engine for Tejas

"Guidance" you say when Pakistan has zero experience in developing a modern day aircraft on your own

Dont make our chinese audience here laugh, they have enough laughter over at the Indians already

 

[salman-1]

"Guidance" you say when Pakistan has zero experience in developing a modern day aircraft on your own

Dont make our chinese audience here laugh, they have enough laughter over at the Indians already

Don't be so over confident with your acheivements, all you have today in your inventory is based on foreign help and assistance of friends. Russians mainly, pioneers are the super powers. If PAF gave some assistance in improving something it's not to be shy and laugh about. Respect all those who work with you.

 

[MastanKhan]

"Guidance" you say when Pakistan has zero experience in developing a modern day aircraft on your own

Dont make our chinese audience here laugh, they have enough laughter over at the Indians already

Hi,

You can laugh as much as you want to---but Paf had much more exposure to and workings of high tech aircraft of the western world than china had in the early part of the 21st century---.

Of those aircraft there is the F16---Mirage 2000---F18---Grippen---F15---Rafale---.

So---please---don't laugh too hard---.

 

[seesonic]

Don't be so over confident with your acheivements, all you have today in your inventory is based on foreign help and assistance of friends. Russians mainly, pioneers are the super powers. If PAF gave some assistance in improving something it's not to be shy and laugh about. Respect all those who work with you.

Its doesnt matter my friend, i mean if you are out to troll or you are having some false sense of pride from the success of JF17 at least practice some common sense in doing so.

Chinese engineers have sort assistance from Amercians, Russian and Ukraine. Thus they are able to achieve what they are, today.

Seriously, our chinese audience must be bursting into laughter if this ever got translated into mandarin. Its a 5th generation plane for fug sake. The amount of trumpet blowing is comparable to the Indians claiming that LCA is the best in the entire universe.

Hi,

You can laugh as much as you want to---but Paf had much more exposure to and workings of high tech aircraft of the western world than china had in the early part of the 21st century---.

Of those aircraft there is the F16---Mirage 2000---F18---Grippen---F15---Rafale---.

So---please---don't laugh too hard---.

Having a glorify assembly plant is nothing.

Having a know how and know why is the key.

Your mentality is no different from the Indians thinking that they can build whatever they want as long as they import the entire assembly line be it from the russians, french, amercians.

Please dont ever let the chinese know i bet they will be laughing their @ss off.

 

[salman-1]

Plz go ahead and write in your mandarin to some professional who has some credible knowledge and see how he laughs at your mental abilities.

 

[el nino]

If j31 is truly suppose to be a fifth gen.ac than asking this question is foolish

Ok
J31 will be unknown in cockpit technology
By bet the Chinease radars ew suites and weapons are inferior to the west options

 

[MastanKhan]

Its doesnt matter my friend, i mean if you are out to troll or you are having some false sense of pride from the success of JF17 at least practice some common sense in doing so.

Chinese engineers have sort assistance from Amercians, Russian and Ukraine. Thus they are able to achieve what they are, today.

Seriously, our chinese audience must be bursting into laughter if this ever got translated into mandarin. Its a 5th generation plane for fug sake. The amount of trumpet blowing is comparable to the Indians claiming that LCA is the best in the entire universe.



Having a glorify assembly plant is nothing.

Having a know how and know why is the key.

Your mentality is no different from the Indians thinking that they can build whatever they want as long as they import the entire assembly line be it from the russians, french, amercians.

Please dont ever let the chinese know i bet they will be laughing their @ss off.

Hi,

Write with reason and you will stay on this board---sarcasm will get you a one way ticket out of this board---.

We don't need to bring an entire assembly line---.

If this is the range of your observations and information is---yu are a worthless addition to the board---.

Enjoy your stay here for the next few days till you guide yourself out of the exit door.

Thanks for coming.

 

[seesonic]

and what do you know?

What i do know when i see a trumpet blower. Or a shameless liar for this instance.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

What i do know when i see a trumpet blower. Or a shameless liar for this instance.

Go save ur country from imminent destruction, hyperinflation and famine first.

BTW zimbabwe air force also uses Pakistani made K-8 jets.

 

[Khadim e Darul Ehsaan]

Thats hardly the point, if you have something to back his claim then do if not i dont see a point in you people barking like a retarded animal.

Although its my first comment on this forum but i m a regular viewer of this forum bcz i found it very infornative.I have never seen such a bad language "barking like a retarted animal " what does it shows ?
Is there any senior who can stop this man ?

 

[HRK]

Go save ur country from imminent destruction, hyperinflation and famine first.

BTW zimbabwe air force also uses Pakistani made K-8 jets.

do you really think he is from Zimbabwe ...??
He is an INDIAN who is ashamed to display the flag of his country

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Mods someone take care of this guy he is constantly derailing a thread. @waz @Horus @Oscar

Thats hardly the point, if you have something to back his claim then do if not i dont see a point in you people barking like a retarded animal.

do you really think he is from Zimbabwe ...??
He is an INDIAN who is ashamed to display the flag of his country

I know but just trying to contest with the context he is presenting.

 

[kurutoga]

It is hard to believe Turkey can design a new stealth fighter jet from where they are today. But I guess good luck! Based on the HQ9 experience I don't think a China/Turkey joint project is remotely possible any more, maybe never.

PLAAF is not obligated to use FC31. PLAN may talk them into a carrier version. Neither is concrete.

There is no loss for Shenyang to design the FC-31 prototype. The amount of money is investment to keep the design team employed and gain more experience. Even if it is not sold to anyone. For a country like China there were so many project never entered production. Certainly not something that is worrisome.

Chinese defense budget will exceed $200b/year soon. As more countries seek alignment with China, buying stealth fighter from China is certainly a big plus for both sides. If FC-31 is not working out, there will be the next generation. What about weapons, AMRAAM, radar systems... China is going to overwhelm competitors in all aspects.

 

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Since this thing has a bomb bay , will it be able to carry any ACM ? Will it be able to carry on any nuclear role ?